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I was thinking it would be a nice idea if we discuss about the composition of the crew we would like to have in ME:Next. Let's take for granted the survey leak and that we are going to have 7 squad-members. How would you like your crew to be composed.

I consider this thread sort of semi-serious so I hope we aren't going to discuss about Blasto or the Volus god as squadmates. Make your crew believable.

 

My ideal crew:

 

A male Krogan scientist- You read it right! A krogan scientist like the one we met in ME2 on Tuchanka. Ideally this guy would be like any other Krogan (fierce and warrior like) however also knowledgeable about science and tech with a krogan view on it. He has a dark and gritty humor. Combat-wise is a combination of tech and warrior abilities. He get along well with a pragmatic and not idealist protagonist. This way is a little bit different from Wrex while retaining his awesomeness.

 

A "female" Asari commando - How to make this Asari not like Liara? Well she is military, she is ruthless, she believe in efficiency and get the mission done no matter the cost. She is sarcastic, sometimes a btch but in the end loyal to the cause. Combat wise she is the pure biotic with a focus on offensive powers. She respects a ruthless protagonist, however maybe you can soften her during the game. A cool asari just to weaken the stereotypes. She gets along well with the Krogan.

 

A female Turian soldier - I really liked Nyreen from Omega and I think we need someone like her in the next game. She is the direct opposite of the Asari. She is loyal, fierce and respect honor in war. Very idealistic she is a capable soldier but prefer diplomacy if possible. Combat wise it's the typical tank. Heavy weapons and armors is her way to go. A pure soldier. She gets along with the protagonist hero type and not with the Asari and the Krogan.

 

A male Salarian engineer - I was thinking about a tech-wise salarian who can use computers and such. He is a professional soldier but during the mission he tries to lighten up the situations with jokes and appropriate humor, often poking others squadmembers. Combatwise he is a pure tech guy. A fun person, he is neutral as alignment with a tendency towards paragon decisions. He goes well with the turian, so-so with Krogan (quarreling between those two is a must) and not too well with the Asari (she thinks this guy is an idiot).

 

A male Quarian soldier - This is a good guy with a scoundrel attitude, he is known for petty theft and tend to be the guy who support getting more money after each quest is done.Combatwise he is a mixture of combat and tech abilities. He is focused on the mission and for the greater good when he realize the stakes are too high. A sort of Varric in quarian form. He goes along well with the Salarian, the Turian (she however dislike his thefts and little lies). He goes ok with the Krogan but not ok with Asari.

 

A female human technician - She is the sniper/tech type. She is leaning towards good and respect the chain of command. She is a good and brave soldier and respect honesty and moral behaviour but she can also understand (unlike the turian) that the world is not black or white but shades of grey. Combat.wise she is a sniper with tech powers. She goes well with everyone unless you are ouright ruthless and she does not abide this behaviour.

 

A male human biotic/soldier - He is the biotic soldier. Combatwise he is a mixture of combat and biotic powers (his biotic are more defensive). He is a cynical guy, he suffered a difficult youth but managed to get where he is now despite everything.  He is pragmatic a tad cynical and is ok with doing what must be done to achieve the mission. He goes well with asari, the krogan and the other female human.

 

soo this is my squad. What do you think? Propose your own squad.


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In all seriousness though... I don't really care. As long as they're not puppets that worship me at every step, I'm fine with it.
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LOL nice start. I approve!



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You're the leader, then Milhouse is the loyal sidekick, Nelson's the tough guy, Martin's the smart guy and Todd's the quiet religious guy who ends up going crazy.


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In all seriousness though... I don't really care. As long as they're not puppets that worship me at every step, I'm fine with it.

 

Unless one of those women is named Dan I don't know why the hell I'd want to click for more pictures of him.

 

Also, yes. No hero worship.


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No room for the new races in your list?

 

If the leak is true then there's already one Krogan squadmate confirmed. I like the idea of a tech oriented Krogan, completely different from what I experienced in the main trilogy (did ME3 MP have a Krogan Engineer?)

 

I say give us a Krogan and a Turian squadmate, maybe one other human, maybe give us a Batarian for once, and keep the other races out. If there are going to be more than two new races, ones that aren't hostile, then I want the last 3 slots reserved for them. If there are only going to be two new races, the Khet and the ancient Remnants I'd be supremely dissapointed since Mass Effect goes beyond killing hostile aliens. ME needs new "friendly" races, so I want them as part of my squad.

 

If new races don't get party slots then I would love another Drell, and I'll settle for an Asari and Salarian.



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No room for the new races in your list?

 

If the leak is true then there's already one Krogan squadmate confirmed. I like the idea of a tech oriented Krogan, completely different from what I experienced in the main trilogy (did ME3 MP have a Krogan Engineer?)

