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[CDR Aedan Cousland]

Also, this thread isn't... I dunno, advocating for more options for straight guys only, or something along the lines of that. I was just pointing out how the imbalance was odd to me. I only play as gay men and lesbian women, so having more straight options for women or men makes no difference to me personally. I just don't like inequality of the sexes (especially player character's sex) in my vidya. In my opinion, only Dorian and Josie were good, solid choices out of the two whole (wow!) same-sex options we had per gender. You'd think since they realized the average straight woman wouldn't go for IB any more than she'd go for Beardy, that having IB as the only other option for a gay male Inquisitor wouldn't be that great. I also don't think Sera's a better option than IB, and the only thing Josie really lacks is comparable content.

 

If only Harding was an actual LI. I'm personally thinking they made her as a teaser for a full romance option in the next installment, but you never know. It just doesn't seem fair that the only potential way to flesh her out as a full romance would be with a DLC, not to mention that in the base game she'd likely be just as content-less.

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

Vick, seek therapy.

[Grieving Natashina]

True enough! I felt bad about how Jacob was handled because I think he's a really likeable character, more so than Kaidan. Him leaving fem-Shep (and accidentally knocking up a lady he's only been seeing for a few months) seems very out of character for a moral guy like him. They should have just made him and his new girlfriend a thing for a man-Shep and unromanced fem-Shep. They could have figured out how to make it work. Thane's romance was a stupid idea anyway, so I can't offer any sympathy to the women who romanced him, lol. They should have just not given him a terminal illness (and a dead wife--another reason why I think that romance is selfish on fem-Shep's part), that way he'd work out just like Miranda and Jack do for a man-Shep: They're there, their romances can be rekindled, but they can't come along with you because of reasons.

 

If they stop having equal choices from now on, I'm still hoping they'll do a back-and-forth thing from game to game.

The dead wife syndrome is something they can leave out of any newer BioWare games.  Thane was a double whammy and one that I wouldn't want to see return for either gender (or any sexuality; Steve Cortez is awesome but a gender flipped version of this.)   To be 100% honest, I'd rather see the lesbians and gay players get an extra option next time.  I do like your idea of some games having more LI options for some groups.  

 

For the record, Bull is my favorite romance.  His looks aren't too my taste at all, but his personality and his sense of humor are.  Personally, I think Cullen is too squeaky clean (even though it is a good romance); Sera is too immature; Josie is too innocent; Blackwall is Rainer.  

 

As far as a romance DLC goes, I honestly wouldn't bank it on for any non-adviser or party member.  So I could see the current crop including Josie and Cullen getting some more content, but I can't see it happening for Harding.  My theory is that I think Harding is going to be in the next game as a fully-fledged party member and will be a LI from there.  If they add any romance content in a DA:I DLC, it would probably just go to expanding the existing romances, not to "flesh out" Harding's.  

[AresKeith]

Vick, seek therapy.

 

therapy and a real girlfriend 

[carlo angelo]

I had no complaints after playing Inquisition in regards to the romances.

 

I just wish there was more content towards the characters and that they were drawn out more- separated by a three act structure like in DAII. Like, you can only do this certain character story arc when you finish the first part of the game, and so on.

 

I liked Dorian. I've yet to do a second playthrough, so I can't say about the romances for any other character, but I enjoyed their stories enough.

[midnight tea]

Dead serious.

 

There needs to be a strong straight male gamer presence on this board.  Someone who is not afraid to speak their mind.

 

Yes, because strong, straight males are soooooo vastly underrepresented in games, be it Bioware's or in general.... Yeah, this is NOT serious.

[VickVeel]

Vick, seek therapy.

 

If by therapy you mean Dragon Age Origins. I agree. When I play DAO I experience no frustrations what so ever. 

 

I've never experienced any frustration over any Bioware game except Dragon Age Inquisition. That has got to mean something.

[carlo angelo]

...Anyway.

 

I'm actually for reducing the number from eight to six romances (two heterosexual, two homosexual, two bisexual, either sex each), and just focusing on the quality of the story and character.

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

That's fine, Vick, but trolling forums isn't going to make you feel any better, nor is it going to change anything for you. If you're lucky, maybe the next installment will have more options of women for you, with varying levels of femininity, and perhaps even mod support. Won't hold my breath for the latter, though.

[AresKeith]

...Anyway.

