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[dixophilia]

My experience was similar to CruZContr0L's.

 

I adored how nuanced I was able to make my Inquisitors.

 

I love that my female mage Adaar could express that she may not have been a believer in the Maker or Andraste, but that she respected the Chantry--and other religions--all the same. I liked that Cassandra remarked that she would be remembered as a funny Qunari and that she could confess to making things up as she went. I found it hilarious that I could have Adaar admit to Sera that she was afraid of all spiders, even the little one's. There were just so many aspects of her person that I was able to explore.

 

Where my Adaar had patience, my Lavellan had none. Where my Lavellan fought for changes in regard to mages and Elves, my Trevelyan was a traditional and pro-circle mage who sides with the Templars. I even had a Qunari warrior who was a devout Andrastian who wanted to believe he was chosen but held a lot of doubt. When he found how the anchor was a misfired spell, he was crushed and angry. It was great that I was able to have so many different Inquisitors.

[Cha0sEff3ct]

And I personally just love walking into every single area and having everyone address me as "Your Worship".

[Cha0sEff3ct]

@Jaquio:  The funny thing is that it's called "diplomatic" - but in reality, that's the demeanor of a leader.  "Snarky" and "A-hole" are not demeanors of leaders - people don't follow people like that.  There's a difference between a cruel tyrant and the douchecanoes that are cruel Warden and Hawke.  

Exactly!

 

And if people want even more over the top douchiness they can play the Fable games, especially Fable 1. That's a good game for being a complete douche. Kill all the rest of the heroes, have whole towns scared of you, physically transform into a monstrous entity, grow horns and greying skin, while roaches and maggots crawl at your feet. After you've killed everything what are you left with? It's fun to a point.

 

My experience was similar to CruZContr0L's.

 

I adored how nuanced I was able to make my Inquisitors.

 

I love that my female mage Adaar could express that she may not have been a believer in the Maker or Andraste, but that she respected the Chantry--and other religions--all the same. I liked that Cassandra remarked that she would be remembered as a funny Qunari and that she could confess to making things up as she went. I found it hilarious that I could have Adaar admit to Sera that she was afraid of all spiders, even the little one's. There were just so many aspects of her person that I was able to explore.

 

Where my Adaar had patience, my Lavellan had none. Where my Lavellan fought for changes in regard to mages and Elves, my Trevelyan was a traditional and pro-circle mage who sides with the Templars. I even had a Qunari warrior who was a devout Andrastian who wanted to believe he was chosen but held  a lot of doubt. When he found how the anchor was a misfired spell, he was crushed and angry. It was great that I was able to have so many different Inquisitors.

I love these and constantly love coming across all the different ways people have played their quizzies. These are awesome stories!

[dixophilia]

I love these and constantly love coming across all the different ways people have played their quizzies. These are awesome stories!

Thanks! I'd love to hear about your Inquisitor(s) too, if you're up for it.

 

It's pretty amazing, honestly. I've talked to so many people about their Inquisitors and they are almost all unique--and a lot of it isn't even limited to headcanon. These are things you can express in-game. That's a testament to the freedom BioWare tried to provide for the PC.

 

I mean, there are always things that can be improved on--nothing is without fault after all. But I think the work they put into this really shows.

[Jaquio]

@Jaquio:  The funny thing is that it's called "diplomatic" - but in reality, that's the demeanor of a leader.  "Snarky" and "A-hole" are not demeanors of leaders - people don't follow people like that.  There's a difference between a cruel tyrant and the douchecanoes that are cruel Warden and Hawke.  

 

History is littered with examples to the contrary.  Especially given the fact that the Quiz fell in to power by walking out of an explosion.  He didn't petition for it, or run for office, he just fell out of a fiery hole.

 

The threads of history are full of mad kings and brutal tyrants who ruled for long period of time in nefarious reigns.  I don't really have much interest in playing that, but the assumption that all people who aspire to and succeed at becoming leaders are diplomatic and work towards the common good is fundamentally flawed.  And the assumption that people will rise up against brutal tyrants because they don't like it is equally flawed.

 

Exactly!

 

And if people want even more over the top douchiness they can play the Fable games, especially Fable 1. That's a good game for being a complete douche. Kill all the rest of the heroes, have whole towns scared of you, physically transform into a monstrous entity, grow horns and greying skin, while roaches and maggots crawl at your feet. After you've killed everything what are you left with? It's fun to a point.

 

Once again, I have no interest in playing like a lunatic, but I'm not going to say "play this role-playing game in X way, and if you don't want to, play a different game."

 

The entire purpose of a role playing game is to let people explore different characters and how they interact with the world environment.  Neither you nor I have the authority to tell people what the right and wrong way to play is.

[Medhia_Nox]

@jaquio:  I'm sure, throughout history, there are a handful of "mad tyrants" that had long reigns... but you'll have to provide me proof of them being a "norm" as you suggest. 

