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I think you could skip Feros and have a well paced story... Eden Prime/Citadel..Therum... Noveria... Virmire.. Ilos.

 

Shep romances Ash and then has to leave her on Virmire :D (that was actually what they used for the trailer). After that, Shep is completely fed up and won't sacrifice more Alliance soliders for the Council.

 

They could integrate Therum into Eden Prime since its only purpose is to find Liara, and since she's a Prothean expert and there's a Prothean beacon on Eden Prime it could work.

Agree about Feros, no need for the cipher since only Shepard and Saren used the beacon anyway.


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I think they could do a a decent movie of ME1 by combining plot elements and rearranging where charcters get introduced.  My worry would be the horrible way they would turn all the chaarcters we love into cardboard cutouts.  Like...Liara would be go from nerdy, befuddled scientist to a total sex kitten. I feel like I would cringe through the whole movie.

 

ME2 feels more like a good movie in terms of the story...but they would have to do some serious intro to get everyone on board with the setting.  I still remember having to pause and explain to my mom what the hell was going on in Lord of the Rings after Kate Blanchett's little intro dialogue.  It was not enough for a newbie to get into the setting. So...it is not the that story couldn't be told in a movie...it is that the exposition would be near impossible to do unless it was done VERY creatively.  (Anyone remember Dune, with the Princess and her intro?  It was boring as hell...but at least folks knew what was happening).

 

A fun movie could be Shephard's origins...how he became such a badass, etc.  Would require picking a background, but if successful, could result in a part 2 that hits some of the events in ME1...Ie, make it Shepherd focused like the Chronicles of Riddick movies were...   That could work, if done well.   Maybe (and that's a big maybe)...


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I think they could do a a decent movie of ME1 by combining plot elements and rearranging where charcters get introduced.  My worry would be the horrible way they would turn all the chaarcters we love into cardboard cutouts.  Like...Liara would be go from nerdy, befuddled scientist to a total sex kitten. I feel like I would cringe through the whole movie.

 

ME2 feels more like a good movie in terms of the story...but they would have to do some serious intro to get everyone on board with the setting.  I still remember having to pause and explain to my mom what the hell was going on in Lord of the Rings after Kate Blanchett's little intro dialogue.  It was not enough for a newbie to get into the setting. So...it is not the that story couldn't be told in a movie...it is that the exposition would be near impossible to do unless it was done VERY creatively.  (Anyone remember Dune, with the Princess and her intro?  It was boring as hell...but at least folks knew what was happening).

 

A fun movie could be Shephard's origins...how he became such a badass, etc.  Would require picking a background, but if successful, could result in a part 2 that hits some of the events in ME1...Ie, make it Shepherd focused like the Chronicles of Riddick movies were...   That could work, if done well.   Maybe (and that's a big maybe)...

 

Yeah, the first Dune was terrible for that...Not necessarily the Princess bit, but it conveyed the characters' thoughts through the whole movie. It  tried to be too much like a book (that said, the design was still badass. Still one of the coolest looking films).

 

I still like the default Shep's origins. Earthborn/ghetto kid. I kind of imagine him not just being a fighter, but learning something like Parkour in the city he grew up in. Sole Survivor... he learned to survive like a Krogan. Multiple thresher maws on foot. This makes Grunt's rite of passage all the more cool... with the human teaching him the ropes.


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FemShep: Emily Blunt

 

Emily Blunt playing Commander Shepard would be the greatest thing in the history of ever. 



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A while back, when I was very bored, I started an outline for a TV series based on Mass Effect. I rearranged the plots, changed some things and never actually finished it, but I think it would make for a good starting point.

