I don't know, undersea base would be pretty cool. A lot more life and colour underwater and you could feed pesky secret agents to your pet giant squid.
There wouldn't be any color at all underwater, seeing that light doesn't penetrate very far into the ocean (only about 200 meters in most bodies of water).
Gonna link this here since tons of folks are looking at it according to social media
http://www.reddit.co...them_about_the/
But technically, none of that is objectively true. "Temperature" can be something that is completely foreign to an alien race for whatever reason. A race potentially doesn't have to follow anything that resembles what we did and what we think is necessary.
"Temperature" is just another way to describe thermal energy and the transmission of that energy via radiation, convection, and conduction, which exist literally everywhere in the universe. These aliens can be as "different" as they want, but no living creature that isn't literally a god can ignore energy and matter.
I believe an alien race can learn about us and say, "The *expletive* is GRAVITY!? LOL". Only expressed better.
Maybe if these aliens live in the vacuum of space, sure. Except then they'd have to deal with absolute-zero temperatures and cosmic radiation (if there are any stars nearby). Everything in the universe made of matter (i.e. literally everything in existence with a physical form) has mass, which means it has a gravitational field and pull, however weak. So while they might literally be able to say "lol wut's gravity?" they wouldn't be able to ignore it's effect on them (unless they are ghosts).
"Life" doesn't have to apply to the laws of the universe that humanity has used to try and understand its existence within its own comprehension.
There are a finite number of ways life can develop (though how high the number is is what's unknown) in the universe without drifting off into magical fantasy lala land like you're beginning to do.
And thats kind of wild. We know nothing, we are ALL Jon Snow.
Yes, we do. We don't know every little thing about the universe, but by no means is humanity know nothing. To say such a thing is a gross disservice to anyone who has ever worked in any field of physical science.
No, we really don't. We don't know every little thing about the universe, but by no means is humanity know nothing. To say such a thing is a gross disservice to anyone who has ever worked in any field of physical science.
I don't think so. Science in my mind is less about knowing and more about understanding/trying to understand things. If science was about knowing things, we'd have absolute truths. Thing is, we don't;everything we "know" has the potential to be "wrong" and affected by information gathered later. Actually scratch what I just said;if knowledge is the collection of things we perceive to understand then we absolutely have knowledge, but if knowledge is absolute facts of life/existence/whatever, we literally have none of it. We can't have absolute truth until every single data point that ever is, was, and could be is collected.
Science is like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, sciency wiency, schtuff. It IS magical fantasy lala land, thats what makes it cool. Thats how we managed to have this EM Drive do something it theoretically shouldn't have been able to do. It did something magical. And now using science we're gonna try to make sense out of it so we can understand it.
/EYE IZ NEEERD
We don't know how a bicycle works.
There's that.
We don't know how a bicycle works.
There's that.
By the way Grav,
http://www.ibtimes.c...tch-out-1499141
EmDrive could solve the energy crisis and climate change
If it was cheap to launch satellites into space, we could harness solar power for Earth and even use satellites as shields from the sun against global warming.
"We will go to Mars, but the most important thing is what EmDrive will do for the rest of the world. It will be solar power stations, city-to-city long-haul flights using hydrogen. It's green and convenient and will change our world in the next few decades," he said.
"We've got solutions to the global energy crisis, climate change and green technology all thrown into one. Think what orbital sunshades, easily put into place and controlled, will do for climate change. Think about a city sweltering in the hot sun, and think about a council buying an orbital sunshade and launching it into orbit, all completely controllable and easy to put up." Shawyer says he has written a new paper about developers with second-generation EmDrive that is in the process of being peer reviewed but should make an appearance sometime in 2015.
"You don't need to have highly stressed, hi-tech vehicles that the aerospace industry uses right now, which are costly, dangerous and bad for the environment," he said.
"There are people who are going to profit from it while the West gently dies in the sunset. It's gonna happen and the world will be a better place for it."
"Its getting hot in herre, so take off all your clothes"
"EM Drive"
"*EXPLETIVE*!"
EmDrive could solve the energy crisis and climate change
If it was cheap to launch satellites into space, we could harness solar power for Earth and even use satellites as shields from the sun against global warming.