 

I'm actually for reducing the number from eight to six romances (two heterosexual, two homosexual, two bisexual, either sex each), and just focusing on the quality of the story and character.

 

Yea, 6 romances (2/2/2) does seem like a better route

 

If had to do it in DAI I would've replaced Blackwall with Cullen as a core romance 

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

...Anyway.

 

I'm actually for reducing the number from eight to six romances (two heterosexual, two homosexual, two bisexual, either sex each), and just focusing on the quality of the story and character.

 

I'll be 100% for that, as long as all the choices are good, rather than only half.

[Grieving Natashina]

...Anyway.

 

I'm actually for reducing the number from eight to six romances (two heterosexual, two homosexual, two bisexual, either sex each), and just focusing on the quality of the story and character.

I don't mind either way.  It really comes down to the quality for me.   Just taking a guess, but they'll probably keep it between 6-8.  I think it depends upon also if the writers feel that those romances would be good.  They've stated that they have no interests in adding romance just for the sake of numbers, so I'm happy to let them dictate.  I would enjoy having a bi-romantic ace LI in the next game, for a change of pace.

 

 Personally, I find myself getting into a rut with my romances, in both ME and DA.  I had to force myself not to romance Garrus so I could try the Kaidan romance this time; I liked being Queen a little too much with Alistair; and I kept doing either Anders or Isabela's romances in DA2.  I started to do that with DA:I, but since Solas looks interesting (and heartbreaking,) I'm busting out of my LI comfort zone to try that romance out.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I would prefer eight romances rather than six, but have it be 2/4/2 as available to opposite sex/available to both sexes/available to same sex. Also I would like one or two of the 4 to explore more minor sexualities, like The Iron Bull did with pansexuality. 

[Grieving Natashina]

I can't click on Vick's profile anymore.  He's gone.  

[carlo angelo]

I'll be 100% for that, as long as all the choices are good, rather than only half.

 

Then we get to another conundrum, which is to define "good", see. To make them more appealing? I don't mind- it's all in the delivery. If it means a knight in shining armour of sorts, heck yeah, but it's all in the delivery. But if they're "unconventional" and "different", as some were saying about Inquisition choices? Sure, it's just all in the delivery. It's all in how it's written. I didn't find Dorian particularly attractive, not at first, but I warmed up to his character.

 

But yeah, I'm not a great person to ask because a lot of things Bioware has written, I've been happy with (luckily enough, I suppose?).

 

I don't mind either way.  It really comes down to the quality for me.   Just taking a guess, but they'll probably keep it between 6-8.  I think it depends upon also if the writers feel that those romances would be good.  They've stated that they have no interests in adding romance just for the sake of numbers, so I'm happy to let them dictate.  I would enjoy having a bi-romantic ace LI in the next game, for a change of pace.

 

 Personally, I find myself getting into a rut with my romances, in both ME and DA.  I had to force myself not to romance Garrus so I could try the Kaidan romance this time; I liked being Queen a little too much with Alistair; and I kept doing either Anders or Isabela's romances in DA2.  I started to do that with DA:I, but since Solas looks interesting (and heartbreaking,) I'm busting out of my LI comfort zone to try that romance out.

 

Ah yes. I was just thinking if it were an "either or" situation- which it doesn't need to be. Hell, they could make it nine, and straight female players (or bisexual female players who pick certain races) could get the monopoly on romances again, and yeah, like you said, as long as they're well written.

 

I'm starting a second playthrough and seeing how Iron Bull rolls for myself this time.

[Grieving Natashina]

Ah yes. I was just thinking if it were an "either or" situation- which it doesn't need to be. Hell, they could make it nine, and straight female players (or bisexual female players who pick certain races) could get the monopoly on romances again, and yeah, like you said, as long as they're well written.

 

I'm starting a second playthrough and seeing how Iron Bull rolls for myself this time.

I'd like to give a couple of non-spoilery tips for you.  f you do Bull's romance, make sure to save a Dragon's Tooth.   Also, you won't be 100% locked into the romance with him until after his personal quest.  If you decide to keep him as part of the Qun, it will not stop the romance.  

 

Nine might be just too much for me.  I don't want the number of romances to become so large that it overshadows the friendships.  Long before I played a BW game with a LI I liked, it was the friendships that drew me into the company.  Daelon Red Tiger (NWN) is one of the greatest RPG companions in video game history, and he was never a LI option.  I loved that friendship arc though.

