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[Char]

I played the ME series for the first time last spring.  I thankfully did know about the romance options, and a few other details like Virmire and being careful with my squad choice for the SM.  At least one of the LIs in ME2 I wasn't interested in, but that's due to a personal hangup of mine.  Jacob is the name of my youngest brother, a family name and there's no way I could romance someone called by that.  Call me petty.  

I just couldn't handle my FemSheps animations and voice when speaking to him. And I was uncomfortable with the idea of blatantly flirting with Thane straight after him opening up about his dead wife too. So, it was always going to be Garrus either way for me though I was a bit disappointed to find that Jack and Tali weren't interested in FemShep.

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

I played the ME series for the first time last spring.  I thankfully did know about the romance options, and a few other details like Virmire and being careful with my squad choice for the SM.  At least one of the LIs in ME2 I wasn't interested in, but that's due to a personal hangup of mine.  Jacob is the name of my youngest brother, a family name and there's no way I could romance someone called by that.  Call me petty.  

 

I understand completely. Besides never playing straight characters, I can't romance Cassie because she looks like my oldest sister.

[Panda]

Last I heard BioWare speak on this, they said that everyone would have choices but they weren't going to lock/limit the romance numbers to mathematical parity if there were plot and character reasons.

 

So there were plot and character reasons.

 

I entirely expect ME:N and DA4 to have at least two choices for everyone,

but there may be more for plot and character reasons.

 

I'm actually little nervous that will ME:N have romances at all because change of main writer. In DA4 I'm not worried cause Patrick Weekes still is Bioware staff and has wrote romances before, no idea for this new guy from Halo how he does in romance department Oh well, I hope I can romance aliens in ME:N too.

 

I'd like everyone have equal amount of LI's, I hoped that for DAI too. Would really benefit me as well, since I play with different genders, races and sexualities.

[Natashina]

I just couldn't handle my FemSheps animations and voice when speaking to him. And I was uncomfortable with the idea of blatantly flirting with Thane straight after him opening up about his dead wife too. So, it was always going to be Garrus either way for me though I was a bit disappointed to find that Jack and Tali weren't interested in FemShep.

"I'd rather we just talked for a bit."     Thanks for putting tone into that auto-dialogue for me, ME team.  Yeesh.

 

I was okay with Jack, since I couldn't find it in my heart personally to romance someone that had been so broken.  To each their own there.  Tali, well, I just remember David Gaider as well as the Weekes talking about a bisexual romance that they tried to do for DA:I, but "it didn't fit."  From the lines that were datamined, that was probably Cullen.  Anyway, if it didn't work for Tali or if it didn't work for Cullen, then I respect that.  It's a bit of a bummer, but I always thought of Tali as a kid sister anyways.  And Cullen, well, that's why I'm in the gay KISA thread so much.  

 

I do know that, judging from the panel Manveer Heir did last year, the ME series was a growing period for the company.  I also find it funny that DG had stated in 2013 that "BioWare has made it's own mistakes" while showing a picture of the infamous Miranda Butt-Cam.

[Domiel Angelus]

The thing is though, if you play as a straight woman and let Kaidan die on Virmire and either romanced Jacob or no-one in ME2 (or maybe started playing at ME3 though I'm not sure on that) you go into ME3 with exactly 0 options. Straight men, no matter what else fails, always have Liara.

 

That's where we differ in opinion, I don't consider Asari male or female based on their method of procreation. Although physically female based on what we get to see, I still follow that whole table talk that they're just using their massive psychic powers to be attractive to everyone. Pretty sure someone immune to psionics would see an Asari as something similar to a ditto in Pokemon. 

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

Last I heard BioWare speak on this, they said that everyone would have choices but they weren't going to lock/limit the romance numbers to mathematical parity if there were plot and character reasons.

 

So there were plot and character reasons.

 

I entirely expect ME:N and DA4 to have at least two choices for everyone,

but there may be more for plot and character reasons.

 

As long as they're all desirable (way more than half the options we got in DAI were), I suppose I can jive with this new thing. I'd just be a bit bummed out if, from every installment onwards, it always catered to female PC's. If they do change up to this "numberless" system, I'd hope they'd alternate who gets more from game to game, out of fairness.

