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Bioware please find and rescue Shep. in The Remastered ME3 version.........good gosh please!


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My Shepard lives, to lead humanity into a new golden age, with a new Cerberus in the shadows to ensure it stays that way, with Miranda (and maybe a pair of twins). He's too extraordinary to anything boring like grow old and get a gut.

 

If it was extraordinary, we'd have another game. And Shepard could be just as cool as any other video game badass, like a Samus or Solid Snake.. and not have a mere "trilogy". 

 

I'd play it, but it isn't happening.



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That's literally some of the worst reasoning I've ever seen.

 

Congrats. That's a feat.

 

You get an internet cookie.

 

All that said, It's my headcanon, not yours.



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It'll never happen OP.  The endings are ART and you don't mess with ART.  


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That's literally some of the worst reasoning I've ever seen.

 

Congrats. That's a feat.

 

You get an internet cookie.

 

All that said, screw off. It's my headcanon, not yours.

 

"Screw off?" I have nothing against your headcanon. My point is that none of it matters anymore. So I make light of all possible Shepard "future stories". It doesn't matter if one gets a "gut" or remains extraordinary. It's over. Make up anything you want. I said my Shepard would be a "space trucker" and you actually take me seriously. Please don't.

 

As for my reasoning, this is a visual and interactive medium here. It isn't worth thinking about the future, personally.. unless I play it.



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Reminds me of Tali or Conrad Verner, they should hook up.

 

Watch it there boy, no slandering Tali now. 

 

And yeah OP, I´m with you there.


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Watch it there boy, no slandering Tali now. 

 

And yeah OP, I´m with you there.

 

Tali is what we in the civilized world call a waifu, who's sole purpose in the story is 'Ahhhh, Shepard-kun, save my people and I will make loves to you! Aguuuu!'



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Tali is what we in the civilized world call a waifu, who's sole purpose in the story is 'Ahhhh, Shepard-kun, save my people and I will make loves to you! Aguuuu!'

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I never really minded that shepard died or sacrifice him/herself, though it would have been a nice reward (a genuine survival for shep), for a perfect playthrough on a really really high difficulty level, but I think it was rather expected.

 

What bugged me was that most of the NPC's were somehow safe, as long as you didn't fail, didn't have to sacrifice the ones we cared for and thus... the ending never really got emotional. As opposed to the scenes where the characters we care about fall...

 

PS: Also, why no option for a douche shepard to sacrifice someone else, in his/her place?



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Well, Javik would have been a obvious choice to give the final blow. He already lost his world and was only out to get revenge. Kill blow should have been rightfully his.



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Well i'm not particularly interested in the notion of remastering the series.
However I'm still exceptionally annoyed by their refusal to provide any closure or real clarification for live shep scenario whilst showering these gifts on the other endings. So if something was done to rectify shep lives scene being treated like a turd they desperately to ignore and provide a proper integrated epilogue for live shep via remastered versions it would at least be a nice gesture.
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 Eh, dead or alive does not matter. Shepard's story truly is over, IMO.

 

Kinda reminds me of this one episode of The Twilight Zone I once watched. In it, this guy aspires to be the greatest pool (or billiards?) player ever. So, he goes to heaven iirc and faces the last guy considered the greatest ever ("Fats"). They agree to a game, and all along the way, Fats ridicules the main-guy -- all the way up 'til main-guy wins the match over him. Fats, however, is relieved to be defeated and leaves. And now, main-guy holds the mantle of being best pool/billiards player ever.

 

Then he realizes why Fats ridiculed him and was glad to lose -- as the best-ever player, he had nowhere to go anymore. So he was stuck, up there, doing nothing but defending his title, hoping the next guy would claim the crown from him. It's kinda the same deal for Shepard. He has, in some fashion, conquered the Reaper threat. Now what?

 

It's also like that moment with Zaeed in Citadel DLC. After he finally wins, he wonders what to do next. "More claw?" he muses. Shepard can dissuade him from playing it again, though, telling Zaeed that he is not going to top that victory and that now really is the best time to walk away (Citadel DLC had lots of underlying messages).

 

In my headcanon, I hit on a way for Shepard to return in Synthesis, but I ultimately abandoned that development because I had nowhere to take his story.



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 Eh, dead or alive does not matter. Shepard's story truly is over, IMO.

 

Kinda reminds me of this one episode of The Twilight Zone I once watched. In it, this guy aspires to be the greatest pool (or billiards?) player ever. So, he goes to heaven iirc and faces the last guy considered the greatest ever ("Fats"). They agree to a game, and all along the way, Fats ridicules the main-guy -- all the way up 'til main-guy wins the match over him. Fats, however, is relieved to be defeated and leaves. And now, main-guy holds the mantle of being best pool/billiards player ever.

