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I think that Solas romance is the best romance in DAI and I think that there is still hope to get him back and I'm really hoping that it will happen. I know that it might not happen and I will probably be sad, frustrated  and dissappointed if that happens but still I keep hoping until  there is no hope :)

you are not the only one  :(

 

the only motive I'm not angry at the romance is because stuff still have to happen with him, (quite obviously) and the (few) scenes where beautiful.

I'll hold hope until the end.


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you are not the only one  :(

 

the only motive I'm not angry at the romance is because stuff still have to happen with him, (quite obviously) and the (few) scenes where beautiful.

I'll hold hope until the end.

I have been thinking that Solas romance could be the best romance ever including all the books and movies if there is a change to get him back. I haven't played Jaws of Hakkon yet but I'm already waiting a DLC which will happen after the main events. Well I have been waiting that since I completed the game :D


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I have been thinking that Solas romance could be the best romance ever including all the books and movies if there is a change to get him back. I haven't played Jaws of Hakkon yet but I'm already waiting a DLC which will happen after the main events. Well I have been waiting that since I completed the game :D

 

I think most people are waiting for some sort of conclusion (Bioware is certainly aware of it), whether they romanced Solas or not :P



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Hmmm? How was that done? in a bedroom and fade to black with a "wake up in bed" scene?

They start making out on his desk, then after a few seconds it fades to black, and when you wake up, he's naked (the Inquisitor is just finished getting dressed) and it uses Clever Camera Angles™ to not show anything explicit. Personally, I'd like that in every romance.

 

Edit: Oh, wow I missed 3 pages! I'm probably not even on topic anymore!

 

Double edit: Aaaaand I was ninja'd. I feel so useful right now :lol:

 

Edit 3: @Natashina It still took me a bit to figure out you were posting but I'm getting better :P



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Had to go with indoctrination theory and head cannon the rest as being possible lol.

Indoctrination theory B) That's where most of my 7000 posts come from. Yeah... :P



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Had to go with indoctrination theory and head cannon the rest as being possible lol.

Would definitely prefer IT to what the leak says they are doing. 


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Would definitely prefer IT to what the leak says they are doing. 

I can already see so much wrong with that idea, so much that doesn't make sense. We'll see what they actually do though. Back on topic, I'm really hoping the advisors are featured heavily in the next DLC, as well as having, say, one nice romance scene for all the romances. It was sad that the advisors had no lines in JoH, but since Leliana talked in the Dragonslayer trailer, I'm hoping that's because she's in the booth.


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They start making out on his desk, then after a few seconds it fades to black, and when you wake up, he's naked (the Inquisitor is just finished getting dressed) and it uses Clever Camera Angles™ to not show anything explicit. Personally, I'd like that in every romance.

 

Edit: Oh, wow I missed 3 pages! I'm probably not even on topic anymore!

 

Double edit: Aaaaand I was ninja'd. I feel so useful right now :lol:

 

 

 

Thank you for the effort anyway it's still appreciated ;)

 

Indoctrination theory B) That's where most of my 7000 posts come from. Yeah... :P

 

Would definitely prefer IT to what the leak says they are doing. 

 

Yep for me IT was the only thing that made sense and the info that supports it is overwhelming.

 

I mean Shepard already injured and bleeding, has his nanomachine tech that supports his life destroyed and takes a blast somewhat like a nuke going off and gets buried in debris (meaning it hit him to cover him) and still lives

........ Yeah sure

 

I mean damn if he was that tough in ME2 he could have just held his breath, used the force of his farts to line himself up for reentry to the planets atmosphere. Landed into an ocean to cool himself down from the heat of reentry and then walked out of the water onto the beach like a boss with his ripped up spacesuit to Garrus waiting for him sat in a deck chair sipping a pina colada!

 

Seriously.... IT is the best outcome which makes the most sense lol :D

 

But back on topic....

 

Solas being revealed or brought back after the main story just wont happen until the next DA installment as he has been made to be too important a character now.

 

Unless he has a "Witch Hunt" type DLC which knowing BW they could do the repetition thing but hopefully wont to be honest lol.

 

I guess BW thought as Cullen had been in both previous games he wouldn't need any additional characterization just like Leilana... WHICH IS WRONG!

 

Can never have enough characterization BW especially when a good amount of time has passed and a person's character can change within that time.