Mass Effect: The Series

In the year 2188 humanity is struggling to achieve relevance and authority on the galactic stage. In the 40 years since Earth’s Alliance discovered a data cache on Mars from a long-extinct race of humanoid space travelers, humanity has made awesome technological strides and traveled to the far reaches of the Milky Way, even colonizing dozens of worlds. But despite these advancements humanity remains a second-class race in the eyes of the galaxy’s other advanced races. Humanity’s first contact with another advanced race, the warlike Turians, quickly devolved into a war lasting two years. Just four years later humanity was once again at war with an alien race. This time the Batarians, a race of slavers and criminals, waged war with humanity after abducting humans from colonies and selling them into slavery. This war lasted one year and ended with the decimation of the Batarian’s main fleet, sending the race of villains into a downward spiral and cementing them as irrelevant on the galactic stage. Despite this humanity has made great inroads diplomatically with The Council, the ruling body of a large sector of governed space that is led by Turian, Asari and Salarian councilors. Many other races seek full council membership so as to shape galactic policy and more effectively aid their races and planets. Humanity’s ambassador to the Council, Donnel Udina, has been struggling for years to give humanity the chance to prove their worth to the Councilors. Now the opportunity has presented itself…
Three human colonies outside the edges of Council space have gone dark in as many months. Every colonist vanished without a trace, without any sign of wrongdoing. Each of the colonies lie outside the jurisdiction of the Council so Ambassador Udina’s efforts to acquire Council support in investigating the disappearances have been fruitless. Until a Salarian satellite near the third colony detected an anomalous energy signature that the Council recognized. With this new information the Council has tasked a Spectre, the Council’s elite operatives with expansive purview and legendary skill, with assisting the Alliance in their investigation. The only condition: just a single ship and crew may be involved, and if captured or killed the Council will denounce all involvement for risk of war with non-Council sectors of the Galaxy. The ship selected to mount this effort: The SSV Normandy, an experimental stealth frigate designed and built in a joint military venture between the Alliance and the Turian military. The crew, handpicked by Udina and Alliance Command: a team of specialists in the fields of forensics, engineering, genetics, linguistics and warfare(including biotic soldier Kaiden Alenko, weapons specialist Ashley Williams, and N7 recruit James Vega), led by N7 Operative Commander Jane Shepard and Captain David Anderson. The Council’s handpicked Spectre: a Turian wetworks specialist, Nihlus Kryik.
As the human crew of the Normandy investigates dead colonies, gathering what little evidence they can, Nihlus has his own objective, secret from the others. As the investigation starts looking fruitless the crew receives an anonymous tip about an impending attack on another colony. When the Normandy arrives the colony is already being abducted. A massive hive-like ship has landed near the center of the colony. When the forward team and Nihlus try to intervene they’re attacked by insect-like creatures that immobilize them, forcing the rest of the crew to retrieve them(and specimens of the creatures) and return to the Normandy. As the Normandy attempts to disable the enemy ship’s propulsion systems they’re fired upon by the ship’s superior weapons. Forced to flee and abandon the colonists, the Normandy crew is disheartened but wiser. While reporting the event to the Council it is revealed that The Collectors are to blame for the abductions and that the Council has been searching for them for centuries. The Collectors are linked to hundreds, perhaps thousands of abductions throughout the galaxy, though on much smaller scales than the human colony abductions. With samples of the Collectors’ debilitating creatures and an envoy from the Salarian STG, an elite squad of soldiers and scientists tasked with ensuring the success of Salarian missions and goals, in the form an eccentric scientist called Mordin Solus, the team is able to develop a shielding technology to prevent debilitation in the future. It is also revealed that the anonymous tip came from a rogue black ops organization, splintered from the Alliance, dubbed Cerberus. In light of the rapidly changing parameters of the mission the Council sends an additional Spectre, the legendary Saren Arterius, to assist the Normandy crew.


It basically puts a re-worked ME2 first, and that's for several reasons. It gives the opportunity to establish more lore throughout the first season, it introduces the audience to Saren before he was a slave to a Reaper and to Nihlus more than 5 minutes before he's shot dead, it goes further in establishing how the various races of the galaxy became so technologically advanced, and it saves the bigger story(going after Saren, his Geth army and a Reaper) for the next season so the stakes are raised each season.