[Gothfather]

Apologies if a thread like this was already made once upon a time.

 

Why do female Inquisitors have six romance options (negating race-gating) to choose from, while male Inquisitors have only four?

 

Is it because of the whole "Cullen and Egg were initially going to be bisexual" thing, but when Bioware pansied out of it/"didn't have enough time," they didn't realize that now there's an unbalanced amount of potential LI's per sex?

 

Females have Josie, Ser-ugh, Irritable Bowel IB, Beardy, Egg, and Cullen. That's six.

 

Males have Dorian ( ), Cassie, Josie, and IB. That's four. And I'm not counting Harding for obvious reasons, but even if I did, females would still have two more options than men do.

 

I understand that had Bioware not backed out (like a punk) of making Cullen and Egg romanceable to men, a lot of players would be fanny-troubled over having more gay options for their men than straight, but still. (As an unnecessary aside: I would be quite happy, as I always play gay heroes anyway. Well, I'd be happy to have Cullen, not so much Egg, but at least I have Dorian. If IB was the only male romance option for my Inquisitor, he would be a very sad and lonely man. Much like my poor Aedan was pre-Awakening.)

 

So, um, anyway... opinions?

 

PS: Sorry if I slandered your chosen romances' "good names," but... Well, no, actually that's about all I've got. And I'm not really even that sorry, tee-hee!

I think this deserves only one response...

 

"I am Groot"

[carlo angelo]

I'd like to give a couple of non-spoilery tips for you.  f you do Bull's romance, make save a Dragon's Tooth.   Also, you won't be 100% locked into the romance with him until after his personal quest.  If you decide to keep him as part of the Qun, it will not stop the romance.  

 

Nine might be just too much for me.  I don't want the number of romances to become so large that it overshadows the friendships.  Long before I played a BW game with a LI I liked, it was the friendships that drew me into the company.  Daelon Red Tiger (NWN) is one of the greatest RPG companions in video game history, and he was never a LI option.  I loved that friendship arc though.

 

Damnit. I'm gonna have to slay dragons as a rogue instead of as a Knight Enchanter like my first playthrough. And I've painted myself into a corner for only picking mages up until this point, so fighting will take some getting used to.

 

Nine's pushing it, yes, I agree. That's another thing, is that aside from romance arcs, I'd also like to see more indepth friendships in the next installment.

[Grieving Natashina]

Damnit. I'm gonna have to slay dragons as a rogue instead of as a Knight Enchanter like my first playthrough. And I've painted myself into a corner for only picking mages up until this point, so fighting will take some getting used to.

 

Nine's pushing it, yes, I agree. That's another thing, is that aside from romance arcs, I'd also like to see more indepth friendships in the next installment.

Sorry for the off-topic, but I'd recommend going archer with stealth as a secondary ability if you haven't already.  I enjoyed Assassin as a specialization but Tempest is pretty disgusting too.  For the end game, this is the bow I made: http://imgur.com/a/hTdwe

[BansheeOwnage]

therapy and a real girlfriend 

I dunno, I'm not sure what his would-be girlfriend would have to endure would be worth the potential lesson he might learn Not to mention he probably wouldn't learn any lessons. Best stay single.

[BansheeOwnage]

 

I'll grant you that the DA series is better than the ME series in terms of balance.  Everyone got 2/2/2 for DA:O and even though I don't like Sebastian, he does count so that's 2/3/2. 

Thanks for the list Natashina, I didn't want to have to find the chart someone made. A couple things though:

 

If you count the horrible Diana Allers, it's actually 10 for straight men and 5 for women in the series. Also, I'm just confused about the numbers I quoted. What is the third number? If you mean everyone had 2 options in DA:O, that's incorrect; homosexuals only got 1 option, and as I like to say, one option isn't really an option.

[AresKeith]

 

I'll grant you that the DA series is better than the ME series in terms of balance.  Everyone got 2/2/2 for DA:O and even though I don't like Sebastian, he does count so that's 2/3/2.  

 

Actually DAO was 2/2/1/1

[BansheeOwnage]

Actually DAO was 2/2/1/1

Yeah, I wasn't sure if she misremembered or if I misunderstood.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Actually DAO was 2/2/1/1

2/2/1/1/0 if you count sexualities not of the big three. 

[BansheeOwnage]

2/2/1/1/0 if you count sexualities not of the big three. 

Are you referring to romantic-asexuality?