 

Then he realizes why Fats ridiculed him and was glad to lose -- as the best-ever player, he had nowhere to go anymore. So he was stuck, up there, doing nothing but defending his title, hoping the next guy would claim the crown from him. It's kinda the same deal for Shepard. He has, in some fashion, conquered the Reaper threat. Now what?

 

It's also like that moment with Zaeed in Citadel DLC. After he finally wins, he wonders what to do next. "More claw?" he muses. Shepard can dissuade him from playing it again, though, telling Zaeed that he is not going to top that victory and that now really is the best time to walk away (Citadel DLC had lots of underlying messages).

 

In my headcanon, I hit on a way for Shepard to return in Synthesis, but I ultimately abandoned that development because I had nowhere to take his story.

 

I like this post.. but I still blame the billiards dude and Fats for their problem. The answer to "Now what?" is ever present, right in our faces. You don't have to live for the future or competition or victory. But that's the Taoist side of me talking, so I'll stop. Some people have to get the Mongol or Confucian out of their system first.  :rolleyes:  -_-



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Honestly, I want them to redo the entire ending, I would pay extra for that, I don't care. they said how great it was going to be and that it wasn't going to be choice A, B, and C. But it turned out to be exactly that, and a lot of ended up not making sense or being somewhat lame.

 

Originally the ending and it's story as well as priority Earth I wanted changed, but now I kinda also wish they would also change Rannoch. I was fine with it, even though it was disappointing to me and I romanced Tali. I changed my opinion because a friend sent me a link to this guy on Fanfiction.net called "AssaultSloth" I think he had some valid points about it in his profile Bio. I mean, if an employee could explain it to me I'd be happy, but it seems like while the employees monitor the forum, they don't comment too often.

 

Honestly, I think they should make a forum for Next-Gen Trilogy suggestions if they re-master it, but I don't think they would, which is very depressing.



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 Eh, dead or alive does not matter. Shepard's story truly is over, IMO.

 

Kinda reminds me of this one episode of The Twilight Zone I once watched. In it, this guy aspires to be the greatest pool (or billiards?) player ever. So, he goes to heaven iirc and faces the last guy considered the greatest ever ("Fats"). They agree to a game, and all along the way, Fats ridicules the main-guy -- all the way up 'til main-guy wins the match over him. Fats, however, is relieved to be defeated and leaves. And now, main-guy holds the mantle of being best pool/billiards player ever.

 

Then he realizes why Fats ridiculed him and was glad to lose -- as the best-ever player, he had nowhere to go anymore. So he was stuck, up there, doing nothing but defending his title, hoping the next guy would claim the crown from him. It's kinda the same deal for Shepard. He has, in some fashion, conquered the Reaper threat. Now what?

 

It's also like that moment with Zaeed in Citadel DLC. After he finally wins, he wonders what to do next. "More claw?" he muses. Shepard can dissuade him from playing it again, though, telling Zaeed that he is not going to top that victory and that now really is the best time to walk away (Citadel DLC had lots of underlying messages).

 

In my headcanon, I hit on a way for Shepard to return in Synthesis, but I ultimately abandoned that development because I had nowhere to take his story.

And that's a fine reason to end Shepard's story.  I was ready for this tale to end even before ME3 was released.

 

But railroading Shepard's ending the way they did was and still is a douche move.  It leaves little room to headcanon anything for Shepard when you get to watch him/her disintegrate before your eyes.

 

A live Shepard can go in many different directions (how many fanfictions are out there about the further adventures of the Hero of Ferelden?) a dead Shepard has very little to work with.


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And that's a fine reason to end Shepard's story.  

 

But railroading Shepard's ending the way they did was and still is a douche move.  It leaves little room to headcanon anything for Shepard when you get to watch him/her disintegrate before your eyes.

 

A live Shepard can go in many different directions (how many fanfictions are out there about the further adventures of the Hero of Ferelden?) a dead Shepard has very little to work with.

 

Shepard doesn't always disintegrate. And when he does, it's player choice (like Synthesis). It's not supposed to go anywhere but "death".

 

Otherwise, high ems destroy is the same kind of ending as 1 and 2.. Shepard's just more beat up. They just don't want to spell it out.

 

I know you've been going at this for quite awhile though and I'm not going to convince you (in fact, I'll applaud you. I'm surprised you've kept it up this long).



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Shepard doesn't always disintegrate. And when he does, it's player choice (like Synthesis). It's not supposed to go anywhere but "death".

 

Otherwise, high ems destroy is the same kind of ending as 1 and 2.. Shepard's just more beat up. They just don't want to spell it out.

 

I know you've been going at this for quite awhile though and I'm not going to convince you (in fact, I'll applaud you. I'm surprised you've kept it up this long).