 

Emily Blunt playing Commander Shepard would be the greatest thing in the history of ever.


Antje Traue is clearly the superior choice.



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Oh, are we sharing our TV series pitches? Here's mine from September. Got a far better reception than I'd anticipated.

http://forum.bioware...evision-series/

Season 1: Trial by Fire (First Year)

01. Chosen
02. Spectres
03. Rough Tides
04. Dr. T'Soni, I Presume
05. Vis a Vis
06. Visitors From Down the Street
07. Armstrong
08. Corporate Interest
09. Maternal Instinct
10. The Cerberus Network
11. Virmire
12. Bring Down the Sky
13. Grounded
14. Race Against Time: Message in a Bottle
15. Race Against Time: Hour of the Wolf

Season 2: Fight for the Lost (Second Year; First Half)

01. Death and Rebirth
02. Freedom's Progress
03. Quarantine Zone
04. Archangel
05. The Price of Revenge
06. Okeer's Legacy
07. Stealing Memory
08. Overlord
09. Subject Zero
10. Horizon

Season 3: Heart of Courage (Second Year; Second Half)

01. Rebirth Through Death
02. Unforgettable
03. The Devil You Know
04. Sins of the Father
05. Blood on the Scales
06. War Scorched
07. Treachery and Faith
08. IFF
09. A House Divided
10. Suicide Mission: The Approach
11. Suicide Mission: Fight for the Lost
12. Lair of the Shadow Broker [90]
13. Arrival

Season 4: Beginning of The End (Third Year)

01. Earth is Burning
02. Mars Volta
03. No Safe Harbor
04. From Ashes
05. In the Pale Moonlight
06. Tomorrow's Vanguard
07. Perchance to Dream
08. Appearances and Other Deceits
09. A Future for the Krogan: United
10. A Future for the Krogan: The Shroud

Season 5: Committed to Legend (Fourth Year)

01. The More Things Change
02. Operation Omega
03. Today is a Very Bad Day
04. Perseus Veil
05. Keelah'Salai
06. Midnight on the Firing Line
07. In A Mirror, Darkly [90]
08. Beneath the Surface
09. Asari Sunset
10. Sanctuary
11. You Are Cordially Invited
12. Last Day of the Final Cycle: Old Wounds
13. Last Day of the Final Cycle: Hammer and Shield
14. Last Day of the Final Cycle: The Middle Path

Work in progress based on my first Shepard. Constantly tweaking. I have short blurbs of each "episode" written in a composition book somewhere. To this day I know more about sci-fi television production than video games, I think. I've applied that knowledge to this little pet project and would expand upon many elements of the series were this the format chosen and were I, well, in the industry. I'm aware the length appears unnecessary to some, but this is built around the dream foundation of bygone big-budget traditional cable storytelling, especially in the first season, which would be able to paint a good introductory depiction of the lore with those so-called "filler" assignment plots you see up there, as well as allowing the ME1 cast ample development, a thing which is lacking in the game itself.

Pipedream of mine to make it happen, not far behind "travel through every country in the world" and "cure cancer."

So yeah. TV.
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...I think you may be putting the cart ahead of the horse there, Jeff. Generally you want to plan out the first season before moving onto future seasons and actually write the episodes before you name them...

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Heh, well, I've written out blurbs for every episode, too.

But yes, I agree that it's a generally impractical approach. Still, it's all in good fun.
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Heh, well, I've written out blurbs for every episode, too.

But yes, I agree that it's a generally impractical approach. Still, it's all in good fun.


Yeah, it just made me scratch my head. It's hard enough to write a single TV script that has to fit into a tight, season-long story.

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Yeah, the first Dune was terrible for that...Not necessarily the Princess bit, but it conveyed the characters' thoughts through the whole movie. It  tried to be too much like a book (that said, the design was still badass. Still one of the coolest looking films).

