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[Wynterdust]

Personally I think what would make an ideal crew is an incredibly varied cast. Have a mix of people, some genuinely good, some with an interesting/dark backstory, some that would happily betray you if they don't like your decisions etc. Nothing too predictable where you know pressing the paragon option guarantees their friendship and/or romance. (Still think the conversation wheel should mix it up though so the paragon option might be the bottom or middle choice sometimes).

 

What species/gender they are means absolutely nothing to me as long as there is a balance, and they are well written, interesting characters that aren't just there to praise you every second treating you like a superior being or just there to make up the numbers. For example, I wouldn't want a female turian just because we had Garrus before or a male quarian just because we had Tali unless they fit into the story. If they're interesting and well written, I'd welcome another male turian or female quarian. But at the same time, I wouldn't want being clones of previous companions.

[Steppenwolf]

I'd like for the squadmates to all be combat specialists that fill specific combat roles. That's the only thing that makes sense for an expedition like the one detailed in the survey leak. A forward team to secure locations before scientists to their work and settlers get to settlin', and a trained combat team to engage hostile enemies.

Ideally it would work out to something like...

Soldier- weapons expert, all around excellent combat specialist
Engineer- munitions and explosives expert
Adept- defenses expert, creates biotic shields to protect squad and biotic barriers/singularities to route enemies
Vanguard- siege expert, hand-to-hand combat specialist
Infiltrator- Long-ranged combat expert, wetworks operative, sniper rifle specialist
Sentinel- Structural and systems expert(tears things down and wrecks equipment), medical specialist
Soldier- heavy weapons expert(rail gun, grenade launcher, breach weapons, etc)

And the roles of key scientists, engineers, doctors, etc would be non-combat NPCs.

[goishen]

A krogan biotic (either male or female)  --  WHO ACTUALLY USES BIOTICS!    Not RAAAWWWRRR *head butt*  Who knew that krogans had biotics?  Who has two thumbs and didn't?  THIS GUY!  At least not until I read it in the codex of ME2.

 

Human Male --  Questions everything the protagonist does, almost to the point of nagging.  Until you almost come to blows with him.  N7 type, definitely alliance.

 

Turian Male --  By the book kind'a guy who's having problems with the new chain of command.  He's just come from a turian admiral's ship, and is very used to doing things the turian way.  Adjusting to life aboard a ship with so many races is gonna be hard.

 

Quarian Female --  Admiral Xen type, she got lippy and rather than risk starting another war with the geth, they decided to shove her off on the new Ark.  Awww, screw it, they need help anyway.  S'only a few hundred more years.  Nono, 012515611...  It's okay, I'm sending her away.

 

Hanar male as our new yeoman --   Just 'cause. He's lost because "we found out that our gods....  weren't".  Went on trip to forget about it.  But he didn't count on the lonely times, and there are plenty.

 

Asari --  A logical, but not Spock-ish logical, person.  She does have emotions, but the stress of the trip will take its toll.  She lost her home very early in the Reaper war as well as her mother and all her sisters. 

 

Hmmm, that's about all that I can think of right now.  

[Steppenwolf]

A krogan biotic (either male or female)  --  WHO ACTUALLY USES BIOTICS!    Not RAAAWWWRRR *head butt*  Who knew that krogans had biotics?  Who has two thumbs and didn't?  THIS GUY!  At least not until I read it in the codex of ME2.

Ummm, Wrex?

[goishen]

Ummm, Wrex?

 

 

Right, but I started with ME2.   ME2 - on...    Krogans rarely, if ever, used biotics  

 

EDIT :  I mean, you could argue Grunt.   But I just think of his powers being more soldier-ish.  

[Steppenwolf]

Right, but I started with ME2.   ME2 - on...    Krogans rarely, if ever, used biotics  
 
EDIT :  I mean, you could argue Grunt.   But I just think of his powers being more soldier-ish.

 

 That's because Grunt IS a soldier.

[LordSwagley]

Great ideas everywhere (Please take note Bioware) but what I would enjoy (Aside from practical female armours  ) is a squadmate or two without some stock dark/tragic past? For example in ME1 Ashleys family is a scapegoat and she lost her squad and possibly almost killed you, my Bro Kaiden was isolated from his family and killed some tool to protect his sweetheart and has physical issues stemming from his faulty implants, Wrex's own Father tried to kill him for his liberal (by Krogan standards) views, Tali was booted from her home and treated like crap by everyone except hopefully you, Garrus is a joke around C-Sec and his mom has space alzheimers and is a world weary loose cannon cop and war veteran, Liara's "Dad" ditched her and she is ostracized in Asari society for being a "pureblood" and no one listens to her because of her "youth" and everyone mistakes her for a pole dancer because she is an Asari.

