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[Quarian Master Race]

For once I agree with QMR

You should do this more often. Objective, unadulterated truth is something everyone should strive for.

 

A minority that will be 50% in two years. But that doesn't matter at all. People who don't use the internet don't need to know how it works. Yet.

 

Ok, fine. The knowledge isn't necessary because it isn't mandatory or required or whatever. It is however very advantageous to have and I see no reason why someone with internet access wouldn't at look up how the very thing they are using actually works. Would you drive a car or fire a gun if you didn't know how it worked? Again, I am not talking about specific details, just the basic principles. 

 

Regarding first-world problems, you might want to have a look at this: http://en.wikipedia....Internet_access

 

The internet is a tool for information, communication and education, which makes it extremely important to everyone living on this planet. The least anyone should know is the answer to the question "What is the internet?".

You're making the same mistake as a lot of Westerners do in grossly overinflating the importance of the internet as an invention. At its core, it is a communications medium, and one that has not as of yet resulted in a large efficiency or speed improvement over the combined systems that preceeded it (telephones, radio/television, and even snail mail). Yeah, it's convinient and neat to be able to wake up and sit at your computer instead of going to your mailbox, or just logging onto wiki instead of making a trip to the library, but it isn't really revolutionary. Nothing like the massive leap forward that the electrical telegraph was in the 19th century, for example.

The argument in the UN GA for right to internet access is just a silly symptom of such bombastically out of touch ideas from the representatives of the same Western governments. Governments are no more required to provide internet access as a human right than they have been to provide everyone with a telephone in the past (they haven't). Access to advanced technologies is not a human right. You can live a fulfilling life without access to the porntube (indeed, humans have been doing it for thousands of years). Conflating it with something like running water, access to nutrition or even electricity is quite frankly a harmful and counterproductive waste of resources on frivolous pursuits.

At the risk of sounding cliché and like I'm parroting professor Chang, the washing machine (and other such labour saving appliances) have changed life in LDC's a lot more in the past 20-30 years than the internet has. The role of such devices in the elimination of domestic servitude has enabled the entire half of the population demographic that is women to get into the industrial labour force in large numbers for the first time in history in many places, and thus drastically changed economic, social and political conditions.

[Alfonsedode]

Not buying it. I still remember his early days here and witnessed the "damage control" to get where we are now. I still see it though.

That was before he changed avatar, now that s done it s a full new person

(i've now idea what u guys R talking about, anyway seems lag and geographys is a special spot of his. )

[Miniditka77]

This video sucks:

 

I'll be honest - when I saw this thread title, I thought this would be in the original post.

[The NightMan Cometh]

Hey, did you know that video sucks?    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  At the 2 minute mark he say's "this is a power utilized build"...Then, why no Cryo Blast bruh?//Also mentions Cryo Blast doesnt mix with Tac Cloak...I know bro, skip it..  I just re-watched it...My God...I want him back here so bad just to trash him again..Damn you people for chasing out Born_Strategist ...I didnt get to say nuthin'.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

 
Ah, trying to weasel out of it, I see.

 

(...)

 

I notice you've got no complaint with me describing your original comment as arrogant and full of disdain.

Stating a fact can hardly compare with raw rhetoric on the lines of "trying to weasel".

 

And no, I have no complaint with you describing my comments as whatever you perceive them to be. Your perception results purely from your reading of them.

 

smartest : dont pick a fight with cato after making an approximatively true/false quick comment

dumbest: smthg DAI MP smthg

I didn't pick a fight with Cato, and I still don't have any fight with him. If he wants to jump down my neck that's his choice.

 

Also Marksmad just got rekt!!!

How so exactly? Because some people here built an enormous edifice of interpretation upon a brief remark I made?

 

U R a bit harsh with mark, cato. Being such a nice guy all things considered, he could have been forgiven for a excessive wording and ensuing stubbornness

(I hope i dont make it sound worst than it is )

No Alfonse, I know that you would prefer the forum to be all love and kittens, but forgiveness is not the BSN way.

 

Yeah, maybe you're right. I just don't like people looking down on others and insulting them for no good reason. Point taken though.

Cato, exactly whom was I insulting with the remark that you took issue with? I'm curious, since it was written in the impersonal.

 

Not buying it. I still remember his early days here and witnessed the "damage control" to get where we are now. I still see it though.

 

You clearly like a good fight b00g13. In this case, you're overextending yourself trying to elevate an apparent difference of opinion into a moral conflict.