 

I say give us a Krogan and a Turian squadmate, maybe one other human, maybe give us a Batarian for once, and keep the other races out. If there are going to be more than two new races, ones that aren't hostile, then I want the last 3 slots reserved for them. If there are only going to be two new races, the Khet and the ancient Remnants I'd be supremely dissapointed since Mass Effect goes beyond killing hostile aliens. ME needs new "friendly" races, so I want them as part of my squad.

 

If new races don't get party slots then I would love another Drell, and I'll settle for an Asari and Salarian.

 

I was thinking about new races but then thought BW would prefer a cast with familiar races on the first game to introduce the new series of games and make the thing less drastic because loads of people will want this game to feel MEish and BW knows they should introduce new elements at a slower pace for the fans to accept them positively. They can expand later on in a second game once the franchise is stabilized once again.



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Unless one of those women is named Dan I don't know why the hell I'd want to click for more pictures of him.


Almost every picture of Dan has multiple semi nude women on it. Like, seriously, 95%.

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I was thinking about new races but then thought BW would prefer a cast with familiar races on the first game to introduce the new series of games and make the thing less drastic because loads of people will want this game to feel MEish and BW knows they should introduce new elements at a slower pace for the fans to accept them positively. They can expand later on in a second game once the franchise is stabilized once again.

 

I think they can do that if they pace out when you get squad mates. Starting out with a team of 4-5 characters from familiar races, and then introduce 2 new party members down the line after people establish their footing. I hope they don't try to hold back just because they are afraid of fans. Taking place in a completely new galaxy shows that they aren't afraid to introduce new elements from the get go, and I applaud them for that. Not having any new races as party members would just be boring considering it's supposed to be a new step forward for the franchise. It's either go all the way in the new setting, and not be afraid of creating new things for people to love, or try hard to keep things too familiar which runs the risk of wondering "why not just keep the game in the MWG then and call it ME4?"



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I want a Thorian sprout (or however you like to call it) I can recruite early in the game. Kinda like that tree thing from Guardians of the Galaxy.



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I just want a crew of genuinely good people. I'm tired of the companions we've had recently in DA and ME. 



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I just want a crew of genuinely good people. I'm tired of the companions we've had recently in DA and ME.

I doubt we'll have a squad composed only by good people.

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I doubt we'll have a squad composed only by good people.

That's a shame.  :(



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That's a shame.  :(


I'm sorry for you :(. I liked the companions in DAI.

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Having a crew full of "good" people would be boring. Would they all agree on the same thing, completely eliminating any conflict that makes character interaction interesting? If they each have their own ideals that still create conflict then "good" becomes completely subjective and eventually someone will cross the line to become "bad."

 

What do you define as "good" anyway? Was Wrex good because he wanted to save his people, or do you think he was bad because he still killed people for things as petty as credits at times in his life. Was Garrus good because he went after criminals, or bad because he became a vigilante and killed people rather than capture them and let criminal law run its course? Was Liara good because she was a big flirt half the time, or do you consider her bad because she wouldn't hesitate to flail people alive with her mind, or put people in harms way on her path to revenge?

 

All of those are interesting conflicts, would you rather do away with all that? Make Wrex merely someone who wants to save his people and refuses to murder? Make Garrus stay with C-Sec and grin and bare the injustice just so he can be "good"? Allow Liara to be at the center of every galactic secret without being in danger which means she never has to deploy force to keep her identity as the SB secret or flex her muscle as such an important figure? Do you want everyone to be like Jacob... wait, he can potentially cheat on your Shepard, which in my own personal book makes him scum. I don't think "good" party members works unless you sacrifice multi-dimentional characters, which doesn't work. If anything is consistent with Mass Effect its that it is a universe with amazing characters.


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I just want a crew of genuinely good people. I'm tired of the companions we've had recently in DA and ME.


Very heavy dislike.

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I just want a crew of genuinely good people. I'm tired of the companions we've had recently in DA and ME.


How were Vega, Cortez, and Traynor not genuinely good people?
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I'm down with anything really, as long as they're complex characters. I would just like at least a few characters that I can really connect to. I certainly had my best friend squad in the first 3 ME games:

 

ME1: Liara and Kaidan

 

ME2: Thane/Miranda and Samara

 

ME3: Liara and Kaidan


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I'm sorry for you :(. I liked the companions in DAI.

Thanks. 

There were a couple I liked, but mostly no. 

 

Having a crew full of "good" people would be boring. Would they all agree on the same thing, completely eliminating any conflict that makes character interaction interesting? If they each have their own ideals that still create conflict then "good" becomes completely subjective and eventually someone will cross the line to become "bad."