 

In my humble opinion, though, I don't think there were enough (if any) character reasons to really justify the difference beyond Bioware backing out. And that's a lame developer reason, not a character one.

[Char]

That's also a good point! I stopped being fond of Kaidan when I realized his thick-headedness doesn't work for me. But then when I consider what Bioware did to Ash in ME3, it's like... why can't I leave them both on Virmire?  Y'know? As a mercy to Ash's character and because Kaidan is kind of a jerk in disguise, IMO.

I romanced him in ME1, then was thouroughly annoyed with him on Horizon and his complete lack of trust, ditto for the beginning of ME3 too. And then in the hospital my FemShep's options were either to apologise for getting with Garrus, or attempt to lie about getting with Garrus, whilst I seethed at the screen that "I'm pretty sure that after the Horizon slanging match and general distrust that, you know, it's reasonable grounds to think the relationship might be over." Therefore FemShep did nothing wrong.
But I digress, as long as the options are good ones I'd have no problem having the least options in the next game.

[Felya87]

Last I heard BioWare speak on this, they said that everyone would have choices but they weren't going to lock/limit the romance numbers to mathematical parity if there were plot and character reasons.

 

So there were plot and character reasons.

 

I entirely expect ME:N and DA4 to have at least two choices for everyone,

but there may be more for plot and character reasons.

 

If I remember correctly, BioWare actual philosophy regarding romance is give at least two chance for the the four sexual orientation (two gay, two leasbian, two straigh males, two straight females) Than DAI gave chance to implement two more for stright female, but very restricted.  Cullen because was a more "normal" Li (let's face it: Blackwall and Iron Bull are great, but I can see why many girls might not be all that attracted) and plus was asked as a romance from a lot of time. Solas was implemented to give "more sadness" to the character (thanks, Weekes. really. )

I guess the trend will continue, and time to time there will be some gender/sexuality who will be favourite over other for different reasons.

[9TailsFox]

That's where we differ in opinion, I don't consider Asari male or female based on their method of procreation. Although physically female based on what we get to see, I still follow that whole table talk that they're just using their massive psychic powers to be attractive to everyone. Pretty sure someone immune to psionics would see an Asari as something similar to a ditto in Pokemon. 

Yes that one was funny I don't think we really want to know how Asari look.

[Natashina]

I romanced him in ME1, then was thouroughly annoyed with him on Horizon and his complete lack of trust, ditto for the beginning of ME3 too. And then in the hospital my FemShep's options were either to apologise for getting with Garrus, or attempt to lie about getting with Garrus, whilst I seethed at the screen that "I'm pretty sure that after the Horizon slanging match and general distrust that, you know, it's reasonable grounds to think the relationship might be over." Therefore FemShep did nothing wrong.
But I digress, as long as the options are good ones I'd have no problem having the least options in the next game.

 You sound like my rants the first time I played the game.  The beginning of ME3 was the worst for me.  I didn't romance Kaidan my first time around, but hearing the "I trust you/I don't trust you" argument got very old by the third time.

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

That's where we differ in opinion, I don't consider Asari male or female based on their method of procreation. Although physically female based on what we get to see, I still follow that whole table talk that they're just using their massive psychic powers to be attractive to everyone. Pretty sure someone immune to psionics would see an Asari as something similar to a ditto in Pokemon. 

 

Hot.

[Domiel Angelus]

I romanced him in ME1, then was thouroughly annoyed with him on Horizon and his complete lack of trust, ditto for the beginning of ME3 too. And then in the hospital my FemShep's options were either to apologise for getting with Garrus, or attempt to lie about getting with Garrus, whilst I seethed at the screen that "I'm pretty sure that after the Horizon slanging match and general distrust that, you know, it's reasonable grounds to think the relationship might be over." Therefore FemShep did nothing wrong.
But I digress, as long as the options are good ones I'd have no problem having the least options in the next game.

 

You can shoot him in the shoulder if it makes you feel better >.>

[Char]

 You sound like my rants the first time I played the game.  The beginning of ME3 was the worst for me.  I didn't romance Kaidan my first time around, but hearing the "I trust you/I don't trust you" argument got very old by the third time.

