R...RUST? So like, if I go around I need a tetanus shot for each time
I try to sniff theholy soil?you come in contact.
Or is it different kind of rust. Science-cy like.
There are places on Earth where the soil or rock is red or orange as well, due to iron-oxide. Hawaii is famous for it.
Our planet is crazy beautiful in places where humanity hasn't messed with it.
Our planet is crazy beautiful in places where humanity hasn't messed with it.
Yes and what happens to other planets when we find them? We'll mess them up. Yay for us 
There are places on Earth where the soil or rock is red or orange as well, due to iron-oxide. Hawaii is famous for it.
And it's a ****** pain to get out of your clothes/shoes.
Never where anything that isn't colored red in Hawaii if you go hiking.
There are places on Earth where the soil or rock is red or orange as well, due to iron-oxide. Hawaii is famous for it.
And pretty much entire Australia.
But keep in mind that it's colored by iron oxide, it's not all iron oxide. Iron oxides are pretty strong coloring agents.
And regarding Australia, the iron oxide was deposited from a once sea that covered most of Australia a long time ago.
Our planet is crazy beautiful in places where humanity hasn't messed with it.
population control is about the only thing I could think of to maintain a new planet. It's horrible, but we'd just sap the resources like we did here.
population control is about the only thing I could think of to maintain a new planet. It's horrible, but we'd just sap the resources like we did here.
More like efficient urban planning, regulations regarding expansion and ressource exploitation aswell as thorough surveying and proactive landmark and species protection/preservation from the get go.
Population control isn't a thing. If anything we'd have to incentivize people to bong each other some more to get enough people to populate any new planets. Contrary to popular believe, we aren't crowding our current planet at all. Not even remotely!
More like efficient urban planning, regulations regarding expansion and ressource exploitation aswell as thorough surveying and proactive landmark and species protection/preservation from the get go.
Population control isn't a thing. If anything we'd have to incentivize people to bong each other some more to get enough people to populate any new planets. Contrary to popular believe, we aren't crowding our current planet at all. Not even remotely!
If I recall the math that was done, given the current population of humanity, we could give each human being enough space to live and survive within just the U.S. state of Texas and leave the rest of the world uninhabited by our race.
But we won't. 
If I recall the math that was done, given the current population of humanity, we could give each human being enough space to live and survive within just the U.S. state of Texas and leave the rest of the world uninhabited by our race.
But we won't.
you are right on the math part. it is more resource management than population control is what we need. Earth is a robust planet.
I'm rather hesitant to rejoice just yet.
It's looking good. Really promising. But if I got too high on it and it turned out to be wrong the fall would be hard. I don't think I'll really believe it until it's peer reviewed. And even then I'll probably wonder if I'm misremembering some dream I had 
I mean, really. After an eternity of being told FTL is impossible. well...
I imagine NASA will try to keep this pretty quiet until they are 100,000,000,000,000% certain they did what they think they did.
you are right on the math part. it is more resource management than population control is what we need. Earth is a robust planet.
Yeeeeah, but given the choice between consuming less and having less kids you know what people are going to choose. If I recall correctly, Earth can sustain about 2 billion people living like the average American. Which means we have a -5.5 billion deficit.
Yes and what happens to other planets when we find them? We'll mess them up. Yay for us
Eh, would rather live comfortably than in a hovel. It is a worthy sacrifice.
So I haven't read through all the posts, but to me, this is actually a BAD thing. We are terrible at maintaining our environments, and this will only mean we slowly spread and wreck planet after planet like slow acting locusts (Not trying to sound like a hippy or counterculture teen, but its the truth)
So aside from interstellar travel....I don't see any practical use for this. Transmat systems maybe?
Its like hearing "They cured cancer". people are all "breakthrough in medical science yay!" but then I'd be all "Oh joy. So now we can become even more overpopulated and screw ourselves over further. Great."
This comes down to people doing things just because they could, not thinking if they should.
meh, might as well leave it for the next generation. Previous did the same to us. lel
Well, that's your opinion. I disagree, the universe is a dangerous place and there's a multitude of things that could totally **** this world up far more than we ever could. Technology like this would allow us to expand and ensure the survival of our species.So I haven't read through all the posts, but to me, this is actually a BAD thing. We are terrible at maintaining our environments, and this will only mean we slowly spread and wreck planet after planet like slow acting locusts (Not trying to sound like a hippy or counterculture teen, but its the truth)
So aside from interstellar travel....I don't see any practical use for this. Transmat systems maybe?