 

Heresy, BSN is the well of TRUTH!!

QFMFT.

 

I still remember the bizarre attacks by BSNers on me when I first joined, and all I wanted was some advice (on how to solo Plat with my N7 20 Juggernaut).

That happens to everyone when they arrive here. Except that one guy who got all the positive support.

 

 

Edit - Coincidentally, marksmad was going on and on about the lag thing in that thread too. Loooooooooooooooooooooooool.

 

More rhetoric. Someone who is "going on and on" is obviously wrong, not so? You could have chosen to say "patiently explaining" and it would have had the opposite effect. I can see why you enjoy the rhetoric you use to display a moral ascendancy. What I can't see is why you enjoy the prospect of the fight so much. I'm sure the explanation would be interesting.

[ALTBOULI]

Stating a fact can hardly compare with raw rhetoric on the lines of "trying to weasel".
 
And no, I have no complaint with you describing my comments as whatever you perceive them to be. Your perception results purely from your reading of them.
 

I didn't pick a fight with Cato, and I still don't have any fight with him. If he wants to jump down my neck that's his choice.
 

How so exactly? Because some people here built an enormous edifice of interpretation upon a brief remark I made?
 

No Alfonse, I know that you would prefer the forum to be all love and kittens, but forgiveness is not the BSN way.
 

Cato, exactly whom was I insulting with the remark that you took issue with? I'm curious, since it was written in the impersonal.
 

You clearly like a good fight b00g13. In this case, you're overextending yourself trying to elevate an apparent difference of opinion into a moral conflict.
 

QFMFT.
 

That happens to everyone when they arrive here. Except that one guy who got all the positive support.
 

More rhetoric. Someone who is "going on and on" is obviously wrong, not so? You could have chosen to say "patiently explaining" and it would have had the opposite effect. I can see why you enjoy the rhetoric you use to display a moral ascendancy. What I can't see is why you enjoy the prospect of the fight so much. I'm sure the explanation would be interesting.

I think 'Sorry' is the word your looking for

[Kenny Bania]

Cato, exactly whom was I insulting with the remark that you took issue with? I'm curious, since it was written in the impersonal.

 

Read your original post in this thread again . You don't sense the condescending/dismissive tone?

 

You clearly like a good fight b00g13. In this case, you're overextending yourself trying to elevate an apparent difference of opinion into a moral conflict.

More rhetoric. Someone who is "going on and on" is obviously wrong, not so? You could have chosen to say "patiently explaining" and it would have had the opposite effect. I can see why you enjoy the rhetoric you use to display a moral ascendancy. What I can't see is why you enjoy the prospect of the fight so much. I'm sure the explanation would be interesting.

 

I do love a good "argument" (this is hardly a fight). If you want to avoid one, don't be wrong while being condescending about it. Yes, "geographical separation" is a factor when it comes to lag.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

I think 'Sorry' is the word your looking for

I'm not looking for any words, but thanks for offering to help.

 

Read your original post in this thread again . You don't sense the condescending/dismissive tone?

 

I do love a good "argument" (this is hardly a fight). If you want to avoid one, don't be wrong while being condescending about it. Yes, "geographical separation" is a factor when it comes to lag.

So if I read your first paragraph, you are saying that what you find offensive is someone posting in a condescending or dismissive tone? That's interesting. Are you also implying that someone who does post in a condescending or dismissive tone should be sharply pulled up about it, maybe even become a legitimate target for criticism? 

 

I'm only asking in case anyone makes a post that is condescending or dismissive. One consisting purely of "L" followed by some numer of "O"s and ending with "L" again. For example.

 

Your second paragraph is actually more interesting, because you talk about lag. Yes, geographical separation can be a factor in lag, but by itself it doesn't cause lag. Do you see the distinction yet?

[DaemionMoadrin]

You should do this more often. Objective, unadulterated truth is something everyone should strive for.

 

You're making the same mistake as a lot of Westerners do in grossly overinflating the importance of the internet as an invention. At its core, it is a communications medium, and one that has not as of yet resulted in a large efficiency or speed improvement over the combined systems that preceeded it (telephones, radio/television, and even snail mail). Yeah, it's convinient and neat to be able to wake up and sit at your computer instead of going to your mailbox, or just logging onto wiki instead of making a trip to the library, but it isn't really revolutionary. Nothing like the massive leap forward that the electrical telegraph was in the 19th century, for example.

