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[Shechinah]

(to Winged Silver) They definitely should be wary of how they word certain things; if, by different endings, they mean different ending sliders, then they should be cautious about wording it in a way that could give the impression they are talking about how differently the ending can play out.

[GithCheater]

Dragon Age: Inqusition certainly does not have a rich or "dark" story. There is no debate on that.

A hater presenting opinion as fact ... and shutting the door on debate.  Why am I not surprised? 

[KBomb]

Comparing Witcher and Dragon Age is wrong they are different styles of games. Witcher is closer to Mass Effect if you want to compare games. Witcher has a single protagonist which you have no control over how they look or what their back story is. You compare it to a game where you chose race, class, sex and back ground that is wrong.
Witcher is a beautiful game with a rich and dark. Dragon Age is a beautiful game with a rich and dark story. Why would i want them to be the same. Can they learn from each other yes (for those witcher fans who mock that they would learn anything from Dragon Age, Witcher 3 now gives you a choice of 2 protagionist)

Celebrate their diversity, Diversity is good.

As someone else said, there isn't two protagonists. Ciri will be playable for certain missions. It was compared as being like Ellie in The Last of Us.

As for the other-- no one is saying Dragon Age needs to be a Witcher clone. There is absolutely nothing wrong with seeing a feature that is impressive or practical and suggesting that maybe other developers take note. There is nothing wrong with comparing game features either, especially when they are similar. People just get twisted about it when it's the Witcher series.

It's kind of amusing, tbh. I remember the threads and discussions about Dragon Age's CC and people suggesting that Bioware take a page from Saint's Row, Dragon's Dogma, etc. I have also seen threads where there has been discussion about Bioware consider missions like >insert game< and various other features. If you go back and read those threads, you won't see people getting angry. You won't see people saying, "Saint's Row is nothing like Bioware! Keep them separate!"

Mention The Witcher series, though and it's a whole 'nother story.

[Esmerella]

No and no and no. You will NOT "play" as Ciri. It will be same as you can play Dandelion in wicher 2 for like 5 min. You play as Geralt only and can take control of Ciri for maybe one quest at most. Whats wrong with journalists, They see rock through a window and write giant meteor fly to earth.

Really thats a shame I haven't followed Witcher 3 as I wasn't planning on playing it.  Now that is even less likely I do like choices.  It does look pretty though.

[GithCheater]

 

You still have the chance to shape Geralt into his own personality.

 

Really?  Not in my opinion.  More like "50 shades of dull dishwater"

 

The Witcher stories were decent, but awkward combat and the repetitive "You saved me please boink me" pseudo-romances got to be wearisome.

[Dutch]

Really? Not in my opinion. More like "50 shades of dull dishwater"

The Witcher stories were decent, but awkward combat and the repetitive "You saved me please boink me" pseudo-romances got to be wearisome.

You don't have to boink anyone in that game. And boinking is more awkward and silly in DA comparatively speaking.

[duckley]

I love the Witcher series and cant wait for the Wild Hunt. There are usually a number of fetch quests in the Witcher series as well. This qualifies as more of a side quest - to me so not sure you can fairly compare a side quest to a fetch quest.

 

Fetch quests for me - are put the flowers on the grave or find my fathers sword. A side quest is more related to the story, often occurs one the way to doing something else, can have ramifications to outcome. A side quest in Inquisition to me was, for example, the Samson thing.

 

 

As  much as I adore the Witcher - Dragon Age is still my first love!

[KBomb]

Really? Not in my opinion. More like "50 shades of dull dishwater"

The Witcher stories were decent, but awkward combat and the repetitive "You saved me please boink me" pseudo-romances got to be wearisome.

In one playthrough I played him pretty ruthless and in another, he was faithful to Triss and a much nicer guy. The two Geralt's were quite different. YMMV, I guess. It has been pointed out by CDPR that shaping Geralt is going to be much deeper this go round.

You don't have to sleep with anyone. Personally, I found Bioware's dry-humping in underwear a lot more wearisome. I was glad to see them change it up for DAI. Either way, to each their own.

[GithCheater]

You don't have to boink anyone in that game. And boinking is more awkward and silly in DA comparatively speaking.

 

But the objectified damsels are always willing and eager ... just like real life.

[9TailsFox]

But the objectified damsels are always willing and eager ... just like real life.