 

 

Shepard dies in every ending but one.  That they are not supposed to be anything but "death" is a massive flaw in the game.  

 

High EMS destroy started as an easter egg, and took on a life of its own when it became the only way Shepard isn't outright killed.  Though the fact that it isn't spelled out kinda makes EC hypocritical about the whole "clarity and closure" thing.

 

And no, you won't convince me.  And heck Shepard's death isn't even the part about the endings I'm most p*ssed about.  I just want Bioware to step back from the brink and remember what it was that made their games so popular to begin with (and no it wasn't the True Art is Angsty thing they seem to have embraced)  ;)


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How anyone can equate 'breath scene' absent of any element of closure or clarification to the me1 & 2 endings is beyond me.
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Shepard dies in every ending but one.  That they are not supposed to be anything but "death" is a massive flaw in the game.  

 

High EMS destroy started as an easter egg, and took on a life of its own when it became the only way Shepard isn't outright killed.  Though the fact that it isn't spelled out kinda makes EC hypocritical about the whole "clarity and closure" thing.

 

And no, you won't convince me.  And heck Shepard's death isn't even the part about the endings I'm most p*ssed about.  I just want Bioware to step back from the brink and remember what it was that made their games so popular to begin with (and no it wasn't the True Art is Angsty thing they seem to have embraced)  ;)

 

I'm not trying to convince you about Bioware in general. Have at it. 

 

It's not an Easter Egg.. It's a valid story option among many. It's the ending for anyone who played most of their game. I think it was a mistake to tie it to multiplayer, but that doesn't take anything away from it.



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How anyone can equate 'breath scene' absent of any element of closure or clarification to the me1 & 2 endings is beyond me.

 

I'm not talking about closure or what's going to work on some emotional level. Just pointing out the underlying events are the same. Shep is in rubble and lives. This isn't "disintegration".

 

 

edit: More to the point, I'm just saying all 3 games use similar imagery in general in their endings. Shooting up a beam or blasting into the unknown (Omega 4 Relay, Conduit), floating platforms (Saren and Collectors.. and levitating to the Catalyst), etc.. The "emerging from rubble" is another one of those things. I don't know what it all means, but they're all variations of the same thing.



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I'm not talking about closure or what's going to work on some emotional level. Just pointing out the underlying events are the same. Shep is in rubble and lives. This isn't "disintegration".
 
 
edit: More to the point, I'm just saying all 3 games use similar imagery in general in their endings. Shooting up a beam or blasting into the unknown (Omega 4 Relay, Conduit), floating platforms (Saren and Collectors.. and levitating to the Catalyst), etc.. The "emerging from rubble" is another one of those things. I don't know what it all means, but they're all variations of the same thing.


Except he/she doesn't emerge from the rubble in 3. He/she is bizarrely left there gasping.
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Except he/she doesn't emerge from the rubble in 3. He/she is bizarrely left there gasping.

He's not dead though. Nothing suggests he'll certainly die suddenly in the future.



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I like this post.. but I still blame the billiards dude and Fats for their problem. The answer to "Now what?" is ever present, right in our faces. You don't have to live for the future or competition or victory. But that's the Taoist side of me talking, so I'll stop. Some people have to get the Mongol or Confucian out of their system first.  :rolleyes:  -_-

 

Oh, I don't mean to imply that. Just saying there are no real stories to tell with Shepard anymore, aside from fluff/drabble fan-fiction.

 

I mean, he stopped the Reapers. Any other conflict will be lesser and thus the outcome fairly obvious -- no question of if, but how.

 

*edit* -- As such, I can take or leave Shepard with the endings, because the future is not about him any longer. You cannot grow this legend any further. So in my headcanon, I focus on continuing the stories of the squadmates. I did a story on Kaidan. James is the lead candidate for my next. It's their time to shine. In many ways, it was them who made Shepard who/what he was.



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Tali is what we in the civilized world call a waifu, who's sole purpose in the story is 'Ahhhh, Shepard-kun, save my people and I will make loves to you! Aguuuu!'

I actually agree, I went from being a Talimancer to just being someone who likes Tali's character development and that's it. 

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I also agree. 


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He's not dead though. Nothing suggests he'll certainly die suddenly in the future.


No effort is made to imply he'll live. His crew still rush to declare him dead before thinking better of declaring someone dead who apparently isn't. Breath sequence certainly isn't integrated into the sweeping epilogue that covers the rebuilding process, where in fact the implication is the opposite.

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Naw, BioWare ain't gonna ever do anything like that. 

 

1) They don't have the balls

2) They don't have the talent

 

 

 They have lots of "integrity" tho. And.... Lots of "art" and stuff and stuff like that. 


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