I have actually only played them through once I keep meaning to go back and do them again but it means putting up with the Mako controls again for ME1

[Natashina]

 

If I remember correctly, BioWare actual philosophy regarding romance is give at least two chance for the the four sexual orientation (two gay, two leasbian, two straigh males, two straight females) Than DAI gave chance to implement two more for striaght female, but very restricted.    Cullen because was a more "normal" Li (let's face it: Blackwall and Iron Bull are great, but I can see why many girls might not be all that attracted) and plus was asked as a romance from a lot of time. Solas was implemented to give "more sadness" to the character (thanks, Weekes. really.   )

I guess the trend will continue, and time to time there will be some gender/sexuality who will be favourite over other for different reasons.

That's what I heard too.  

 

Also, and no offense to the men, but where is there LI that could die and/or leave them no matter what in the DA series?  I mean, Isabela you can get to come back if you have enough rep; Leliana is dedicated to the Warden to this day and will change religious law to stay with him/her; Morrigan can be followed through the mirror with a romanced Warden; Merrill never goes anywhere.  Cass you can keep if you don't make her Divine (which is easy, just tell her not to;) Josie doesn't go anywhere.

 

I'm not saying what's good for the gander is good for the goose, but I think if BioWare keeps insisting on a tragic romance (or two in this game, if you count Blackwall's reveal,) it would be nice to see the shoe on the other foot.  Besides, I may not be a straight guy, but I do play straight men in DA games from time to time.  I think some variety in that department would be welcome, at least by me.  

 

I have actually only played them through once   I keep meaning to go back and do them again but it means putting up with the Mako controls again for ME1 

If you are on PC, I can show you some cheat codes.  Including one for the Mako which gives it 3xs the booster power for jumping.  

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Actually its not just sexually biased but racially biased as well. Female Elves get the most options, 6,  followed by Female Humans at 5. The rest gets 4.

 

So what we should be doing is hating on Female Elves with their romance privileges. Down with the romtriachy ! Romance equality for everyone ! Sadly, they are a mystical race that doesn't exist. 

 

To be fair, one of the straight female option will leave them at the end of the game. There is another who is a liar who decides to own up his mistakes and he too, could leave at the end of the game. Then there is one who is part of a totalitarian culture and can be made to remain in that said culture. 

 

The gay male options could leave them with one who could either return to his homeland or another one who could be made to remain part of a totalitarian oppressive culture.

 

The lesbian female options leave them with either and adorkable Disney Princess or a childish Chav brat. 

 

By contrast, the straight male option will either end up becoming a Divine or just be an adorkable Disney Princess. 

 

So while the straight male has only 2 options, both options will almost always end very well. Being a Divine is not a bad thing, reforming the Seekers is not a bad thing, not doing either of those two things is not a bad thing and the adorkable Disney Princess will stay as our ambassador.

 

No dealing with recovering drug addict lover or no dealing with heartbreaks due to bald pajama eggheads or heart wrenching lies from a former Orlesian soldier or a childish brat with little character development or no dealing with Qun crap or no dealing with possibility of your lover going back to his homeland because he wants to emulate you or something.

 

There is something positive in everything. 

[SofaJockey]

If you are on PC, I can show you some cheat codes.  Including one for the Mako which gives it 3xs the booster power for jumping.  

 

The Mako was a dream to drive compared to the Hammerhead... 

[Domiel Angelus]

I have actually only played them through once I keep meaning to go back and do them again but it means putting up with the Mako controls again for ME1

 

If you're only wanting to replay the games and avoiding the horrendous controls of the Mako, you could always acquire the interactive comic book that allows you to make the carry over decisions from 1 to 2.

[Natashina]

I am a little resentful that elves are usually treated as LI fodder, to be honest.  I'd love to see some more racial variety as well, big time.  Shoot, think about it.  Every single elf that has been in our party has been a love interest in the Dragon Age series.  

 

The Mako was a dream to drive compared to the Hammerhead...  

<shudder>  I skip all missions with that bloody thing except for the Overlord DLC.

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

 

 

That's what I heard too.  

 

Also, and no offense to the men, but where is there LI that could die and/or leave them no matter what in the DA series?  I mean, Isabela you can get to come back if you have enough rep; Leliana is dedicated to the Warden to this day and will change religious law to stay with him/her; Morrigan can be followed through the mirror with a romanced Warden; Merrill never goes anywhere.  Cass you can keep if you don't make her Divine (which is easy, just tell her not to;) Josie doesn't go anywhere.

