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CONFIRMED : NASA Has Generated a Warp Field


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Even if some great medical discovery and innovation happens it will be for 2% of the population.

Medicine can't cure a pitchfork to the throat. We're long overdue for the next bloody uprising against the bourgeoisie.



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I am not a scientist, and I fully admit to not reading most of the posts above.

But honestly, good or bad, if it is possible, we have a game changer once it's harnessed.


The "if it's possible" is the interesting question. NASA has really worked hard to downplay every step of this, from the light speed anamoly to the actual thrust of the EmDrive itself.

It's even more interesting to me after a couple weeks of trolling the NASA Space Flight boards (where this all came to light) is that the team is working only to replicate and enhance the EmDrive experiments (which are huge in their own respect, allowing for amazing leaps in conventional thruster travel, both terrestrially and in space), but is doing absolutely zero investigation into the effect that light was able to travel faster than it normally should have when beamed through the chamber of the drive.

It seems that since the EmDrive itself is so on the fringe of respected science, they don't want to interject the concept of FTL and risk being laughed off stage, metaphorically speaking. Still, seems odd.

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Medicine can't cure a pitchfork to the throat. We're long overdue for the next bloody uprising against the bourgeoisie.


Yeah... good luck with all that. We bourgeoise laugh at your feeble attempts to organize.
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Yeah... good luck with all that. We bourgeoise laugh at your feeble attempts to organize.


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Yeah... good luck with all that. We bourgeoise laugh at your feeble attempts to organize.

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Sweet. There are only so many countries around to invade each other, so we're going to want to perfect the technology to invade other planets before we run out.



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Yeah... good luck with all that. We bourgeoise laugh at your feeble attempts to organize.


Yeah, it's a lot harder now. They used to be in-bred nobility but now they have Masters degrees. They own more than armies. But we'll get the sheep to move eventually...Did I say too much?

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it's a lot easier to observe the masses with todays surveillance, and keep them uncaring and ignorant with todays digital gossip columns and media puppet shows control ed by private entities like faux news

 

I don't think the masses have ever been so controllable in all the world history before the rise of the internet, radio, T.V and print media. We're living a fantasy world, much like the one seen in the matrix trilogy... conditions are going to have to be quite dreadful before anything like Frances many civil wars repeat themselves.



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Medicine can't cure a pitchfork to the throat. We're long overdue for the next bloody uprising against the bourgeoisie.

 

Which will result in the U.S. (if it occurs here) breaching the constitution by instituting martial law, and sending in the military.



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Which will result in the U.S. (if it occurs here) breaching the constitution by instituting martial law, and sending in the military.

Yeah, that would suck. If it ever came down to it we would be ****ed. I don't care how many guns people have try stopping an Abrams Tank.

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Sweet. There are only so many countries around to invade each other, so we're going to want to perfect the technology to invade other planets before we run out.

 

Well, if we started invading other planets, maybe we could stop invading each other.
 



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Sweet. There are only so many countries around to invade each other, so we're going to want to perfect the technology to invade other planets before we run out.

I'm sure the vast swaths of native rocks will be very upset about it.



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Well, if we started invading other planets, maybe we could stop invading each other.
 

The countries that have access to space technology (aside from Russia). Don't go about invading each other (or at least havent since the end of the cold war)



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The countries that have access to space technology (aside from Russia). Don't go about invading each other (or at least havent since the end of the cold war)


I dunno, recently the US announced that they'd be stationing more marines and B1 Bombers in Australia. The Australian government said "What now?" and there were some fast retractions. I half expected the US to say - "We're not asking, just let it happen." :P
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I dunno, recently the US announced that they'd be stationing more marines and B1 Bombers in Australia. The Australian government said "What now?" and there were some fast retractions. I half expected the US to say - "We're not asking, just let it happen." :P

That's basically it.

 

Howcome the USA can just bully a country like that?



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That's basically it.

 

Howcome the USA can just bully a country like that?

 

To take over your vegemite and ebony mines?



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To take over your vegemite and ebony mines?

Well thank you for the funny answer but I was being serious.

 

Why do we need B1 Bombers stationed here?



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Because They need to show everyone how big they are.

that and they are out of B2s

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it's a lot easier to observe the masses with todays surveillance, and keep them uncaring and ignorant with todays digital gossip columns and media puppet shows control ed by private entities like faux news

 

I don't think the masses have ever been so controllable in all the world history before the rise of the internet, radio, T.V and print media. We're living a fantasy world, much like the one seen in the matrix trilogy... conditions are going to have to be quite dreadful before anything like Frances many civil wars repeat themselves.