The argument in the UN GA for right to internet access is just a silly symptom of such bombastically out of touch ideas from the representatives of the same Western governments. Governments are no more required to provide internet access as a human right than they have been to provide everyone with a telephone in the past (they haven't). Access to advanced technologies is not a human right. You can live a fulfilling life without access to the porntube (indeed, humans have been doing it for thousands of years). Conflating it with something like running water, access to nutrition or even electricity is quite frankly a harmful and counterproductive waste of resources on frivolous pursuits.

At the risk of sounding cliché and like I'm parroting professor Chang, the washing machine (and other such labour saving appliances) have changed life in LDC's a lot more in the past 20-30 years than the internet has. The role of such devices in the elimination of domestic servitude has enabled the entire half of the population demographic that is women to get into the industrial labour force in large numbers for the first time in history in many places, and thus drastically changed economic, social and political conditions.

 

You are right, but I'm simply quoting the UN here, so take it up with them.

 

Personally I believe internet access is valuable all over the world but you are at a disadvantage if you don't have it in the western world. Does it matter for a Somali village if they have internet? Not really. It would be nice to have and could maybe help with a few issues but they'd do fine without it. But if you live in western Europe and don't have internet, then you are at a clear disadvantage in many areas of your life. Try to find a job without it. Try to do your shopping/banking without it when you work on long shifts. Try to stay in contact with friends without it. Yes, telephone and mail exist but if everyone is using something else, then you're left out in the cold. If everyone has it and you don't, then you have a problem.

[cato potato]

Stating a fact can hardly compare with raw rhetoric on the lines of "trying to weasel".

And no, I have no complaint with you describing my comments as whatever you perceive them to be. Your perception results purely from your reading of them.

 

You stated the fact that you had only remarked 'it isn't thought necessary' in an obvious attempt to distance yourself from the moronic claim that knowledge of computers and networks is essential. But presumably you forgot about your reply below which makes it clear that you do believe in that claim. That's an attempt to weasel out of a situation as far as I'm concerned.
 

The fact that you consider it not necessary is now the new dumbest thing I've read on the forum

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

 

You stated the fact that you had only remarked 'it isn't thought necessary' in an obvious attempt to distance yourself from the moronic claim that knowledge of computers and networks is essential. But presumably you forgot about your reply below which makes it clear that you do believe in that claim. That's an attempt to weasel out of a situation as far as I'm concerned.
 

Well, if you can't see that it was simply a quick cheap shot back at you (complete with laughing smiley, note) in return for your extensive broadside at me, then you'll have to stick with your purely rhetorical interpretation.

 

The alternative would be for you to note the context of my original remark. I was observing that people are talking about the cause of lag without understanding computers or networks. Frankly, it isn't moronic on anyone's part to expect people to know about things before they make pronouncements about them. Why you can't understand that, given your obvious intelligence and wit, is a mystery.

 

Why you seem to have originally taken a somewhat dry and neutrally impersonal remark so very personally is even more of a mystery.

[cato potato]

Well, if you can't see that it was simply a quick cheap shot back at you (complete with laughing smiley, note) in return for your extensive broadside at me, then you'll have to stick with your purely rhetorical interpretation.
 
The alternative would be for you to note the context of my original remark. I was observing that people are talking about the cause of lag without understanding computers or networks. Frankly, it isn't moronic on anyone's part to expect people to know about things before they make pronouncements about them. Why you can't understand that, given your obvious intelligence and wit, is a mystery.
 
Why you seem to have originally taken a somewhat dry and neutrally impersonal remark so very personally is even more of a mystery.

 
 
Geez, I'm surprised you can even read my posts from way up there, Marksmad. As I've already posted in this thread, I don't like it when people look down on others for no good reason - like how you consider it dumb when someone displays less knowledge than you.

 
And just to be clear, you think this is an extensive broadside:
 

It is one of the dumbest things I've seen you write recently though.

but this is just a quick cheap shot?
 

The fact that you consider it not necessary is now the new dumbest thing I've read on the forum

I think they're both very tame.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

 
I don't like it when people look down on others for no good reason....

That's very principled of you. Policing it across the Combat Strategy section will take a lot of your time, and I wish you the best of success.

 

And just to be clear, you think this is an extensive broadside:

And just to be clear, I think I'm giving you an example of playing the same silly rhetorical game that you and b00g13 are playing. Or should I use "moronic" in place of "silly"?

[DaemionMoadrin]

Well, this thread stopped being fun.