"We will go to Mars, but the most important thing is what EmDrive will do for the rest of the world. It will be solar power stations, city-to-city long-haul flights using hydrogen. It's green and convenient and will change our world in the next few decades," he said.
"We've got solutions to the global energy crisis, climate change and green technology all thrown into one. Think what orbital sunshades, easily put into place and controlled, will do for climate change. Think about a city sweltering in the hot sun, and think about a council buying an orbital sunshade and launching it into orbit, all completely controllable and easy to put up." Shawyer says he has written a new paper about developers with second-generation EmDrive that is in the process of being peer reviewed but should make an appearance sometime in 2015.
"You don't need to have highly stressed, hi-tech vehicles that the aerospace industry uses right now, which are costly, dangerous and bad for the environment," he said.
"There are people who are going to profit from it while the West gently dies in the sunset. It's gonna happen and the world will be a better place for it."
Huh, some of these are similar to a few I scratched down.
Helios shells are different, didn't think of that.
Huh, some of these are similar to a few I scratched down.
Helios shells are different, didn't think of that.
That last line tho
Does it mean the Western Hemisphere?
Silly.
Physics denied me before, I might be right!
My Maglev generator could work!
Does it mean the Western Hemisphere?
Silly.
Physics denied me before, I might be right!
My Maglev generator could work!
I BELIEVE IN YOU
Not to mention it's cold, often ranging from 0 Celsius to around 3 Celsius (32 to 37 Fahrenheit) at the lowest depths, and it never warms up with the changing of seasons.
Colonies on the sea floor, or something similar, simply aren't feasible. On top of the sinking and being buried like you mentioned, it would be nearly impossible to find a way to power a deep ocean base or colony to keep it heated. you can't just throw some batteries 36,000 feet underwater and expect them to function properly.
Well what about using the ocean itself as power. a few turbines spinning by ocean currents to create power. That could power your heating.
We don't know how a bicycle works.
There's that.
Says who?
Says who?
See, you'd think a bicycle could stay upright because of forward momentum and the balance of the rider in combination with the gyroscopic effect of the wheels.
But it doesn't.
And we can't figure it out.
(I removed the article link for lack of sources)
I don't after I lost brakes going downhill into a highway.
There was no other way out except purposefully running into a fallen tree. According to witnesses, I flipped twice, and the bike three before the wheel hit the back of my head.
I don't after I lost brakes going downhill into a highway.
There was no other way out except purposefully running into a fallen tree. According to witnesses, I flipped twice, and the bike three before the wheel hit the back of my head.
Ouch!!!
I don't think so. Science in my mind is less about knowing and more about understanding/trying to understand things. If science was about knowing things, we'd have absolute truths. Thing is, we don't;everything we "know" has the potential to be "wrong" and affected by information gathered later. Actually scratch what I just said;if knowledge is the collection of things we perceive to understand then we absolutely have knowledge, but if knowledge is absolute facts of life/existence/whatever, we literally have none of it. We can't have absolute truth until every single data point that ever is, was, and could be is collected.
Science is like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, sciency wiency, schtuff. It IS magical fantasy lala land, thats what makes it cool. Thats how we managed to have this EM Drive do something it theoretically shouldn't have been able to do. It did something magical. And now using science we're gonna try to make sense out of it so we can understand it.
/EYE IZ NEEERD
Words like 'know', 'knowledge', 'truth', 'understand', 'fact', are just fine, as long as one uses them in a context where they still have a meaning. A very common problem with young philosophers is that they, launching out into the extreme, move out of that semantic context and then pompously declare "there is no truth", "science doesn't know anything", bla bla etc. This is commonly exploited by murky powers, wanting to muddy the waters. Don't fall into that trap.
No, science is not a magical fantasy lala land. It's a rather strict discipline, the goal of which is to make, constantly enlarge and refine a sort of *map* of how things relate. Thanks to that map, we are then able to get from A to B in reality. Like when designing and building a working aircraft with performance according to design target. Or design and build a microprocessor. Or go to and land on the Moon.
The *map* is just a map. The symbols and concepts exists only in the map. But the map is often so extraordinarily reliable, that it's more than perfectly appropriate to talk about knowledge and facts. In any sense that those words can have any meaning, it is so.