 

I'm doubting your take on this.

The truth is probably more that the masses are more content, and/or realize that they have a lot too lose and don't actually see anything to gain. The very opposite situation to what causes revolutions.

And, on the contrary, I suspect that the Western culture masses are potentially more unruly than ever before in history.

 

The only thing that really worries me on the media side, is that people often seem very ready to embrace the disinformation as 'the truth', and the truth as disinformation. The way they choose what to believe seem to be influenced by two factors. What they want to believe. And Goebbel's famous 'bigger lie'; the more sensational and extreme the lie is, the more it will ingrain itself in people's minds.

 

And that's pretty surprising, because it's typically not consistent with the historical performance of the various sources. Not the real life, real world history.

It's only consistent with the fiction in movies, TV series and novels. So the question must indeed be: Are people living in the fictional world created by Hollywood writers?



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Medicine can't cure a pitchfork to the throat. We're long overdue for the next bloody uprising against the bourgeoisie.

 

Is it time?
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So on further investigation, the science may or may not be complete bollocks, but more importantly the results not sufficiently established, scientifically speaking, to support the idea they have "generated a warp field". Quite the opposite, really.

 

Still, it's about time we had a NASA Funding Drive.



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Why do we need B1 Bombers stationed here?

 

It's not happening.

 

There's no bullying except from China, who immediately raised their diplomatic level of hysteria. And there will certainly be more bullying from China, since Australia responds so readily to it.

 

The US assistant secretary of state happened to mention in the Congress, that there were plans to station B1s in Australia. When he said that, nothing was under way, but he assumed that an agreement with Australia could be made. There is an alliance, you know. That's all.

When Australian politicians and media made a big deal of this, it was immediately explained that the assistant secretary had spoken out of mistake. US diplomats soothing Australia's ruffled feathers. See? No bullying.

 

China is currently on an aggressive march to take control of island territories which belong to Vietnam and Japan, in the China Sea. They do so by intimidation and brute military force. As in occupation, shooting and killing. For real. Ask the Vietnamese.

They do so in order to claim sovereignty, and then make international waters into Chinese territorial waters. That's nonsense from the perspective of international law, of course, but it's the strategy of China to make this a situation that is normally accepted and thus a fact. This follows a long established pattern, where China will raise their tone in 'angry' diplomatic protests, and use military units to harass foreign vessels and aircraft that "intrude" on "Chinese territorial borders". Nations like Australia are typically prone to comply, because of all the noise, and because the issue is supposedly "sensitive", and because they hope that trade with China will make them rich. Nations like US, otoh, will typically intentionally fly aircraft and sail vessels through these international waters, in order to emphatically state and demonstrate that they are indeed international waters, and not Chinese territory.

 

That is why US wanted to base B1s in Australia. To fly over international waters. 

 

 

P.S. As for my personal opinion on the idea of basing B1s in Australia, I think it was reeking of poor judgement. It's just too much, considering the strong symbol of having nuclear capability. It's quite understandable that China protests that, and they have some right to do so. Just unnecessary.


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P.S. As for my personal opinion on the idea of basing B1s in Australia, I think it was reeking of poor judgement. It's just too much, considering the strong symbol of having nuclear capability. It's quite understandable that China protests that, and they have some right to do so. Just unnecessary.

 

That was interesting. I really wouldn't have minded if it did happen, but if the public got informed on it..

 

As for China why isn't Japan up in arms over islands being taken? Can't they defend themselves?



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That was interesting. I really wouldn't have minded if it did happen, but if the public got informed on it..

 

As for China why isn't Japan up in arms over islands being taken? Can't they defend themselves?

 

 

It hasn't escalated to that point yet, between China and Japan. Just harsh words of "our territory" and "our determination and resolve". Japan is in fact the only one to have managed some kind of agreement with China.

 

China started to work militarily on the weakest player, which is Vietnam. Now it seems to be the Philippines who are harassed. China basically claims the whole South China Sea as their economic zone, all the way in to Vietnam's and Philippines' borders. If you look at a map, you can see how ridiculous that is, because it's pretty damn far from China.

 

The US takes no stand on on any territorial dispute itself. Mainly, the US involve themselves only on the international waters issue, which can be part of someone's economic zone, and on the military force issue, as US also tries to dissuade China from unilaterally solving the 'disputes' with direct military means. China tries to disengage US by claiming that the 'navigational freedom' is not at stake.

 

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