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[Dai Grepher]

It is talking about one of the two remaining OG though.

 

I'm not really sure what point you're making? The only reason we know of sure, that's why I said that I think the GW had ulterior motives in trying to get to the OG. Why would they need an outside group? If they had managed to get to it without incident, they could have killed it when it was sleeping, thus no GW blood being spilt. And if it woke up or was protected and GW blood did manage to taint it, there's still an expedition force of GW right there ready to kill it.

 

How do you know it's talking about one of the remaining two old gods?

 

My point is that if it's one of the remaining two old gods, then why do they refer to it as an archdemon?

 

They would need an outside group to kill it and prevent any risk of Grey Warden blood touching and corrupting it.

 

That's if the Warden force could kill it in close quarters. Also, the archdemon might commit suicide in order to preserve itself in the nearest darkspawn.

[xPez]

How do you know it's talking about one of the remaining two old gods?

 

My point is that if it's one of the remaining two old gods, then why do they refer to it as an archdemon?

 

They would need an outside group to kill it and prevent any risk of Grey Warden blood touching and corrupting it.

 

That's if the Warden force could kill it in close quarters. Also, the archdemon might commit suicide in order to preserve itself in the nearest darkspawn.

 

Because the note is clearly talking about one of the two remaining old gods. Whether or not it is actually an old god there is debatable, it could be something else making the sound.

 

They may be referring to it as an archdemon because that's all they need to call it, or maybe they didn't know the difference then? Or, as I've already mentioned, they could be referring to it as an archdemon because they know something we don't. It's possible that they're already tainted, already archdemons, or any number of things haven't been revealed yet. My original point was that the wording is weird and to me implies something else is going on.

 

A 3rd party killing it would make it body jump wouldn't it? We don't really know enough about them to assume that the body jumping power only works after it's been corrupted, as other entities have shown body jumping powers in the DA universe.

 

The suicide thing... really? If that were possible then why didn't all of the other archdemons do it before being killed by GW?

[MACharlie1]

Because the note is clearly talking about one of the two remaining old gods. Whether or not it is actually an old god there is debatable, it could be something else making the sound.

 

They may be referring to it as an archdemon because that's all they need to call it, or maybe they didn't know the difference then? Or, as I've already mentioned, they could be referring to it as an archdemon because they know something we don't. It's possible that they're already tainted, already archdemons, or any number of things haven't been revealed yet. My original point was that the wording is weird and to me implies something else is going on.

 

A 3rd party killing it would make it body jump wouldn't it? We don't really know enough about them to assume that the body jumping power only works after it's been corrupted, as other entities have shown body jumping powers in the DA universe.

 

The suicide thing... really? If that were possible then why didn't all of the other archdemons do it before being killed by GW?

I'm not convinced at all that it's one of the two remaining Old Gods. What makes you so sure of that? It doesn't specify when/where/who the Old God is. It says "we'll have to find another." It doesn't say we'll have to find the other one. 

[xPez]

I'm not convinced at all that it's one of the two remaining Old Gods. What makes you so sure of that? It doesn't specify when/where/who the Old God is. It says "we'll have to find another." It doesn't say we'll have to find the other one. 

 

I'm not saying for definite that it is an Old God there, but it is undoubtedly an Old God that whoever wrote the Ancient Warden Logbook thinks is there.

 

I've posted the codex itself below.

 

So close. We nearly reached him. Made it down to what looked like a Dwarven thaig where the song was actually audible, real and thrumming through the air, not just in our heads. It rattled through the lyrium pillars and shook the earth beneath our feet to its dreadful tempo. We lost thirty men in the last cave-in, and the Warden-Commander is abandoning the mission. I tried to argue for one last push, but the rock is too unstable down there. We'll have to find another Archdemon somewhere more solid.

 

I'd like to say that the Grey Wardens would have had some other evidence that an OG was there and not just following the song, but there is no evidence of that.

[robertthebard]

I'm not saying for definite that it is an Old God there, but it is undoubtedly an Old God that whoever wrote the Ancient Warden Logbook thinks is there.
 
I've posted the codex itself below.
 
 
 
 
I'd like to say that the Grey Wardens would have had some other evidence that an OG was there and not just following the song, but there is no evidence of that.

The thing is, the page is named "Ancient", along with whatever else, so at the time of it's writing, there could have just as easily been 6 other Old Gods to be found, as opposed to just the two we have left, because in no language that I'm aware of, other than computer techie, is 10 years ancient.

[Aulis Vaara]

The thing is, the page is named "Ancient", along with whatever else, so at the time of it's writing, there could have just as easily been 6 other Old Gods to be found, as opposed to just the two we have left, because in no language that I'm aware of, other than computer techie, is 10 years ancient.

Yes, completely correct. However, as already stated before, people can still hear something beneath the Sands of the Western approach, so it appears the Old God is still there and thus is one of the two remaining ones.

I do find it odd that no-one has yet talked about the physical presence of the song. I had always assumed the song was part of the taint, however if it is physical and overwhelming, that cannot be true. The taint connects everyone who has it, and thus the song propagates through the taint, but only because at least some darkspawn experience it. That also makes it unlikely that the Old Gods already being tainted, since the song is clearly apart from them and it's the song that calls the Darkspawn. Plus, if they already were, then the Darkspawn would've found them all already.

[xPez]

The thing is, the page is named "Ancient", along with whatever else, so at the time of it's writing, there could have just as easily been 6 other Old Gods to be found, as opposed to just the two we have left, because in no language that I'm aware of, other than computer techie, is 10 years ancient.

 

Like the post below yours says, that has already been covered by many other posters in this thread. In Asunder Cole is fighting darkspawn near the area and he hears the song, as do the darkspawn. Also, again as already discussed in this thread, there's no evidence that a Blight ever began in the Western Approach.

[X Equestris]

Like the post below yours says, that has already been covered by many other posters in this thread. In Asunder Cole is fighting darkspawn near the area and he hears the song, as do the darkspawn. Also, again as already discussed in this thread, there's no evidence that a Blight ever began in the Western Approach.

Blights don't always begin where they start. The Deep Roads network is vast, and the archdemons do travel underground for much of it.

[Patient.Zero]

Blights don't always begin where they start. The Deep Roads network is vast, and the archdemons do travel underground for much of it.

 

That's is a valid point, but look a the hole/mine where you find the codex note. It's relatively undisturbed save the couple of planks preventing you form going any further down the hole. So if Coles still hears the sings it's still down there. 

[fhs33721]

The best part about the whole thing? Right after you read that notebook the Inquisitor is all like: "So there might be an old god buried here? Well, better plant my flag and tell my men to build a quarry here. Whatever could go wrong?"