The fact that the map is continuously updated and filled in with new details, old features modified, has no bearing on that. For the uses where the map, even the old map, is reliable, it is knowledge. It is what *knowledge* means.
There is no difference between how science and other "knowledge" -systems works psychologically or semantically. The difference is in the rather strict discipline that science adheres to, which produces and serves the reliability of the map. Religions, astrology, UFO-logy, New Age etc, are also just maps. They are human fantasies one can have knowledge about, but these systems themselves do not contain any knowledge. Those are fantasy lala-lands, because their systems lack the rules and discipline to discern knowledge from fantasies.
The map will always just be a map. It will never be reality. But this doesn't mean that we don't have or never will have "absolute truth", it only means that "absolute truth" is a poor, semantic concept, that has too powerful associations it doesn't deserve.
I don't after I lost brakes going downhill into a highway.
There was no other way out except purposefully running into a fallen tree. According to witnesses, I flipped twice, and the bike three before the wheel hit the back of my head.
Not to mention it's cold, often ranging from 0 Celsius to around 3 Celsius (32 to 37 Fahrenheit) at the lowest depths, and it never warms up with the changing of seasons.
Colonies on the sea floor, or something similar, simply aren't feasible. On top of the sinking and being buried like you mentioned, it would be nearly impossible to find a way to power a deep ocean base or colony to keep it heated. you can't just throw some batteries 36,000 feet underwater and expect them to function properly.
This also doesn't take in consideration the pressure that would be exerted on any "underwater colony". It's also why humans can't dive below a certain depth.
Hopefully, someone more knowledgeable in physics will elaborate further.
There wouldn't be any color at all underwater, seeing that light doesn't penetrate very far into the ocean (only about 200 meters in most bodies of water).
Underwater is scary.
I don't after I lost brakes going downhill into a highway.
There was no other way out except purposefully running into a fallen tree. According to witnesses, I flipped twice, and the bike three before the wheel hit the back of my head.
See? Bicycles are the worst kind of magic.
I highly doubt aliens will be how we picture them....plus why they view humans as attractive?
I know man I was just joking around 
I'll believe this when multiple news sources confirm it.
This seems too good to be true.
I don't think so. Science in my mind is less about knowing and more about understanding/trying to understand things. If science was about knowing things, we'd have absolute truths.
There are plenty of absolute truths. They're called "laws".
Thing is, we don't;everything we "know" has the potential to be "wrong" and affected by information gathered later. Actually scratch what I just said;if knowledge is the collection of things we perceive to understand then we absolutely have knowledge, but if knowledge is absolute facts of life/existence/whatever, we literally have none of it.
This is the one of the most patronizing things I have ever seen. To say that we "know nothing", again, is a tremendous disservice to anyone who actually practices science.
We can't have absolute truth until every single data point that ever is, was, and could be is collected.
Nobody said anything about "absolute truth" except for you. "Absolute truth" like YOU'RE describing it (i.e. in your arbitrary definition) would require total omniscience to comprehend.
Science is like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, sciency wiency, schtuff. It IS magical fantasy lala land, thats what makes it cool.
No, it's not. The only thing that comes even remotely close is quantum physics, but then you're no longer even in the ballpark of any kind of potential alien life like you were talking about before.
Thats how we managed to have this EM Drive do something it theoretically shouldn't have been able to do. It did something magical. And now using science we're gonna try to make sense out of it so we can understand it.
No, it didn't. The EM drive has been speculated to be a thing ever since (at least) 2001, as per NASA themselves. Only now are they making the thing work. It isn't as if we just discovered some new fundamental truth of the universe. We already have the established principles of how the EM drive works and the forces at play:
Dr. White proposed that the EM Drive’s thrust was due to the Quantum Vacuum (the quantum state with the lowest possible energy) behaving like propellant ions behave in a MagnetoHydroDynamics drive (a method electrifying propellant and then directing it with magnetic fields to push a spacecraft in the opposite direction) for spacecraft propulsion. In Dr. White’s model, the propellant ions of the MagnetoHydroDynamics drive are replaced as the fuel source by the virtual particles of the Quantum Vacuum, eliminating the need to carry propellant.
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