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Interest plays a large factor too. Space gives up wonder and joy, where as cancer is just sad and depressing. Same goes with underwater exploration. We know more about space than we do about the ocean.

 

The NIH gets a bigger slice of the budget than NASA. For 2015 the NIH received a budget of a little over $29 billion. NASA's budget was in the neighborhood of $18 billion.


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How is it we can do this but we haven't cured cancer?

Cancer isn't something you just "cure".

 

Unless you find a way to totally stop aging, anyhow, but even that probably wouldn't actually put a stop to cancer.


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It isn't warp drive.

 

It's not confirmed.

 

I call bull.



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The tweeters have picked up on this(finally)

 

https://twitter.com/...typd&q=EM Drive



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Don't you mean ludicrous speed?  :whistle:

 



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Don't you mean ludicrous speed?  :whistle:

 

 



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while were at it, broad question. Do you believe in aliens, and have we established contact with them already?

 

Well I for one do believe.

 

But the problem is distance. The universe is huge and while they may well be 1000's of civilizations getting to them might be a problem till we can conquer the issues with time and distance.



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You know what is odd about the Enterprise it's use of round computer screens.  It just makes it look very dated and old even though the actual layout of the bridge is nice.



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Moving away from the spacetime distortion, lets assume for a bit that alien life does exist, and that alien life has reached a point in its development that it is aware of life elsewhere, including our own. Lets assume its like Mass Effect's races that work together and make notes of other races that can become advanced species.

 

Humanity in its current form is self-destructive, is destroying its own planet due to its self-destruction+lack of understanding, and has a natural penchant to default to violence because early in its evolution, h-sapiens(lol word is blocked) decided violence would be the vehicle for its progress/advancement/improvements.

 

Would this hypothetical advanced group of aliens want humanity ascended to their level? Would it not be too much of a risk? What would the response be? Wait for us to wipe ourselves out? Wait and see if we can get past it and advance peacefully? Would violence even be a deterrent? Etc etc etc, tons of questions assuming aliens(as we think of them) exist and are capable of looking down on us.

 

Lets worry about spacetime distortion first tho. :P



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Moving away from the spacetime distortion, lets assume for a bit that alien life does exist, and that alien life has reached a point in its development that it is aware of life elsewhere, including our own. Lets assume its like Mass Effect's races that work together and make notes of other races that can become advanced species.

 

Humanity in its current form is self-destructive, is destroying its own planet due to its self-destruction+lack of understanding, and has a natural penchant to default to violence because early in its evolution, h-sapiens(lol word is blocked) decided violence would be the vehicle for its progress/advancement/improvements.

 

Would this hypothetical advanced group of aliens want humanity ascended to their level? Would it not be too much of a risk? What would the response be? Wait for us to wipe ourselves out? Wait and see if we can get past it and advance peacefully? Would violence even be a deterrent? Etc etc etc, tons of questions assuming aliens(as we think of them) exist and are capable of looking down on us.

 

Lets worry about spacetime distortion first tho. :P

 

 

I don't think they would want us in our current state to advance to their level of technology or society.

 

It would be pretty much like "The Day The Earth Stood Still"  not the campy remake but the original where Klaatu said to the Earthlings that they will be watching us. They will let us have our wars on our own planet but if we take that sh*t out into space they will smite us. That is a reasonable outcome. I would agree with them too.



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What instead of finding resource rich planets our top priority will be to look for sexy aliens?


People will be people. :P



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I don't think they would want us in our current state to advance to their level of technology or society.

 

It would be pretty much like "The Day The Earth Stood Still"  not the campy remake but the original where Klaatu said to the Earthlings that they will be watching us. They will let us have our wars on our own planet but if we take that sh*t out into space they will smite us. That is a reasonable outcome. I would agree with them too.

If I were an alien race with such concerns I'd wipe them out before they could destroy such a life suitable planet and ruin the chances of future sentient races.

 

But if it were me we haven't even wasted 1 chance yet, Chernobyl was a accident. A preventable one, but none the less.



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If I were an alien race with such concerns I'd wipe them out before they could destroy such a life suitable planet and ruin the chances of future sentient races.

 

But if it were me we haven't even wasted 1 chance yet, Chernobyl was a accident. A preventable one, but none the less.

 

Yes but the aliens in DTEST  were not too worried about disasters and wars on our own planet. They just did not want us taking our waring ways into space.   I agree with them.



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Actually thinking of our planet I am surprised we have not tried to build underwater habitats?

 

Why is it we can travel into space but not live on or in the oceans?



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Actually thinking of our planet I am surprised we have not tried to build underwater habitats?

 

Why is it we can travel into space but not live on or in the oceans?

We can,

The technology is more than available. It's just no one wants to fund making one.



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Contrary to what would seem logical, it actually is easier to build a habitat in space than it is on the bottom of the ocean.

 

Seafloors are not good foundations, things sink. Fast. and things drop down from above.

 

You could get buried in a manner of months if nobody goes out and cleans it off and does something about the sinking.



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Contrary to what would seem logical, it actually is easier to build a habitat in space than it is on the bottom of the ocean.

 

Seafloors are not good foundations, things sink. Fast. and things drop down from above.

 

You could get buried in a manner of months if nobody goes out and cleans it off and does something about the sinking.

 

Between space and the seafloor, I'd take space.


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Humanity in its current form is self-destructive, is destroying its own planet due to its self-destruction+lack of understanding, and has a natural penchant to default to violence because early in its evolution, h-sapiens(lol word is blocked) decided violence would be the vehicle for its progress/advancement/improvements.