 

I still like the default Shep's origins. Earthborn/ghetto kid. I kind of imagine him not just being a fighter, but learning something like Parkour in the city he grew up in. Sole Survivor... he learned to survive like a Krogan. Multiple thresher maws on foot. This makes Grunt's rite of passage all the more cool... with the human teaching him the ropes.

Agreed! The set designs in Dune were brilliant.  No movie has ever topped the interiors and costume design...at least in terms of creating a truly unique futuristic setting. My favorite was the interior of the Atreides home...the walls were so cool looking!  And the emporer's golden throne room…it looked like stalagtites covered in gold…which echoed the whole tone of the book beautifully. I get so sick of everything being either bright white minimilism (e.g. like the new Star Trek films) or dark grey and post-apocalyptic.  It was a masterpiece in that regards (although Sting's blue undies were a bit much :P )

 

I wonder how mass effect would look on film.  I personally preferred the art design of the first game, both in terms of armor and setting.  ME2 had a few cool things as well, but I loved the citadel in ME1. But…I would love to see a movie set of Tuchanka from ME3.  The trucks and the architecture with the shroud in the distance.  And the Salarian base was pretty cool too.  I would be happy to see a film of any aspect of the series just to check out the art design! 

 

And showing Shepherd growing up on earth would be a cool intro...he could have been a kid during the first contact war...so the exposition could be done by  showing him  fighting other kids amidst protests in the streets against aliens and people going to war against the turians and news broadcasts in the background, etc.  It could be done in a good 10-15 minute sequence to get newbies oriented and set the stage for the actual story. 

 

I never thought Watchmen could be a film, but they did a good job with that.  If done right, any amount of story can fit into a film, I think.  It just takes a bit of...finesse.



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Heh, well, I've written out blurbs for every episode, too.

But yes, I agree that it's a generally impractical approach. Still, it's all in good fun.

You should post them!  I love stuff like that! :D


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I would also go for a high quality live action tv series (effect-wise on the level with productions like BSG, story-wise maybe inspired by stuff like Firefly)

 

I'd also make it about a new ship and a new crew, definitely not a reproduction of the games. There could be cool cameos though, but only from characters where the voice actor from the game can also play the role (e.g. Joker).

 

Would I be in it? Well, I am not an actor, so I guess not, although if I were the producer, I'd sneak in a cameo as Capt. Fob. :D



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You should post them!  I love stuff like that! :D

 

Cool, I'll have to transcribe them though so give me some time. :) I wrote them all out in notebooks during my commutes to school two semesters ago.


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I'd also love to read what you have Jeff!



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Oh, are we sharing our TV series pitches? Here's mine from September. Got a far better reception than I'd anticipated.

http://forum.bioware...evision-series/

Season 1: Trial by Fire (First Year)

01. Chosen
02. Spectres
03. Rough Tides
04. Dr. T'Soni, I Presume
05. Vis a Vis
06. Visitors From Down the Street
07. Armstrong
<Snippy Snip!> :P

Some really good stuff there Jeff! :D



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It'd be an episodic thing about a group of mercenaries in the Terminus Systems, operating congruently with the Shepard Trilogy. You witness this group survive the harshness of the Terminus while the world slowly goes to ****. The series deliberately would end on a cliffhanger with the arrival of the Reapers.

That's all I got so far. Dunno the cast, who would play who, none of that nonesense. I'm an idea man, not a producer writer, caser, sound person (Whooosh!)



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Whether the next big adaptation be a movie, book or TV show everything after ME1 needs to change massively. The only change I'd make to the ME1 plot is that the real conduit is never actually found on Ilos so Saren uses the Prothean prototype relay as a backup plan to get to the citadel in a last ditch move to open a makeshift portal to dark space. The proto-relay was built to stop the reapers isolating the network via the citadel so only reaper ships can pass through.