 

Bad Roman emperors had notoriously short lifespans... as had any tyrant kind.

 

The point is... even "tyrants" have to be diplomatic with their people.  Alexander the Great was the douchiest of all... but his people loved him and he was worthy of that love because of how he treated them.  They were shamed by his heroics into following him at many points throughout his history.  But even he might have been poisoned because he stopped being diplomatic at the end of his reign (and became "too eastern") 

 

Also - I'm not sure we played the same game.  My Inquisitor was elected into his position because he proved to be a capable leader.  There's cutscenes and everything. 

[Phoe77]

You also have to consider that the Inquisition started out as a relatively powerless and insignificant faction.  Josephine even at one point comments that it is the alliances that have been made that give the Inquisition it's power and legitimacy.  If those alliances and the goodwill associated with them were to disappear, the Inquisition would have been in big trouble.  The Inquisitor does not have the benefit of assuming control of a pre-established power structure like a roman emperor or a medieval king would.  

[wright1978]

And I personally just love walking into every single area and having everyone address me as "Your Worship".

 

I wanted to beat Harding to death after about the 2nd time.

[Medhia_Nox]

@Phoe77:  If I criticized Inquisition for one thing I think it would be the feeling that there was no chance to lose support.  Of course, then I'd have to accuse DA:O and ME of the same things (and honestly, every cRPG - since none have ever made me worry about losing).

 

But DA:I was about building a new faction... and I would have hoped they would have added ways to lose support, maintain support and grow support.  I believe this was originally part of the design - but for whatever reason it was scrapped.

 

Then I would have totally supported the addition of snarky and a-hole Inquisitors who... after throwing their imbecilic attitudes around found that nobody would ally with them and that Corypheus roflstomped them in the end.  

[Phoe77]

I agree.  It would have been very neat to see the Inquisition succeed or fail based on how the Inquisitor conducted himself  and how he directed his forces through the war table.  I think that the ability to be irresponsible or irreverent or openly hostile would feel very superficial if those behaviors weren't reflected in the way the plot unfolds.

[Han Shot First]

I thought the personality and voice acting was good. Where the Inquisitor falls short in my opinion is with backstory. The Inquisitor has by far the most bare bones backstory of all DA protagonists.

[BansheeOwnage]

Tired of people saying anyone with any criticism of the Inquisitor's character has no imagination...

[BansheeOwnage]

I agree.  It would have been very neat to see the Inquisition succeed or fail based on how the Inquisitor conducted himself  and how he directed his forces through the war table.  I think that the ability to be irresponsible or irreverent or openly hostile would feel very superficial if those behaviors weren't reflected in the way the plot unfolds.

Well, I thought that could happen. The whole "Lead them or fall" tagline and all... But we can't fall.

[Nhadalie]

I like the Inquisitor, but when compared with the Warden and Hawke, his/her personality falls a little flat. The Quizzy has some good lines, but no great lines. When I go to youtube for funny moments about Inquisition, I go looking for lines from the companions, not the Quizzy. On the other hand, there are videos full of great lines from both the Warden and Hawke. The humor in the Quizzy's lines is much more subtle than past games. Which some people like, some people don't. Personally, I'd like it somewhere inbetween. It doesn't have to be as silly as sarcastic Hawke, but I'd prefer it not to be quite as dry as it is. And I normally like dry humor.

 

I guess you could say I'm in the middle? I like the Quizzy, but I think he/she could use a touch more personality. Just a little.

[BansheeOwnage]

I like the Inquisitor, but when compared with the Warden and Hawke, his/her personality falls a little flat. The Quizzy has some good lines, but no great lines. When I go to youtube for funny moments about Inquisition, I go looking for lines from the companions, not the Quizzy. On the other hand, there are videos full of great lines from both the Warden and Hawke. The humor in the Quizzy's lines is much more subtle than past games. Which some people like, some people don't. Personally, I'd like it somewhere inbetween. It doesn't have to be as silly as sarcastic Hawke, but I'd prefer it not to be quite as dry as it is. And I normally like dry humor.

 

I guess you could say I'm in the middle? I like the Quizzy, but I think he/she could use a touch more personality. Just a little.

You summed up my thoughts perfectly. You can find youtube videos of just Hawke's best lines, and they're 10 minutes long, but when I tried to think of memorable lines (funny or otherwise) for the Inquisitor, I could only think of a few.

[Nhadalie]

You summed up my thoughts perfectly. You can find youtube videos of just Hawke's best lines, and they're 10 minutes long, but when I tried to think of memorable lines (funny or otherwise) for the Inquisitor, I could only think of a few.

Yeah, that's really my biggest issue. They both had such great lines. And then comes Inquisition, and I'd much rather listen to any of the companions' lines than the Quizzy's. There were perfect set ups for the Quizzy to say something, especially during the companion banters. But they didn't put anything there. They could've done a similar thing to Hawke's reactions to banter in legacy, reactions based on the dialogue type you use most. Hawke had great moments like that in legacy.