 

I'm not saying what's good for the gander is good for the goose, but I think if BioWare keeps insisting on a tragic romance (or two in this game, if you count Blackwall's reveal,) it would be nice to see the shoe on the other foot.  Besides, I may not be a straight guy, but I do play straight men in DA games from time to time.  I think some variety in that department would be welcome, at least by me.  

 

If you are on PC, I can show you some cheat codes.  Including one for the Mako which gives it 3xs the booster power for jumping.  

 

 

Another good point! Though, I'm not sure if I'm remembering incorrectly or not, but I think depending on what you say to Dorian, he'll return to Tevinter by himself and leave his amatus behind. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't happen immediately after the main quest. Still, it's aaall down to choice and what we choose to do and say to the LI's as to whether they must have a sad or tragic ending, of sorts. Please correct me if I'm wrong, though!

[Char]

 


If you are on PC, I can show you some cheat codes.  Including one for the Mako which gives it 3xs the booster power for jumping.  

Sadly all my ME games are on console I keep being driven closer to the PC brigade though, the mods all look so much fun!
I'd have to invest in a proper PC though, my laptop is ancient and my netbook has less storage capacity than my phone

[Panda]

That's where we differ in opinion, I don't consider Asari male or female based on their method of procreation. Although physically female based on what we get to see, I still follow that whole table talk that they're just using their massive psychic powers to be attractive to everyone. Pretty sure someone immune to psionics would see an Asari as something similar to a ditto in Pokemon. 

 

I think Bioware should have gone more androgynous look for Asaris, because to players their looks always are pretty feminine and I think it's hard for many players, me included, to think them as androgynous, because the way they look and how everyone of them has also body parts that female sex has, boobs ^^;

[Domiel Angelus]

 

I am a little resentful that elves are usually treated as LI fodder, to be honest.  I'd love to see some more racial variety as well, big time.  Shoot, think about it.  Every single elf that has been in our party has been a love interest in the Dragon Age series.  

 

<shudder>  I skip all missions with that bloody thing except for the Overlord DLC.

 

 

I think its odd that the last one in the series is the one that makes both elf LI female only. Fenris, Zevran and Merrill were all bisexual options, so if you wanted to romance an elf in the previous titles you had your pick of the litter. I however do sort of put Merrill in that same category as Cole in the "Too innocent" to romance category. "Daisy" should be kept as innocent as the white snow on the ground of Thedas. 

 

I'm not forgetting the drag queen that you may hop into bed with, he/she is only a romp in the sheets if you're into that sort of deal. I would have liked to have stolen Briala away during the whole court intrigue portion because she was gorgeous and intelligent (Running that entire spy network would have to take a woman that's definitely smarter than the Inquisitor, male or female). 

[Felya87]

The hammerhead was my nighmare.

Beside this...I'm still hopkng For a dwarf LI. If there is one thing I regret a Little about DAI is an unromanceable Varric...

[Natashina]

Sadly all my ME games are on console I keep being driven closer to the PC brigade though, the mods all look so much fun!
I'd have to invest in a proper PC though, my laptop is ancient and my netbook has less storage capacity than my phone

Let me know if you do get a gaming rig.  I can recommend some nice mods for you.  Mods can be fun, but they can break your game in unexpected ways.   I'll say this now: Make a lot of backups of your files.    

 

I love the privilege of being able to afford a gaming rig and mod my games.  I feel very lucky, which is why I don't complain very hard when patches break mods.  I'm lucky to have them at all.  

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Another good point! Though, I'm not sure if I'm remembering incorrectly or not, but I think depending on what you say to Dorian, he'll return to Tevinter by himself and leave his amatus behind. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't happen immediately after the main quest. Still, it's aaall down to choice and what we choose to do and say to the LI's as to whether they must have a sad or tragic ending, of sorts. Please correct me if I'm wrong, though!

 

The straight male got less options but the options they have are more reliable. The straight female has more options but more potential for heartbreaks. The gay male has same number of options as the straight male but there is potential for heartbreak and the lesbian female might have to put up with a brat.