 

I think character specific DLC would be needed to help build them up better.

 

An extra personal mission for each companion which then concentrate purely on that character and establishes them better would help tremendously I think


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I mean damn if he was that tough in ME2 he could have just held his breath, used the force of his farts to line himself up for reentry to the planets atmosphere. Landed into an ocean to cool himself down from the heat of reentry and then walked out of the water onto the beach like a boss with his ripped up space to Garrus waiting for him sat in a deck chair sipping a pina colada!

 

It would have to be an amino-dextro piña colada or my immersion would be ruined! :P


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It would have to be an amino-dextro piña colada or my immersion would be ruined! :P

 

Oh Tali is the barwoman which made the drink for him.

 

She is there shaking up a cocktail as Shep exits the water like a scene from a James Bond movie lol :P

 

Garrus: "You took your time Shepard, almost thought you wasn't gonna make it"

 

Shepard: "Yeah it got a little heated back there but my reentry was flawless"

 

Tali: "You are welcome to practice your reentry with me anytime"

 

Lmao BW should so employ me lol :P


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Solas being revealed or brought back after the main story just wont happen until the next DA installment as he has been made to be too important a character now.

 

Unless he has a "Witch Hunt" type DLC which knowing BW they could do the repetition thing but hopefully wont to be honest lol.

Solas is very important character but it doesn't mean that his story couldn't be dealt with in the following DLCs. What he is going to do will probably change the world forever but after he has done that I believe that he isn't that important for the story anymore so I think it's possible to solve his romance in a DLC. Besides that doesn't prevent him from showing up in the next game.

The resolution to his romance don't have to be similar to Morrigan romance. If he comes back after he has done what he must then it's a different story which hasn't been told yet. I don't believe that it's possible for him to stay in the inquisition but maybe he comes back and asks you to join him and you can follow him or not. I'm also hoping that there is a different protagonist in the next game so there is no need for you to stay in the inquisition.



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Solas is very important character but it doesn't mean that his story couldn't be dealt with in the following DLCs. What he is going to do will probably change the world forever but after he has done that I believe that he isn't that important for the story anymore so I think it's possible to solve his romance in a DLC. Besides that doesn't prevent him from showing up in the next game.

The resolution to his romance don't have to be similar to Morrigan romance. If he comes back after he has done what he must then it's a different story which hasn't been told yet. I don't believe that it's possible for him to stay in the inquisition but maybe he comes back and asks you to join him and you can follow him or not. I'm also hoping that there is a different protagonist in the next game so there is no need for you to stay in the inquisition.

I would consider it very possible for a DLC in which the Inquisitor encounters Solas especially since it would help set tiles in the Keep for how the Inquisitor deals with the revelation of who he is and how they feel about what his plans potentially entails. This would allow his plans to come to fruition and him to serve a role in DA:4 without missing the oppertunity for the player-Inquisitor and him to meet. If it is the last DLC and if it is like Witch Hunt in which it can only be played last and finally then it could also end with the mark being removed from the Inquisitor.

 

 


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Solas is very important character but it doesn't mean that his story couldn't be dealt with in the following DLCs. What he is going to do will probably change the world forever but after he has done that I believe that he isn't that important for the story anymore so I think it's possible to solve his romance in a DLC. Besides that doesn't prevent him from showing up in the next game.

The resolution to his romance don't have to be similar to Morrigan romance. If he comes back after he has done what he must then it's a different story which hasn't been told yet. I don't believe that it's possible for him to stay in the inquisition but maybe he comes back and asks you to join him and you can follow him or not. I'm also hoping that there is a different protagonist in the next game so there is no need for you to stay in the inquisition.

 

I am kind confused with what you are saying.... "I'm also hoping that there is a different protagonist in the next game so there is no need for you to stay in the inquisition."

 

But you ARE the inquisitor, if you leave there is no Inquisition.

 

And if you do the "but maybe he comes back and asks you to join him and you can follow him or not" that would be the same as Morrigan and choosing whether or not to go through the eluvian with her.

 

I think his plans will be revealed in DA4 as if they are revealed here and executed it will leave DA4 potentially a blank slate with nothing to follow which just doesn't happen in the DA series.

 

And in your personal opinion what would be deemed as "solving the Solas romance"?