 

Oh boy, in the second game Miranda was a walking trophy for her psycho Dad who tried to kill her for being infertile and she was augmented against her will, Jack (Oh geeze with this backstory even I couldn't hate her) was kidnapped by cerberus and experimented on and tortured and raped numerous times and forced to kill children and has been abused all her life, Jacobs scumbag rapist Dad abandonded him and his heroic rescue of the council was covered up, Garrus lost his entire squad on Omega and was about to commit suicide by Merc before you showed up and was depressed after you died and were villified, Tali lost nearly two squads she was commanding (Neither was fully her fault but in Shadow Broker we see she feels guilty) and she is falsely accused of betraying the fleet and she is depressed about suit life and your death and possibly her unrequited feelings for Shepard, Thane abandoned his Son and his wife was murdered and he is terminally ill and he feels guilty over his life as an assassin,, Mordin feels guilty-ish over his "clean" semi genocide of the Krogan, Samara feels guilty for her rogue daughters actions and abandoning the other two, Legion is obsessed with Shepard and wants to be alive, Grunt has no life or social skills or family just some Krogan "ideals" crammed into his brain, Kitsumi lost her boyfriend and clings to his A.I/V.I, Zaeed is a sociopathic moron, Morinth is a sociopathic pariah with family issues and an consuming addiction.

 

Third game Ash/Kaido come crawling back to you; kicking themselves for leaving you. "Muscles" a.k.a Jimmy Vega lost most of his team and a whole colony to the collectors, Garrus/Tali have their races fate in their hands, Javik is the cynical sole surviving Protean, and yaughta, yaughta, etc... in short can we please have a couple squadmates/ship crew who do not have some tragic backstory any fanfic writer could have wrote over lunch? A wide eyed-idealist    and perhaps a fresh recruit who slowly developes over the story into maybe a practical idealist   or cynicist  depending on our imput/actions? The fresh recruit could be hardened    or simply more seasoned depending on our input? I know the developers just want to build sympathy and background for each character but when each one has some overdone tragedy in their lives before they teamed up with you then it just seems sort of odd they've all lost their squad/best friend/lover or have survivors guilt or some awful childhood. Just my opinion and if you disagree I respect that

[CrutchCricket]

Few corrections there:

 

ME1

Tali wasn't "booted" from her home, she was on her Pilgrimage, a rite of passage into adulthood all quarians go through. She actually got off light with a cushy engineering role aboard a prototype warship she probably at least took notes on if you didn't outright give her specs. Compare her to the quarians on Omega, the Citadel or Ilium and you'll see how much of a break she caught.

 

I wouldn't say Garrus is a joke at C-Sec, he's just chafing under the whole "by the book" thing. Renegade cop =/= tragic backstory.

 

ME2

Mordin is not guilty about his work with the genophage, that comes later, in ME3. You can actually call him out on it then, leading to his "I made a mistake!" line

 

Legion is neither obsessed with Shepard, nor "wants to be alive". His writer fought pretty hard to not only maintain his "alien" perspective but also to present it as equally valid to our organic one. But Bioware **** on that even back then with the whole N7 armor piece (the only point of "obsession"), despite several protests that it didn't make sense.

 

Grunt is fine and actually has much less of an existential crisis than you'd expect. Probably the biggest missed opportunity for his character was a discussion with Miranda regarding their similar predicaments.

 

Zaeed being amoral and sociopathic is not tragic. Not to him anyway. All those "they all died but me" stories are never presented as affecting him. So... whatever.

 

Conflict is one of the easiest ways to breed interest so I don't blame them for having lots of it. Even a wide-eyed idealist is going to come into conflict, particularly when he realizes how the world really is, or pisses off someone who already knows.

 

That being said, not every source of conflict has to be daddy issues. ME2 did go a little overboard there.

[CrutchCricket]

I just want my crew to be able to go on the dance floor together and do this:

 

                                                                                                    

                                     

                 

                               

Where are these from?

[LordSwagley]

Few corrections there:

 

ME1

Tali wasn't "booted" from her home, she was on her Pilgrimage, a rite of passage into adulthood all quarians go through. She actually got off light with a cushy engineering role aboard a prototype warship she probably at least took notes on if you didn't outright give her specs. Compare her to the quarians on Omega, the Citadel or Ilium and you'll see how much of a break she caught.

 

I wouldn't say Garrus is a joke at C-Sec, he's just chafing under the whole "by the book" thing. Renegade cop =/= tragic backstory.