Good game is not real life.

[KBomb]

But the objectified damsels are always willing and eager ... just like real life.

Witchers are naturally alluring.

Also, let's not get into that "objectified" nonsense. Good grief.

[9TailsFox]

I think Bioware should continue with their own vision of Dragon Age. No "be more like Skyrim", or "be more like Witcher." Believe it or not there are people who love Dragon Age: Inquisition (you generally can't tell on this forum because it seems to be an area for complaints). While I would like some more fleshed out side quests, I want them to remain in the Dragon Age style. I really enjoyed Jaws of Hakkon. The quests were a bit more interesting to me than some of the main quest side quests. Regardless I like the direction DAI's storytelling is going and I'd like them to remain true to their vision and identity rather than copy other games. I personally find Witcher dull (don't shoot me. I just could never get into it). The lore was kind of boring and I found Geralt to be a sort of puerile, like every 12 year old boy's dream macho man. Maybe his character will have matured in the newest game due to his age since he's older, but I'm not invested enough at this point to really get interested. :/

But this biggest DA problem, DA don't have vision. DA:O was great and they changed everything DA2 and DA:I just experiments. 3 games and Bioware don't even know how elf's should look.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

You don't have to boink anyone in that game. And boinking is more awkward and silly in DA comparatively speaking.

The Witcher 3 is said to literally start with a sex scene, so yes you do. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

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Aren't the Mass Effect series classified as action shooters with strong story elements?

They are classified as Action Role-Playing Games. 

[GithCheater]

Witchers are naturally alluring.

Also, let's not get into that "objectified" nonsense. Good grief.

OK.  I won't mention the misogyny or the homophobia in Witcher.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

OK.  I won't mention the misogyny or the homophobia in Witcher.

CDRP is already doing a great job mentioning it themselves, like sounding excited that the game has such things in it. "Even racism!"

[Naphtali]

OK.  I won't mention the misogyny or the homophobia in Witcher.

Its part of the universe, so thankfully people like yourself in your permissiveness cant corrupt every form of art in a backwards crusade

[GithCheater]

I have no objections to homophobia or misogyny being in a game.  Advocating them is another matter.

[Terodil]

That's just wrong. ME1 only had combat skills aside from P/R. Levelling your combat skills sometimes had noncombat effects but as I recall that only applied to electronics and opening locks. DAI with the three dialogue branches has as much no combat skills as ME. Not to mention there are no stats in ME. Even the fact of having something like Attack% or Guard on Hit makes DAi more of an RPG than ME1.

This is just wrong.

Firstly, you say yourself: 'aside from P/R'. Well, surprise #1, if you take the one non-combat skill out of your consideration, of course there are no non-combat skills left. Surprise #2: DA:I has no non-combat skill to begin with, so you can save yourself the trouble of somehow doctoring it out of the discussion.

Secondly, the three conversation branches in DA:I are mostly "Yes.", "Tell me more." and "No." Numbers is not everything you know, the content (= quality) counts too. In ME you at least had something like personality (mirrored in a morality system that you may like or not like) in those three convo choices, DA:I has no personality. Your inquisitor doesn't change, the voice doesn't change, whatever you may have done in the past to earn a personality, all conversational options are open to you, there is simply no memory of what or who the inquisitor may be.

Finally, just humour me and explain how the existence of a proc (you mentioned guard on hit) is an important element to a rich roleplaying experience.

[Dutch]

OK. I won't mention the misogyny or the homophobia in Witcher.

It is representative of how the witcher world is. Doesn't mean they're intentionally homophobic or misogynist. You SJWs are really funny, the world of dragon age is not as immersive or real as the witcher and I like DA more than witcher. Dragon age is liberal and inclusive and doesn't want to represent the real issues of anything. They play it safe.

[Shechinah]

This is starting to go down insult lane, let's not go down that lane; it's not a very fun lane, it ends in a dead end with a mod message and a locked car.

[duckley]

As an older woman  who has played both games  I am not sure I see the homophobia or the misogyny.  The first game had those silly "sex" cards, but I don't see the Witcher as one who hates  women or objectifies them... maybe I am wrong...

[Dutch]

I have no objections to homophobia or misogyny being in a game. Advocating them is another matter.

That doesn't make any sense.

[Call Me Jord]