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Sonic versus Mario!   :)

 

"My iconic character could beat up your iconic character!"

 

"Nuh-uh!"


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Sonic did have the vastly superior Saturday morning cartoon, however. SatAM was the shizniddlebamsnipsnapsnap.


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"My iconic character could beat up your iconic character!"

 

"Nuh-uh!"

:lol:

 

To me, this is exactly how the whole "Platform X versus Platform Y" thing sounds.  Cripes, don't we have enough crap we bicker over in this community without that nonsense?

 

 

Sonic did have the vastly superior Saturday morning cartoon, however. SATAM was the shizniddlebamsnipsnapsnap.

Oh come on!  Don't you remember the Super Mario Bros. Super Show?

 

"Swing your hips from side to side"
"Everyone do the Mario together!"

 

That being said, I 100% agree.


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Oh come on!  Don't you remember the Super Mario Bros. Super Show?

 

"Swing your hips from side to side"
"Everyone do the Mario together!"

 

That being said, I 100% agree.

 

And then the movie happened


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Sonic did have the vastly superior Saturday morning cartoon, however. SatAM was the shizniddlebamsnipsnapsnap.

 

Only one way to solve it now, have Sonic and Mario fight in Smash


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And then the movie happened

And then Bob Hoskins spends most of the movie while filming drunk off his arse.  Explains a few things, doesn't it?

 

Edit: I have to give a small shout-out to my dad.  I grew up gaming and my beliefs about the stupidity of the "platform wars" comes from him.  He helped teach me perspective when it comes to games.  I adore him for that, and I even dedicated my ME3 album to him.  He liked it.  :)



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That's some seriously warped logic.

Platform selection *is* voluntary, and there are any number of reasons why I player would choose to play in a console. Therefore, what BansheeOwnage said stands. Mods are great, but they should not be seen as solutions to a games issues or wants. Just because a small fraction of players have access to player-made solutions does not make those solutions viable for the rest of us.
Again. It's not a be-all-end-all solution.

They're viable solutions for anyone who has the option to choose a moddable platform.

It merely adds to the things to consider when choosing a platform. If someone wants a PS4 enough to overcome the supposed benefits of modding, then they'll get the PS4. But in doing so, they're choosing a more limited gaming experience.

This has always been true of console gaming. The only difference now is that viable gaming PCs are no longer prohibitively expensive.

 

Also, there's no reason why people can't sit at a desk to use a console or recline on a couch with a PC.  The peripherals are interchangeable.


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The same can be said for hairstyles, broken male elf arms, hunchback-ish female walking, the lazy sitting posture on the throne, etc...



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DAI is not a medieval simulator, though.



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Sylvius, perhaps you're unaware, but (at the present time) this (ported to PC from console) game cannot be modded (as of patch 6 I believe it is impossible). Even before, it was mainly a few minor aesthetic (mostly colour for clothing) mods that was possible



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Sylvius, perhaps you're unaware, but (at the present time) this (ported to PC from console) game cannot be modded (as of patch 6 I believe it is impossible). Even before, it was mainly a few minor aesthetic (mostly colour for clothing) mods that was possible

This is working and it's for Patch 6.  There is also mods up on nexus, one of which gives an Amulet of Power with infinite uses.  Shoot, prior to patch 6, I was using an Increased Inventory Mod, More Resources from the War Table mod, More Reputation per Quest mods as well.  So there was a lot more than just aesthetics available.  You should check it out.

 

http://www.reddit.co..._run_mods_with/

 

Some mods aren't working, but most seem to be doing okay.



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*snip*

 

That's what I was getting at.   I apologize if this came off as a rant.  It wasn't directed at you or anyone in particular, I promise.  You can tell that this is a bit of a sore subject for me.   :blush:

Thanks for elaborating. I just wasn't sure how to take the pixel comment because I wasn't sure how you meant it. I do now though, thanks. Also, I couldn't agree more, it's petty and sad and immature and counter-productive etc. We love games! That's the important part. People should re-focus on that.


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Also, there's no reason why people can't sit at a desk to use a console or recline on a couch with a PC.  The peripherals are interchangeable.