 

ME2

Mordin is not guilty about his work with the genophage, that comes later, in ME3. You can actually call him out on it then, leading to his "I made a mistake!" line

 

Legion is neither obsessed with Shepard, nor "wants to be alive". His writer fought pretty hard to not only maintain his "alien" perspective but also to present it as equally valid to our organic one. But Bioware **** on that even back then with the whole N7 armor piece (the only point of "obsession"), despite several protests that it didn't make sense.

 

Grunt is fine and actually has much less of an existential crisis than you'd expect. Probably the biggest missed opportunity for his character was a discussion with Miranda regarding their similar predicaments.

 

Zaeed being amoral and sociopathic is not tragic. Not to him anyway. All those "they all died but me" stories are never presented as affecting him. So... whatever.

 

Conflict is one of the easiest ways to breed interest so I don't blame them for having lots of it. Even a wide-eyed idealist is going to come into conflict, particularly when he realizes how the world really is, or pisses off someone who already knows.

 

That being said, not every source of conflict has to be daddy issues. ME2 did go a little overboard there.

Good Corrections, as for the conflict I am just tired of building loyalty just to hear one of my squadmates spill their guts over they're dead wife/squad/best friend it just seems so... predictable. I guess there are only so many ways to make a character sympathic and I am not suggesting the whole squad have no tragic backstories or issues (I agree with you that they help build conflict and character such as Tali & Legion) but I was hoping for just one or two raw recruits who have yet to experience any uber-tradgic life events yet, thus allowing us to witness these events ourselves and make these events that shape them more real. If they appear in further games (I might be getting ahead of myself here) it could also serve as a plot point and tradgic backstory only you were there and can relate better.

[KCMeredith]

Let this one play as Blasto and he won't need a crew. This one will save the universe by himself, this one does not share top billing.

[BraveVesperia]

I love this sort of thing, it's so fun! I've thought of six at the moment.

 

-Female Turian Sentinel: Her powers focus on defence and tanking. She considers herself a model soldier, tries to keep a completely professional attitude on ground missions and remains objective. On board the ship, she is much more relaxed and and has a thing for gallows humour. She's very competitive and keeps a running count of her kills compared to her squadmates. Initially, she'll be reluctant to tell you her personal opinion on your decisions (rather than making objective points). As your relationship develops though, she will become very honest about her thoughts and whether she agrees or disagrees with you.

 

-Asari Vanguard: A commando, hot-tempered and grumpy. Her powers tend to be offence-oriented. Prefers intimidation over diplomacy. She has a tendency to rub her comrades the wrong way, since she always speaks her mind. Despite her gruff demeanor, she has a good sense of humour and enjoys playing practical jokes on people. Ruthless to enemies, but dislikes pointless cruelty.

 

-Male Quarian Infiltrator: An exile, his skillset focuses on stealth and sabotage. Generally friendly and easy-going, if you don't mention the Migrant Fleet. He likes to spend a lot of time with the ship's pilot, nerding out over ships. He is homesick for ship life, but dislikes talking about the Fleet. He believes he was unjustly exiled, and harbours a grudge against them because of it.

 

-Female Human Engineer: Optimistic and idealistic, a savant with technology. Skillset includes things like drones, turrets, etc. Likes to create gadgets and play around with equipment to see what she can make. Sometimes leads to irritation from other crew mates if they were still using that equipment. She's fascinated by VI and AI. She feels a bit intimidated by the male human, and disapproves of his morals.

 

-Male Human Adept: Ruthless and practical. Has a high opinion of his biotic abilities and considers using them in combat to be a form of artistry. Tends to be an ends-justify-the-means type of guy. Mostly he likes to play it cool, but has a soft spot for fellow biotics, particularly those suffering from persecution (e.g. the L2s seeking reparations in ME1). Doesn't have a high opinion of the female human's personality, but has a lot of respect for her skill.

 

-Male Batarian Soldier: A decorated war hero, led the local defence against the Reapers on a batarian colony world. He managed to escape with a handful of survivors. He likes to play up the human-batarian rivalry, but doesn't mean anything by it. Cautious rather than idealistic and trusting, but keen to do the hero bit. He really doesn't like losing people or sacrifcing lives.

 

All but the batarian would be an LI. The third male LI could be the ship's pilot, making him relevant to the story and giving him input on ground missions (much like Joker). This would be perfect for me. Any extra people are just a bonus.

 

- Vorcha anomaly/experiment: Either a freak natural occurance or secret experiments (possibly by STG) results in an intelligent, eloquent vorcha. Obviously issues of his predicament and the shortcomings of his race are aplenty.

I really like this! It's probably the only way I'd want a vorcha in the team. They seem to simplistic otherwise.

