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#51
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Considering good part, more than half of it was quite negative. I don't think that was their plan. Or anyone should ever attempt to. Yes it was divisive, at first but now mostly its people who are ok with the endings and people who are not ok. 

The only time the ME3 endings could be argued to be overwhelmingly negative was at launch before EC and the Leviathan DLC. Sure, people complained about the Catalyst, but it was also a lack of addressing what happened to the crew of the Normandy and what was actually the fate of the galaxy. The consequences of each choice were severe, yet BioWare didn't really show it. Once they provided more context and a greater understanding of the Catalyst, many issues most had were largely addressed. Obviously some still don't like the endings because they genuinely do not agree with them. However, that's merely a subjective criticism rather than any objective complaint that the game felt incomplete as it was at launch.

 

Negative or positive, publicity is publicity. It brought awareness to the game and regardless of what people stated about the ending, ME3 did extraordinarily well (selling more copies than any other BioWare game in history) and also received high praise from reviewers and critics. I'm fairly certain since there was never a Paragon/Renegade ending and it was merely various shades of grey, which is not something you see often in BioWare games, people would have argued over what the "right" ending was anyways. BioWare just received more than they bargained for and that was largely in part due to the game being rushed out the door on a measly two-year development cycle.

 

This is getting off topic though. The next Mass Effect will be here soon and it has already thoroughly divided BSN among Ark theory purists and those who are more inclined for a continuation in the Milky Way.



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It's been time for 8 years. My expectation are pretty low on that front as Metroid fans always say they'll definitely be a reveal, then there isn't one. 

Back to Mass Effect, surely this game will be released in 2015? Knowing EA, they'd want Bioware to release one agame a year, and ME4 has been in development for ages. Surely a Nov/Dec 2015 release isn't too much to ask? If they wait any longer, we'll be about 2/3rd through the 8th gen's life cycles...

 

A 2015 release is too much to ask if they aren't ready to release the game, it has only been three years since the release of Mass Effect 3 and they are learning and building tools for a new engine combined that with a transition to a new team to work on the project it can take longer to get the game ready.

 

I personally feel that both Dragon Age II and Mass Effect 3 had a number of problems based purely on basing the release on the date on a calendar instead of the status of the game.


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Seamless transition playing SP + MP in ME:N being the greatest of achievements.

 

For all the stricktly SPers out there, the fully remastered ME trilogy.



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Back to Mass Effect, surely this game will be released in 2015? Knowing EA, they'd want Bioware to release one agame a year, and ME4 has been in development for ages. 

 

There is no way a game that has not been revealed yet is releasing in 2015.

 

Bioware does not to release a game every year.  Unless you count the SWTOR expansion, they released no game in 2013.  

 

And the new CEO of EA -- the one that has been turning the company around -- has gone on record to investors that he wants the studios to take more time on games, not less.  He does not want to be like Ubisoft.


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It's been time for 8 years. My expectation are pretty low on that front as Metroid fans always say they'll definitely be a reveal, then there isn't one. 

Back to Mass Effect, surely this game will be released in 2015? Knowing EA, they'd want Bioware to release one agame a year, and ME4 has been in development for ages. Surely a Nov/Dec 2015 release isn't too much to ask? If they wait any longer, we'll be about 2/3rd through the 8th gen's life cycles...

 

How about early 2016?

 

EA also has Battlefront coming out in holiday 2015.



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I believe the game will be released March 2016


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I believe the game will be released March 2016

I was thinking February, but March would be okay.



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Yep. The ending is just too divisive. People will never agree on a proper path. That's part of the reason I think the ending, in a way, is so brilliant. What other video game do you hear people whine about its ending three years after it happened? If anything, BioWare made ME3 memorable.

 

It will be a war though, whatever happens. I plan on being on the front lines!

Yes, but these people haven't spent the last 3 years trying to validate one ending over the other, that Synthesis was superior to Destroy, which was, I suspect Bioware's intention.  They have, as you said, spent the last 3 years whining and complaining.  There's a lot of negativity floating around these forums.  Now we have a leak which, if even partially true, justifies that negativity because Bioware has dug themselves into a fairly deep hole without bringing a ladder.

 

Oh, and I really did enjoy your comment about Flynn at E3.  That would be a diamond moment. 



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(to Revan Reborn) It is more common than you'd think, actually, when it comes to endings be it about an ending in video games, books or films.  



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E3 we will get a 1:30 second story trailer semi confirming the leak

trailer ending with "spring 2016" in December of 2015 we will get news that its been delayed until October 2016 before being delayed and additional month releasing November 24th 2016

 

 

then when people realize the leak was legit we can recognize it as a marketing survey and that everything in it can and probably will change minus the general setting of Andromeda. then people will claim they were lied to by bioware because of info released midway through development and the cycle will continue unless we either sythisize with bioware destroy them or try and control them



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Yes, but these people haven't spent the last 3 years trying to validate one ending over the other, that Synthesis was superior to Destroy, which was, I suspect Bioware's intention.  They have, as you said, spent the last 3 years whining and complaining.  There's a lot of negativity floating around these forums.  Now we have a leak which, if even partially true, justifies that negativity because Bioware has dug themselves into a fairly deep hole without bringing a ladder.

 

Oh, and I really did enjoy your comment about Flynn at E3.  That would be a diamond moment. 

Synthesis was supposed to be the "ideal ending." The problem is BioWare did a horrible job of executing the ending and justifying why Synthesis was "best." What they left was an ambiguous, unrealistic, utopian fantasy that really unhinged Mass Effect in a variety of respects. It really just does not fall in line with the major themes of the entire trilogy, so it's difficult to justify it being the "right" choice.

 

Flynn is a nice guy so I doubt he'd take potshots at any part of the BioWare community. It would be funny though if he quickly invalidated the survey right before showing off the game.


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