[cato potato]

That's very principled of you. Policing it across the Combat Strategy section will take a lot of your time, and I wish you the best of success.

 

And just to be clear, I think I'm giving you an example of playing the same silly rhetorical game that you and b00g13 are playing. Or should I use "moronic" in place of "silly"?

 

There are surprisingly few condescending smart arses like you around here anymore so it doesn't take up much time. It's good to see the original Marksmad make a proper reappearance.

[Kenny Bania]

So if I read your first paragraph, you are saying that what you find offensive is someone posting in a condescending or dismissive tone? That's interesting. Are you also implying that someone who does post in a condescending or dismissive tone should be sharply pulled up about it, maybe even become a legitimate target for criticism? 

 

I'm only asking in case anyone makes a post that is condescending or dismissive. One consisting purely of "L" followed by some numer of "O"s and ending with "L" again. For example.

 

Your second paragraph is actually more interesting, because you talk about lag. Yes, geographical separation can be a factor in lag, but by itself it doesn't cause lag. Do you see the distinction yet?

...don't be wrong while being condescending about it......

 

If geographical separation is the factor (i.e. most Asian hosts), then it is the cause. The application of logic is "necessary" in the 21st century.

[DaemionMoadrin]

If geographical separation is the factor (i.e. most Asian hosts), then it is the cause. The application of logic is "necessary" in the 21st century.

 

Hey honey bunny, I thought we had cleared that up a page ago?

[Kenny Bania]

Hey honey bunny, I thought we had cleared that up a page ago?

 

Tell that to marksmad.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

There are surprisingly few condescending smart arses like you around here anymore so it doesn't take up much time. 

 

Are you really reduced to name calling? 

 

As to "surprisingly few", it doesn't take that many. Policing the one quoted below would take the rest of a normal lifetime

 

The application of logic is "necessary" in the 21st century.

 

Case in point

[DaemionMoadrin]

Tell that to marksmad.

 

Why? Now you are wrong.

[cato potato]

Are you really reduced to name calling? 

 

Nope, only stating a fact. You know, just like you were only doing earlier.

[Miniditka77]

You're making the same mistake as a lot of Westerners do in grossly overinflating the importance of the internet as an invention. At its core, it is a communications medium, and one that has not as of yet resulted in a large efficiency or speed improvement over the combined systems that preceeded it (telephones, radio/television, and even snail mail). Yeah, it's convinient and neat to be able to wake up and sit at your computer instead of going to your mailbox, or just logging onto wiki instead of making a trip to the library, but it isn't really revolutionary. Nothing like the massive leap forward that the electrical telegraph was in the 19th century, for example.

 

I normally enjoy your posts, but I hope that you were sarcastically submitting this for the "dumbest thing ever written on this forum" award.  Yeah, the telegraph might have increased the speed of communications more than the internet, but that doesn't mean the internet hasn't astronomically increased the speed and efficiency of communications.

 

The argument in the UN GA for right to internet access is just a silly symptom of such bombastically out of touch ideas from the representatives of the same Western governments. Governments are no more required to provide internet access as a human right than they have been to provide everyone with a telephone in the past (they haven't). Access to advanced technologies is not a human right. You can live a fulfilling life without access to the porntube (indeed, humans have been doing it for thousands of years). Conflating it with something like running water, access to nutrition or even electricity is quite frankly a harmful and counterproductive waste of resources on frivolous pursuits.

At the risk of sounding cliché and like I'm parroting professor Chang, the washing machine (and other such labour saving appliances) have changed life in LDC's a lot more in the past 20-30 years than the internet has. The role of such devices in the elimination of domestic servitude has enabled the entire half of the population demographic that is women to get into the industrial labour force in large numbers for the first time in history in many places, and thus drastically changed economic, social and political conditions.

 

The rest of your post is pretty spot on though.

[Kenny Bania]

Are you really reduced to name calling? 

 

As to "surprisingly few", it doesn't take that many. Policing the one quoted below would take the rest of a normal lifetime

 

 

Case in point

 

We are not alike. Everyone I've called out deserved to be. Either for being a douchebag, or doubling down on a really ridiculous stance.

 

There has only been one instance where I went at Chealec for no good reason, and I publicly and privately apologised for that.

[Kenny Bania]

Why? Now you are wrong.

 

I'll be willing to admit I'm wrong if you can convince me.

[NuclearTech76]

WTF happened in this thread?

 

 

This may have Atlas versus one cast of Flamer potential.