The real conduit was the Reaper's original relay to the center of the galaxy which the last Protheans destroyed. Between ME1 and ME2 agents of the reapers have converted the Omega relay to a second conduit which is why Collectors have started appearing through it and it no longer links up to the rest of the relay network.

Cerberus grow curious about it and the missing colonists so they put together their own crew lead by Jacob and Miranda to open pandora's box. The Normandy crew is in a race against time to stop the cerberus agents reaching the conduit, to uncover the truth about the missing colonists and the Illusive Man's plans. When Jacob and Miranda and the Cerberus crew find out that the Illusive Man is using them to find/acquire himself a Reaper factory they join forces with the original normandy crew to destroy the "collector homeworld"; aka the Alpha Relay portal to dark space Sovereign was attempting to reach in the first place.

Gaining the trust of the Geth in ME2 is pinnacle because the Geth are the key to defeating the reapers in ME3. Shepard and Liara discover aboard the Normandy that the Shadow Broker is an alias of the Geth which they use to trade with, influence and study us. They developed along their own path and have silently surpassed organics by thousands of years and are technologically and militarily capable of defeating the reapers which is why the Reapers have always sought to enslave them. Only the Quarians (with the military help of the rest of the organics) are capable of restoring free will to the Geth in a suicide mission on Rannoch. With the Geth armada restored the galaxy defeats the Reapers in their last stand in a space battle for the citadel which the reapers have rigged with the crucible to husk-ify/indoctrinate the entire galaxy in one fell swoop as their last failsafe backup plan now that the Reapers have lost control of the synthetics.

Sanctuary is the Illusive Man's backup plan after he is foiled at the end of ME2 and it is here he becomes indoctrinated. The Reapers learn of the crucible blueprints on Mars through him. The Illusive Man is the final antagonist (taking the place of the Catalyst); he attempts to reason with shepard about the risks of synthetics and the benefits of synthesis before you convince him to commit suicide and disarm the device.

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I think a movie would be a terrible idea, especially if it tried to stay true to the Shepard trilogy. Too many gamers know Mass Effect and the film would be divisive, especially if they got to the ending of the trilogy. Not to mention, Hollywood would have to cut out a lot of the dialogue to get straight to the action for a typical 2hr 30min popcorn action flick. A much better solution would be to take the Game of Thrones approach by going to HBO. This would give the writers more time to actually flesh out and build characters, which is the most important part of any BioWare story. I think it's also incredibly important to actually flesh out the world more and explain to those who've never played a Mass Effect game why it's worth their time.

 

This would also allow the writers to tell the story of Mass Effect from a wide variety of angles instead of just Shepard's tale. Ever wanted to see more of Saren's point of view? Anderson? Udina? The Council? Matriach Benezia? Aria? Harbinger? The Illusive Man? This would be a way to build and expand on the universe without constricting it to a short, 3-part act. It would allow for an experience showing a large variety of perspectives, giving varying flares of political intrigue, humor, drama, relationships, and obstacles to overcome at major events. It's also just a great mechanism for world building and really planning out the universe, which would be crucial for old and new fans as well as lasting longevity.

 

Long story short, Mass Effect has a lot of amazing material. Don't ruin it by condensing it into a Hollywood film. Build the brand and create an engrossing experience for the next five years like Game of Thrones is doing.


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Shockingly, I agree with Revan Reborn on this one. I don't think condensing Mass Effect into a film would really work. A TV series might work, though honestly I'd prefer they approached the Mass Effect universe from a new angle rather than rehash Shepard's story.

Now, I have some ideas for a dragon age spinoff anime, but that's for another time and another thread.

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I think a movie would be a terrible idea, especially if it tried to stay true to the Shepard trilogy. Too many gamers know Mass Effect and the film would be divisive, especially if they got to the ending of the trilogy. Not to mention, Hollywood would have to cut out a lot of the dialogue to get straight to the action for a typical 2hr 30min popcorn action flick. A much better solution would be to take the Game of Thrones approach by going to HBO. This would give the writers more time to actually flesh out and build characters, which is the most important part of any BioWare story. I think it's also incredibly important to actually flesh out the world more and explain to those who've never played a Mass Effect game why it's worth their time.