Indeed, I actually sit at my desk and use my PC screen to play on my xbox. I like it better than using a TV, but miss the couch.



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Sylvius, perhaps you're unaware, but (at the present time) this (ported to PC from console) game cannot be modded (as of patch 6 I believe it is impossible). Even before, it was mainly a few minor aesthetic (mostly colour for clothing) mods that was possible

I'm aware modding is difficult. That was my point. If the game were more moddable, there would be fewer complaints.

I only complain about features I can't fix. The iconic companion appearances in DA2? Fixed, so not a problem for me. The misallocation of companion talents in DAO? Fixed, so not something worth complaining about. The lack of clothing options. Nudity. Restrictive stat requirements. Lack of tooltips. The nerfs that got patched in. All fixed by mods.

I desperately wish DAI were more moddable.
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It's a shame they didn't use medieval or renaissance clothing for inspiration. Either one would have resulted in something that was a vast improvement over the Skyhold pajamas.


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I send that article to Mike Laidlaw; this was his reply: 

@Mike_Laidlaw 18h
18 hours ago

Read it. It's a good piece, but assumes intent where the likely reason was actually compromise.



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Hah, this was the best part...

 

When I got to, "For example, why not have an optional sidequest to have a different or upgraded ball outfit by going on a hunt for the most stylish materials?" my initial thought was that the idea was rather silly, but then she finishes it with, "It would certainly make that hunting sidequest in the Hissing Wastes make more sense, the one where the huntress literally tells you her job is to hunt down materials for truly style conscious in the capital," and I thought it was BRILLIANT!

 

Even though I do agree with her premise, and neither do I like either the Winter Palace dress uniform or the Skyhold attire (I refuse to call them pajamas), I think focusing on them to such a great degree is a bit extreme.

 

Actually, the biggest problem that I have with the Skyhold attire is that on the larger framed males (human, dwarf, qunari) it looks too tight, you can see the fabric pulling on the side and in the back; it looks really uncomfortable. I'm not crazy about the way boobs look in it either. To me, the unfortunate color choice is secondary to the way the garment actually fits on the character.



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This really needs to be seen by Bioware people.

Great article, summing up what & why.



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This really needs to be seen by Bioware people.

Great article, summing up what & why.

Someone already sent it to Mike Laidlaw, the head guy for the DA games.  

 

 

I send that article to Mike Laidlaw; this was his reply: 

@Mike_Laidlaw 18h
18 hours ago

Read it. It's a good piece, but assumes intent where the likely reason was actually compromise.

 

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 the very limited clothing customization options in Dragon Age Inquisition

 

Um.... what? Are we playing the same game?

 

There's multiple basic armors for each class, which can be shared cross-class with materials solely designed for that purpose, recolored by the individual parts & physically altered in multiple spots. And then there's uniques, too.

 

Not only do I think they should put their primary focus on other things, but even if it's the most important feature to you, that just seems intentionally picky. It's the visually most customizable game they have ever done - they are so in your face about customizability in fact, I was sure this is another weird troll until I read some of the serious responses given.

 

They just can't win.



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Um.... what?

 

There's multiple basic armors for each class, which can be shared cross-class with materials solely designed for that purpose, recolored by the individual parts & physically altered in multiple spots. And then there's uniques, too.

 

Not only do I think they should put their primary focus on other things, but even if it's the most important feature to you, that just seems intentionally picky. It's the visually most customizable game they have ever done - they are so in your face about customizability in fact, I was sure this is another weird troll until I read some of the serious responses given.

 

They just can't win.

 

...If you are so gentle to tell me where I can customize the Shyhold clothes, I would be very grateful. Me and the entire community must have missed it.

 

We are talking of clothes. Not armour. If we could keep our armour while in Skyhold, I hightly doubt people would feel so limited in what their character wear.

ME2 and ME3 gave the chance to choose civilian clothes, but DAi don't. the Inquisitor is stuck in the most bland, tight skin, unglory beige thing ever. Even Hawke attire was better.


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...If you are so gentle to tell me where I can customize the Shyhold clothes, I would be very grateful. Me and the entire community must have missed it.

 

We are talking of clothes. Not armour. If we could keep our armour while in Skyhold, I hightly doubt people would feel so limited in what their character wear.