 

What do you define as "good" anyway? Was Wrex good because he wanted to save his people, or do you think he was bad because he still killed people for things as petty as credits at times in his life. Was Garrus good because he went after criminals, or bad because he became a vigilante and killed people rather than capture them and let criminal law run its course? Was Liara good because she was a big flirt half the time, or do you consider her bad because she wouldn't hesitate to flail people alive with her mind, or put people in harms way on her path to revenge?

 

All of those are interesting conflicts, would you rather do away with all that? Make Wrex merely someone who wants to save his people and refuses to murder? Make Garrus stay with C-Sec and grin and bare the injustice just so he can be "good"? Allow Liara to be at the center of every galactic secret without being in danger which means she never has to deploy force to keep her identity as the SB secret or flex her muscle as such an important figure? Do you want everyone to be like Jacob... wait, he can potentially cheat on your Shepard, which in my own personal book makes him scum. I don't think "good" party members works unless you sacrifice multi-dimentional characters, which doesn't work. If anything is consistent with Mass Effect its that it is a universe with amazing characters.

I have to disagree with you. I find the idea of a crew of genuinely good people a lot more fascinating than the "Being dark or bad is cool" thing that Bioware has decided to do. 

 

To answer your questions: Wrex is a good leader but not a good person. Garrus and Liara were good people but Bioware made them not. 

 

They weren't interesting conflicts. And I disagree that in order to be amazing characters they have to be dark or morally grey. 

 

Very heavy dislike.

Explain why please. 

 

How were Vega, Cortez, and Traynor not genuinely good people?

Notice I said companions. Cortez and Traynor are not companions. There is the occassional genuinely good companion, but they are always the odd one out in the group. 



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I'm down with anything really, as long as they're complex characters. I would just like at least a few characters that I can really connect to. I certainly had my best friend squad in the first 3 ME games:
 
ME1: Liara and Kaidan
 
ME2: Thane/Miranda and Samara
 
ME3: Liara and Kaidan

Agreed. I had a similar experience, with the exception of ME2. In that game it was really hard time to pick, since I liked a lot of them. I guess my pick would've been Garrus and Miranda.
It was easier in ME (Wrex and Garrus) and ME3 (Garrus and Liara/Tali, the Two grew on me in ME2).
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Notice I said companions. Cortez and Traynor are not companions. There is the occassional genuinely good companion, but they are always the odd one out in the group.


Eh, they were practically companions, especially in Steve's case.

And I'd definitely say Javik was the odd one out in the group in ME3. But I'm totally alright with that.

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Eh, they were practically companions, especially in Steve's case.

And I'd definitely say Javik was the odd one out in the group in ME3. But I'm totally alright with that.
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Practically companions =/= companions. I love the idea of NPCs being equally important as companions, like the advisers in DAI, but I don't want the people that tend to be genuinely good always sitting on the sidelines. 

 

Not really. Every one of our companions condone genocide at least once in ME3 for example. 



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 DA:O cast was just about ideal for me, just a bit too big for my liking (5 or 6 people being perfect).

 

 

BioWare can keep doing what they do with the characters. I typically learn to like most of them.



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Explain why please.


Genuinely good people don't exist. Real characters are a mix of good, bad and absolutely awful.

And besides, a full squad of genuinely good people would severely limit your options. (and would mindnumbingly boring)

I hate the 'evil, just because'-characters just as much as you do, but you seem to be under the impression that the only other options are genuinely good characters. Which, again, do not exist, just as genuinely bad people don't exist.

Even Adolf Hitler did some really good things. First politician that took a genuine interest in animal welfare and tried to legislate it. First policitian who considered banning smoking, among other things.

Saddam Hussein brought electricity to Iraq, which was, for the most part, without electricity before he took charge. Built tonnes of hospitals and schools.
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Race: Turian

Sex: Female 

Backstory: Discharged from Turian military due to disobeying stupid order of a superior officer.

Job: First pilot

Weapons: Pistol + SMG

 

Race: Quarian

Sex: Male

Backstory: A survivor from a crashed ship, saved by the protagonist.

Job: Armory maintenance, crafting.

Weapons: Sniper Rifle + Pistol

 

Race: Batarian

Sex: Female

Backstory: Former member of the higher caste, stripped of her position due to opposing the government and now casteless.

Job: Mechanic

Weapons: Shotgun + SMG, Biotic

 

Race: Human

Sex: Female

Backstory: Newly graduated from a university, looking for adventures.

Job: Engineer

Weapons: Shotgun + Pistol

 

Race: Salarian

Sex: Male

Backstory: A smuggler on the run from authorities

Job: Second pilot/procurement specialist

Weapons: Assault Rifle + Pistol


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