 

For some examples: Blackwall talking about the cheese rolling contests in one of the places the Quizzy could be from, or the jousting conversations. And Varric never once mentioned writing about the Quizzy, even though it could be inferred that he was because of his conversations with Blackwall. A mage Quizzy might have had a chance at understanding Solas and Cole when they were talking.

 

Of course, some of these are very specific examples, and it could've been difficult to put in with everything else they did. All things considered, I really enjoy Inquisition. Is the Quizzy my favorite protagonist? No. But I do like my Quizzy, and I may have mental fanfiction about how I think she would handle things in specific scenarios.

[Miss Golightly]

The only shortcoming I found with my Inquisitor was that she had no real back story. I didn't care about her as much as I cared about my Wardens or my Hawkes because I really didn't know who she was before the Conclave. 

[Medhia_Nox]

@BansheeOwnage:  But if we could fall - these boards would be filled with whining gamers about how their favorite way to play was "judged" and how evil and wrong it is to judge someone... and how being an a-hole is always the most "pragmatic" choice and should lead to awesome victories - blah blah angsty angst blah. 

[XEternalXDreamsX]

Overall, I am satisfied with the protagonist. Our beliefs can influence the stance and reactions of our companions. If only they would have more story points like in the "side quest" modules (Ex. - Emerald Graves, Hissing Wastes, ect), to flesh out our character's personality, stance on situations, and reactions.

Like the Exhalted Plains could have fleshed out the conflict with Gaspard and Celene, our protagonist could have decision points and all. WEWH could open up after the main quest in Exhalted Plains was completed so that it felt connected somehow.

I'm not saying our protagonist was perfect, the game definitely had opportunities to grow our character but they didn't take it.

[BansheeOwnage]

Yeah, that's really my biggest issue. They both had such great lines. And then comes Inquisition, and I'd much rather listen to any of the companions' lines than the Quizzy's. There were perfect set ups for the Quizzy to say something, especially during the companion banters. But they didn't put anything there. They could've done a similar thing to Hawke's reactions to banter in legacy, reactions based on the dialogue type you use most. Hawke had great moments like that in legacy.

 

For some examples: Blackwall talking about the cheese rolling contests in one of the places the Quizzy could be from, or the jousting conversations. And Varric never once mentioned writing about the Quizzy, even though it could be inferred that he was because of his conversations with Blackwall. A mage Quizzy might have had a chance at understanding Solas and Cole when they were talking.

 

Of course, some of these are very specific examples, and it could've been difficult to put in with everything else they did. All things considered, I really enjoy Inquisition. Is the Quizzy my favorite protagonist? No. But I do like my Quizzy, and I may have mental fanfiction about how I think she would handle things in specific scenarios.

The funny part is they don't even need auto-dialogue. Remember that ingame sometimes you actually can participate in banter? I understand if you don't remember though, since it's so rare! You click the stick (on console) and you get 3 options to choose from. Like when Dorian and Varric are taking bets on if you'll win. Those moments are awesome, I just wish there were a lot more! Especially because I was looking forward to that before the game came out.

 

Now, expand the current option to make use of the dialogue perks etc. (just like how in normal conversations they appear on the left along with the "Special" star options) and you could indeed talk to Cole and Solas about magic, if you had the Arcane Knowledge perk. Using those perks was actually very satisfying. It made my Inquisitor feel less like she new nothing about anything, and instead provided thoughtful insight. So that helps her personality, actually; making her feel a bit less than a blank slate. I enjoyed talking about the magic of the well to Morrigan (as a rogue no less) and she's like "Wait, you know stuff too? How is this possible?!"

[BansheeOwnage]

@BansheeOwnage:  But if we could fall - these boards would be filled with whining gamers about how their favorite way to play was "judged" and how evil and wrong it is to judge someone... and how being an a-hole is always the most "pragmatic" choice and should lead to awesome victories - blah blah angsty angst blah. 

It doesn't have to be based on those things alone though, or even at all. You could have bad endings in ME2/3, but not because you liked to be a jerk. It had to do with amassing forces and how you deployed them, etc. What that tag-line said to me was that you could have a bad ending of some sort, somehow, and that there would be more danger of dying or having other characters die. There isn't any of that though. That's all I'm saying.

[KaiserShep]

I do wish the dialogue perks were used more often. I rather enjoy having a more educated PC.

[BansheeOwnage]

I do wish the dialogue perks were used more often. I rather enjoy having a more educated PC.

Me too. I want my next protagonist to be an extremely clever and knowledgeable geek

[KaiserShep]

Likewise. Dialogue perks/persuasion is always my priority when building my characters.

[Ashagar]

Honestly I liked the Inquisitor, it was refreshing after Hawke to play someone who had a stable somewhat consistent personality instead of being bipolar enough at times that Caligula would look at them funny and the Inquisitor fit perfectly with the sort of Story of Inquisition had.