 

Any other sentient life would be the same way, or at least similar enough to us. Assuming these hypothetical aliens aren't one massive hive mind and are made up of individuals, then it's almost certain that their development will be shaped by conflict and violence. Almost certainly not in the same capacity as humans, but the principle will be he same. If you take more than one group of people and put them in the same spot, conflict WILL begin to brew, it's statistically guaranteed to happen eventually. 

 

It's not like any aliens we meet will be hyper-enlightened omniscient gods who have discovered a way to create matter-less food and resources out of thin air and space magic. There are only so many ways a society can advance and remain viable (in the sense that it will last and not collapse on itself). It's not like humanity is some lowly caveman compared to the poncy aristocratic "proper" citizens, like our first idea would be to nuke ourselves into oblivion if given the chance.

 

And if there ARE intelligent aliens out there, they are almost certainly too far out for us to reach. Given the sheer size of the universe (just the parts that we can see and document, let alone everything else), there are practically an infinite number of planets. One would be foolish to not believe in the possibility of other intelligent life.


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Between space and the seafloor, I'd take space.

 

I don't know, undersea base would be pretty cool. A lot more life and colour underwater and you could feed pesky secret agents to your pet giant squid.



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Any other sentient life would be the same way, or at least similar enough to us. Assuming these hypothetical aliens aren't one massive hive mind and are made up of individuals, then it's almost certain that their development will be shaped by conflict and violence. Almost certainly not in the same capacity as humans, but the principle will be he same. If you take more than one group of people and put them in the same spot, conflict WILL begin to brew, it's statistically guaranteed to happen eventually.

 

Thats a human's perspective, colored by the fact that we don't know what life would be like for our race without violence underlying progress for it.

 

I don't think we can make any claims as to what alien life would be like. We can guess, but that is stuck completely within what our minds can fathom. Given we just accomplished something that falls outside of our current understanding, it is possible that alien life will also fall outside of our fathomable ideas/hypothesis.

 

There very well could be alien races out there who don't have violence as the foundation to their success.



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Contrary to what would seem logical, it actually is easier to build a habitat in space than it is on the bottom of the ocean.

 

Seafloors are not good foundations, things sink. Fast. and things drop down from above.

 

You could get buried in a manner of months if nobody goes out and cleans it off and does something about the sinking.

 

Not to mention it's cold, often ranging from 0 Celsius to around 3 Celsius (32 to 37 Fahrenheit) at the lowest depths, and it never warms up with the changing of seasons.

 

Colonies on the sea floor, or something similar, simply aren't feasible. On top of the sinking and being buried like you mentioned, it would be nearly impossible to find a way to power a deep ocean base or colony to keep it heated. you can't just throw some batteries 36,000 feet underwater and expect them to function properly.


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I don't know, undersea base would be pretty cool. A lot more life and colour underwater and you could feed pesky secret agents to your pet giant squid.

 

I'm just more confident we'd get life out in space to work than in our seas.



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Thats a human's perspective, colored by the fact that we don't know what life would be like for our race without violence underlying progress for it.

 

I don't think we can make any claims as to what alien life would be like. We can guess, but that is stuck completely within what our minds can fathom. Given we just accomplished something that falls outside of our current understanding, it is possible that alien life will also fall outside of our fathomable ideas/hypothesis.

 

There very well could be alien races out there who don't have violence as the foundation to their success.

 

Biology isn't particularly innovative. Not in nature and without intervention by people, anyway. Not to mention that life is incredibly fragile in the cosmos and can be wiped out in (what would amount to) the blink of an eye of the universe. No matter how different any aliens are from us, there are some things they simply cannot ignore, like temperature or atmosphere. For example, any sentient and intelligent life would need to be able to maintain a temperature (whether through being cold/warm-blooded like on Earth or through some other function). If a species survives long enough to make it to the tribal stage and begin living as a community, they'll need to carve out space on their planet to live on (and if literally every planet that we know of is any example, no planet is uniform in its environs, different regions have different climates). That means that space will be limited, which means that resources and access to resources will be limited. In nature (whether sentient or purely animalistic), the shortage of resources drives conflict, as seen in 99.99999% of animal and plant life on Earth.


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Biology isn't particularly innovative. Not in nature and without intervention by people, anyway. Not to mention that life is incredibly fragile in the cosmos and can be wiped out in (what would amount to) the blink of an eye of the universe. No matter how different any aliens are from us, there are some things they simply cannot ignore, like temperature or atmosphere. For example, any sentient and intelligent life would need to be able to maintain a temperature (whether through being cold/warm-blooded like on Earth or through some other function). If a species survives long enough to make it to the tribal stage and begin living as a community, they'll need to carve out space on their planet to live on (and if literally every planet that we know of is any example, no planet is uniform in its environs, different regions have different climates). That means that space will be limited, which means that resources and access to resources will be limited. In nature (whether sentient or purely animalistic), the shortage of resources drives conflict, as seen in 99.99999% of animal and plant life on Earth.

 

But technically, none of that is objectively true. "Temperature" can be something that is completely foreign to an alien race for whatever reason. A race potentially doesn't have to follow anything that resembles what we did and what we think is necessary.

 

I believe an alien race can learn about us and say, "The *expletive* is GRAVITY!? LOL". Only expressed better. :P

 

"Life" doesn't have to apply to the laws of the universe that humanity has used to try and understand its existence within its own comprehension.

 

And thats kind of wild. We know nothing, we are ALL Jon Snow.