[goishen]

 

I really like this! It's probably the only way I'd want a vorcha in the team. They seem to simplistic otherwise.

 

 

Actually, I think that the Vorcha presided over a much needed presence in the galaxy.  The anonymous presence.  If we can't kill you outright, we'll kill by numbers.  Some people call this the zerg perspective.  Can't say that they're wrong.

[Nitrocuban]

No smarta** Vorcha please.

I want one that does what all his Vorcha friends do. Flamer @ errything, Vorcha Bloodlust shouts and funny one-liners.

Like that one friend we all have, prolly not be the smartes person in world but a good soul and someone we can count on in every situation.

[Farangbaa]

Let this one play as Blasto and it won't need a crew. This one will save the universe by itself, this one does not share top billing.

Fixed

[BluuDuck]

I think a non-evil Ardat-Yakshi and a Battarian who isn't a slaver/ criminal could be interesting.

 

Oh and definitley more non-combat squadmates

[Helios969]

OP I really love the Krogan scientist idea.

 

A) Krogan Scientist or alternative to that a Volus Engineer as a kind of space "Q."  I wouldn't make them squadmates but rather key ship personnel.

1) Asari Commando (Vanguard)  I thought Tela Vasir was pretty great.

2) Male Turian Senteniel  I'd make him as different from Garrus you could without being a complete tool.

3) Female Batarian Infiltrator.  Why? Cause I wanna see what a female Batarian looks like.  Maybe she was sent by the Hegemony to spy and was captured...or even defected.

4) Salarian STG Soldier.  No quirky scientist, just give me a Kirrahe type soldier: honor, duty, loyalty.

5) Human Female Adept and 6) Human Male Engineer cause we need at least one hottie of each gender.

 

7) Vorcha Soldier.  No crazy experiment, just a regular old Vorcha.  It's just not a Mass Effect game without a Vorcha derisively saying: Human.

[Gwydden]

I'd like at least one of the squadmates to be from a species we've never seen before. ME2 had Thane. ME3 had Javik. Gotta keep it fresh.

[Steppenwolf]

It's just not a Mass Effect game without a Vorcha derisively saying: Human.

Does that mean Mass Effect isn't a Mass Effect game?

[Nitrocuban]

I'd like at least one of the squadmates to be from a species we've never seen before. ME2 had Thane. ME3 had Javik. Gotta keep it fresh.

I'm sure there will be a new squadmate we pick up early in the game to serve as guide and narrator for the story.

Like Neelix in ST Voyager etc.

[MattH]

I want an Asari version of Lin Beifong from Korra; Uncompromising, tough and a bit of a d*ck.

 

Since they have the past races all set up from the last mass effect, they should definitely mix things up when it comes to the characters. An affectionate Krogan medic, a hardass asari commander, a street thief Turian etc

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

A) A Turian Pilot who is dead serious and doesn't crack bad jokes.

A Krogan cook. And you can order stuff from him like... what's the most calorie packed food for biotics? Pizza!

 

1) Asari Commando - let's totally deconstruct the "blue space babe trope." Make her gruff, butch, and a gun nut. Have her smoke, because in this profession, you could be dead tomorrow. Have her pack a mini-gun as her default weapon. We don't worry about biotic cool-down with weight because they use mass effect fields to make the gun lighter. Hell, let Claudia Black voice her.

 

2) A Turian Engineer

 

3) A Batarian Sentinel who doesn't have a slaver past. Someone like Bray.

 

4) A Raloi - we've never seen one. They're new. They're canon. The story will be new, and hopefully since it is without reapers and Shepard, it should include this race. Are they biotic? We don't know. They could be. Let's make him/her an adept.

 

5) A Human Female soldier like Ashley was in ME1 (bisexual)

 

6) A Human Male vanguard (also bisexual)

 

7) Salarian STG infiltrator

 

If we're playing humans, the Love Interests are the humans and the asari. That's it.

[Nitrocuban]

A Krogan Mechanic engineer hitting everything including nonfunctional Makos and enemies with his hammer.

[camphor]

Female Turian Infiltrator totally unlikable d-bag

Asari Commando preferably as mannish and hardened as possible

New organic race Female (as shown in the backdoor meeting)

New  Golem race Male

Human male/female lets go older like 40-60s older wheres that milf/dilf when ya need um

Krogan Biotic extreamly timid (to the point of cowardace) exiled from the krogran for his "weakness" but seemingly extreamly intellegent 

if they are still around Quarian Male Tech specialist like tali but a bit of a man ******

 

 

hell basically take the races flip their gender and personality i just want the other side of the coin