Its like hearing "They cured cancer". people are all "breakthrough in medical science yay!" but then I'd be all "Oh joy. So now we can become even more overpopulated and screw ourselves over further. Great."
This comes down to people doing things just because they could, not thinking if they should.
So I haven't read through all the posts, but to me, this is actually a BAD thing. We are terrible at maintaining our environments, and this will only mean we slowly spread and wreck planet after planet like slow acting locusts (Not trying to sound like a hippy or counterculture teen, but its the truth)
So aside from interstellar travel....I don't see any practical use for this. Transmat systems maybe?
This comes down to people doing things just because they could, not thinking if they should.
Wrecking the planet is a problem. But I would say that the opportunity to do so primarily comes from lack of knowledge and ignorance. Today we know that the **** is starting to come out of the fan. But if it hadn't been for advanced technology, space technology and science, things done by people because they could, despite all those who said that they should not, we'd be completely blind. Humanity would happily overpopulate, despite diseases, cut down everything, exterminate everything, and grow rice, wheat, corn and potatoes everywhere and cause a total ecological collapse and go extinct as the last living species in an orgy of cannibalism and weird fanatic religions. All without having the slightest clue.
I had an uncle that used to say that, if God had intended us to just farm the land, we'd been given plow-bills for feet instead of a brain.
There is a distinct problem with your reasoning. How are we to know what "we should"? Who went wrong? Was it Erhu who picked up that piece of flint some hundred thousands years ago? Or was it when some plant migrated up on land, some 450 million years ago? Or was it when many single cells stuck together in a sort of colony, some 3 billion years ago? Why "should" we anything at all?
Why not accept that the mission for humanity is to spread life from Earth?
Earth is not going to hang around forever, you know. Global extinction events like collision with a large asteroid or comet, or eruption of a caldera, are not "risks". They are absolute certainties. Only question is when.
Its like hearing "They cured cancer". people are all "breakthrough in medical science yay!" but then I'd be all "Oh joy. So now we can become even more overpopulated and screw ourselves over further. Great."
Having lost three family members to cancer (No, I have not taken offense. Not at all. -Promise! I just want to explain), I do have a slightly different perspective. About a month ago I had half of my lung removed in open thorax surgery, a very uncomfortable experience, even now. (And no, I don't smoke). Now I can only wait and see. If I go ten years without any new tumor recurring, I should be in the clear.
I don't see cancer as the solution to overpopulation. It won't be able to keep up and it won't hit people before they reproduce anyway, so it mainly just reduce the experience, wisdom and knowledge of a population. The only non-disaster solution to overpopulation is developments and - above all else - good schools.
Having lost three family members to cancer (No, I have not taken offense. Not at all. -Promise! I just want to explain), I do have a slightly different perspective. About a month ago I had half of my lung removed in open thorax surgery, a very uncomfortable experience, even now. (And no, I don't smoke). Now I can only wait and see. If I go ten years without any new tumor recurring, I should be in the clear.
I don't see cancer as the solution to overpopulation. It won't be able to keep up and it won't hit people before they reproduce anyway, so it mainly just reduce the experience, wisdom and knowledge of a population. The only non-disaster solution to overpopulation is developments and - above all else - good schools.
We don't need cancer to die. After age 80 and specially 90 your body starts to diminish and decay fast. Then you die soon. Nothing can change it. It's a rarity if a person passes age 100.
Dying at age 30s-60s is considered a misfortune in 21th century and brings much sorrow (and possibly hardship) to the friends, relatives and specially the children and the husband/wife.
And if the age of death becomes lower, people just marry sooner and breed babies sooner, so the population growth is the same. Nothing changes.
Self-guiding bullets have been a thing since the early 60s. Just ask president Kennedy.And now we may have bullets that can lock onto targets and steer themselves
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The guys of Deus Ex : Human Revolution are getting a lot of things right.
you are right on the math part. it is more resource management than population control is what we need. Earth is a robust planet.
I am amused by the fact that people are genuinely surprised we're running out of resources when the top 10% of humanity consumes as much as the other 90% and have been doing so for the last century or so.
We don't need cancer to die. After age 80 and specially 90 your body starts to diminish and decay fast. Then you die soon. Nothing can change it. It's a rarity if a person passes age 100.
Have you never heard of Science?
I am amused by the fact that people are genuinely surprised we're running out of resources when the top 10% of humanity consumes as much as the other 90% and have been doing so for the last century or so.
Have you never heard of Science?
Even if some great medical discovery and innovation happens it will be for 2% of the population.
I am not a scientist, and I fully admit to not reading most of the posts above.
But honestly, good or bad, if it is possible, we have a game changer once it's harnessed.
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