 

This would also allow the writers to tell the story of Mass Effect from a wide variety of angles instead of just Shepard's tale. Ever wanted to see more of Saren's point of view? Anderson? Udina? The Council? Matriach Benezia? Aria? Harbinger? The Illusive Man? This would be a way to build and expand on the universe without constricting it to a short, 3-part act. It would allow for an experience showing a large variety of perspectives, giving varying flares of political intrigue, humor, drama, relationships, and obstacles to overcome at major events. It's also just a great mechanism for world building and really planning out the universe, which would be crucial for old and new fans as well as lasting longevity.

 

Long story short, Mass Effect has a lot of amazing material. Don't ruin it by condensing it into a Hollywood film. Build the brand and create an engrossing experience for the next five years like Game of Thrones is doing.

I think the time has come!  :wizard: 

 

My younger brother has always called me a nerd for reading fantasy and sci fi...he likes actions flicks with cops and soldiers, etc.  But he LOVES Game of Thrones, which is basically a fantasy soap opera.

 

Point is...it is time for a cool sci-fi drama! Battlestar Gallactica kinda filled the void for a while (even though twas a reboot), but it is long gone now. A deep drama set in the ME universe would be wicked and would likely gain a lot of followers if done well.


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I think the time has come!  :wizard:

 

My younger brother has always called me a nerd for reading fantasy and sci fi...he likes actions flicks with cops and soldiers, etc.  But he LOVES Game of Thrones, which is basically a fantasy soap opera.

 

Point is...it is time for a cool sci-fi drama! Battlestar Gallactica kinda filled the void for a while (even though twas a reboot), but it is long gone now. A deep drama set in the ME universe would be wicked and would likely gain a lot of followers if done well.

Exactly. A space soap opera from a variety of different perspectives providing something for everybody. One of the reasons I believe Game of Thrones is so incredibly appealing for some is because of how grounded it is in realism. Yes, there is some semblance of magic and there are dragons, but it's largely based in something people can relate to. I think Mass Effect is similar with respect to realism as much of what occurs can be explained through science (disregarding reaper tech).

 

Make these characters real. Give them true motivation and aspirations. We don't need another Star Wars or another Star Trek. Mass Effect has the potential to be something very different if BioWare were willing to go in that direction.


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Make these characters real. Give them true motivation and aspirations. We don't need another Star Wars or another Star Trek. Mass Effect has the potential to be something very different if BioWare were willing to go in that direction.

 

I think DS9 accomplished this too, so I'd include Trek as well. Since it was on a station, it was more character based and had continuing storyarcs about the politics and such. [edit] In fact, I think the same guy who was responsible for it was the one who rebooted BSG.

 

Surprisingly, the Clone Wars series showed me how multlayered Star Wars could be too. Lots of factions and political angles in that. Mass Effect has these things, but they don't really tap into it. Most of the story focuses on the Reapers. Just like Dragon Age... DAI disappointed me, because they built up all of these cool conflicts in DA2 and the novels, only to resolve it with another world ending crisis and Jesus figure. Everyone just gets along, because there's a Big Bad to unite against. I'm getting tired of that. 


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A TV series like Game of Thrones,The Walking Dead or Breaking Bad would be much,much better then a movie.



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I would rather see a loosely based film of the trilogy than a TV Series. 



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A big point which a lot of you are forgetting is that a movie series doesn't necessarily have to be a trilogy. Unless HBO pick it up I have major reservations about a TV adaptation even by AMC or Showtime as the writing might be good but the production values would probably blow big time and at the other end of the spectrum if it got picked up by FOX you'd probably have the opposite problem as they attempt to reach a broader audience to pay for the added production values and end up with a made for TV movie painfully prolonged for years.