ME2 and ME3 gave the chance to choose civilian clothes, but DAi don't. the Inquisitor is stuck in the most bland, tight skin, unglory beige thing ever. Even Hawke attire was better.

I agree with you, but I think what the poster was getting was that since the game offers so much customization with the armor, that people that don't like the beige nightmare are being too picky.  Basically, anyone that thinks a variety of color and more than one outfit should be in the game needs to stop complaining.  

 

I say bollocks to that.  I can understand if at release, the developers felt the need to prioritize armor over clothing.  Cool, I respect that, especially there is far more animation issues that can happen with combat armor versus causal clothes.  So in that respect, I can see where Mike is coming from.  

 

However, with The Black Emporium coming out soon, I thought this would be a great time to ask for something like a tinting table for clothes.  If they can't do it in time for TBE, then I don't see why they can't in a patch like they did with the armor table (to the devs: that was awesome and thank you.)   Multiple outfits would be nice, but I have seen the men's causal clothes in black and they don't look as ridiculously skintight imho. Most of these multiple requests for the clothes have been very polite, and aren't badgering the company unlike some of the other repeated requests I've seen in Feedback.

 

BTW, I agree about Hawke's home attire, but that party attire for MotA was so much worse.  Let me put it this way: I don't think I've ever saved and exited a game and got mods going so quickly before or since.  Yikes.


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I agree with you, but I think what the poster was getting was that since the game offers so much customization with out armor, that people that don't like the beige nightmare are being too picky.  Basically, anyone that thinks a variety of color and more than one outfit should stop complaining.  I say bollocks to that.  I can understand if at release, they felt the need to prioritize.  Cool, I respect that.  However, with The Black Emporium coming out soon, I thought this would be a great time to ask for something like a tinting table for clothes.  If they can't do it in time for TBE, then I don't see why they can't in a patch.

 

I still don't get why BioWare didn't released anything at all. Is not such a hard thing to do, if modders in few weeks could get out more than one resking ot the thing. They have professional tools too. And is something people complained about before the game was out. Is nothing new. And nothing have been even hinted about it.

And I'm quite tired of waiting the BE, now. Is been a lot of time now. :angry:

 

This silence is quite bad, it feel like BioWare isn't listenig. Same for the hairstyles. no word about it.  Not even a "we have heard, in the next game we will do better".

Those are minor things, I know, but exactly because are little things, is not like are things that require that much work. No need to programming, just modelling.



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Oh, so this is just about the Skyhold clothes again?

 

I hereby withdraw my harsh inquiry.

 

I still don't think it's an emergency personally, but this I understand from someone else's POV, since there really is only one outfit. Which admittedly looks silly, at least for anyone not roleplaying as (male) Prince Charming of Rainbow Wondercastle.



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I agree with you, but I think what the poster was getting was that since the game offers so much customization with the armor, that people that don't like the beige nightmare are being too picky.  Basically, anyone that thinks a variety of color and more than one outfit should be in the game needs to stop complaining.  

 

I say bollocks to that.  I can understand if at release, the developers felt the need to prioritize armor over clothing.  Cool, I respect that, especially there is far more animation issues that can happen with combat armor versus causal clothes.  So in that respect, I can see where Mike is coming from.  

 

However, with The Black Emporium coming out soon, I thought this would be a great time to ask for something like a tinting table for clothes.  If they can't do it in time for TBE, then I don't see why they can't in a patch like they did with the armor table (to the devs: that was awesome and thank you.)   Multiple outfits would be nice, but I have seen the men's causal clothes in black and they don't look as ridiculously skintight imho. Most of these multiple requests for the clothes have been very polite, and aren't badgering the company unlike some of the other repeated requests I've seen in Feedback.

 

BTW, I agree about Hawke's home attire, but that party attire for MotA was so much worse.  Let me put it this way: I don't think I've ever saved and exited a game and got mods going so quickly before or since.  Yikes.

 

Honestly, if you remove those rose prints on the front of the vest, I think it looks infinitely better than the Skyhold pajamas.

 

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I looked up images for the dress mod, and I have to say I can't say that I'm sold on the look.