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[andy_3_913]

Would the melee damage from a pistol equipped with melee stunner + power magnifier be anywhere near the same as shotgun + omni-blade?

 

All mods at level V.

 

That's slashy damage vs shooty damage

[Darth Volus]

Nope. Shotgun omni-blade is by far the best attachment for melee. 

[andy_3_913]

Nope. Shotgun omni-blade is by far the best attachment for melee. 

 

Okey dokey

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

Kalence says the base melee damage is 313/875 vs 375/1050. But the pistol gives you the 30% power bonus so you're trading less bare melee damage for a harder SS, right?

[Kenny Bania]

Kalence says the base melee damage is 313/875 vs 375/1050. But the pistol gives you the 30% power bonus so you're trading less bare melee damage for a harder SS, right?

 

Power magnifier is additive, so I'm not convinced SS would be more powerful anyway. Haven't looked at the numbers in ages, so I can't say for sure.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

Power magnifier is additive, so I'm not convinced SS would be more powerful anyway. Haven't looked at the numbers in ages, so I can't say for sure.

Now that you mention it, I looked at Kalence again and the Power Mag seems not to affect SS...?

[Kenny Bania]

Now that you mention it, I looked at Kalence again and the Power Mag seems not to affect SS...?

 

Hmmm. I can't remember if it's supposed to now. It's possible that Kalence is bugged.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Now that you mention it, I looked at Kalence again and the Power Mag seems not to affect SS...?

 

Power Mag affects SS. I initially thought the 25% of the Stunner and the 30% of the Power Mag would beat the 50% of the Omniblade, but Shadow Strike benefits more from the melee damage.

 

A cloaked SS with my build almost kills a Phantom with full barrier, the last two bars are taken by the DoT. With the pistol they had 3 bars left. The difference isn't huge and you're going to onehit everything but bosses anyway. (Yes, I know my build is crap but I only play it for SS/ES challenges.)

[LuckyStarr]

Pistol power magnifier affects SS alright in Kalence. What doesn't seem to affect it is the Strength Enhancer consumable.

Either way, Omni-Blade is far superior: Shotgun vs Pistol.

[Aetika]

I was using pistol with stunner on her for long time and recently switched to shotgun with omniblade. Both works. I didn´t have problems to ohk things before and I don´t have them now. For mooks the difference won´t matter, harder enemies like Pyros, Dragoons or Phantoms will die fast after SS from DoT(if not right away).

Can´t comment on power magnifier combo though, as I was never using it, but if you want to use pistol on her and are concerned about SS strenght, you don´t have to be.  Hydraulic joints + Strenght enhancer + Power amplifier IV and you are good.

[Darth Volus]

As long as you one shot Phantoms - you're good to go. And you can do that without power mahnifier or melee attachments. I know that, cos I have a Valiant sniper build. 

[DaemionMoadrin]

As long as you one shot Phantoms - you're good to go. And you can do that without power mahnifier or melee attachments. I know that, cos I have a Valiant sniper build. 

 

Do you use Power Amp mods?

[Darth Volus]

Do you use Power Amp mods?

 

Nope.   They often don't die on the spot for me, but the DOT kills them (at least on Gold) But I SS them, dodge away and either leave them to die or shoot. 

[DaemionMoadrin]

Nope.   They often don't die on the spot for me, but the DOT kills them (at least on Gold) But I SS them, dodge away and either leave them to die or shoot. 

 

That's what I do, too. ^^

[Pheabus2009]

Yeah you need Hydraulic joints V to make it roughly matches shotgun omniblade's melee damage, I find it kinda reluctant, but if you run a hybrid build (ES + SS) then it's still very viable.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Yeah you need Hydraulic joints V to make it roughly matches shotgun omniblade's melee damage, I find it kinda reluctant, but if you run a hybrid build (ES + SS) then it's still very viable.

 

I prefer the Juggernaut gear. Melee damage and shields. Sure, it's 8% less melee damage but it allows you to survive longer.

[Pheabus2009]

^Yeah that's a good option too, but IMO the ultimate survivalist gear for a melee Shadow is still Geth Scanner, she's too squishy even with Jugg shield equipped, I always go with full power amp and GS.