 

And do remember that Solas is a

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I would consider it very possible for a DLC in which the Inquisitor encounters Solas especially since it would help set tiles in the Keep for how the Inquisitor deals with the revelation of who he is and how they feel about what his plans potentially entails. This would allow his plans to come to fruition and him to serve a role in DA:4 without missing the oppertunity for the player-Inquisitor and him to meet. If it is the last DLC and if it is like Witch Hunt in which it can only be played last and finally then it could also end with the mark being removed from the Inquisitor.

 

Hmmm the only thing effecting the Witch Hunt type Solas DLC is your choice with the well.

 

As Solas now has Mythral inside him if you drank from the well he can commend you to do anything he wills thus stopping you from interfering with anything he doesn't want you to interfere with lol.

 

So if you did drink you will have no choice in how the DLC story plays out.



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Hmmm the only thing effecting the Witch Hunt type Solas DLC is your choice with the well.

 

As Solas now has Mythral inside him if you drank from the well he can commend you to do anything he wills thus stopping you from interfering with anything he doesn't want you to interfere with lol.

 

So if you did drink you will have no choice in how the DLC story plays out.

 

This is all speculation.

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The more I think about it, owever, the more I'd like to play the next DA game importing the Inquisitor instead of a new protagonist. Even if DAI is quite long, in the end it felt like the companions and the protagonist are just "presented", I didn't felt their story to be "complete".


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This is all speculation.

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The more I think about it, ~However, the more I'd like to play the next DA game importing the Inquisitor instead of a new protagonist. Even if DAI is quite long, in the end it felt like the companions and the protagonist are just "presented", I didn't felt their story to be "complete".

 

Erm Solas wouldn't be used because he is of the same level

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And that's exactly my point! With how much was missed/left out from the characters another game after to flesh things out and shine more light onto things would be better rather than trying to cram it into DLC.

 

I'm just upset the war never played a part in anything and seemed like a wasted part of the plot which could have been so much more and no DLC can fix that.



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I would consider it very possible for a DLC in which the Inquisitor encounters Solas especially since it would help set tiles in the Keep for how the Inquisitor deals with the revelation of who he is and how they feel about what his plans potentially entails. This would allow his plans to come to fruition and him to serve a role in DA:4 without missing the oppertunity for the player-Inquisitor and him to meet. If it is the last DLC and if it is like Witch Hunt in which it can only be played last and finally then it could also end with the mark being removed from the Inquisitor.

I believe too that if we meet Solas again then it's going to be the last DLC. I would be quite surprised if there isn't a DLC which happens after the main events and if we don't see him again in one of the DAI's DLCs.

 

 

I am kind confused with what you are saying.... "I'm also hoping that there is a different protagonist in the next game so there is no need for you to stay in the inquisition."

 

But you ARE the inquisitor, if you leave there is no Inquisition.

 

And if you do the "but maybe he comes back and asks you to join him and you can follow him or not" that would be the same as Morrigan and choosing whether or not to go through the eluvian with her.

 

I think his plans will be revealed in DA4 as if they are revealed here and executed it will leave DA4 potentially a blank slate with nothing to follow which just doesn't happen in the DA series.

 

And in your personal opinion what would be deemed as "solving the Solas romance"?

 

And do remember that Solas is a

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Inquisitor leads the inquisition and therefore can be replaced. You were chosen to lead it but inquisitor could have been Cassandra or Leliana if you weren't around.

I think it's quite different thing if Solas comes back and asks you to join him when comparing to Morrigan romance where you went after her. The only similarity in this case would be that you can choose whether to join her/him. If that's called repetition then almost everything is repetition and I mean all the boss fights are repetition because there usually always is a boss fight in the end of the game or how you become the hero. First you are just a random person living your life wherever you will live and then something happens and you become the hero and usually you are the only one who can save the world. In DAO this person was warden and in DAI this person was inquisitor. All the different kissing scenes would be repetition etc.

Solving the Solas romance means that there is possibility to get him back or break up for good or that it's quite clear that you can't be together.

 

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I believe too that if we meet Solas again then it's going to be the last DLC. I would be quite surprised if there isn't a DLC which happens after the main events and if we don't see him again in one of the DAI's DLCs.

 

 

Inquisitor leads the inquisition and therefore can be replaced. You were chosen to lead it but inquisitor could have been Cassandra or Leliana if you weren't around.

I think it's quite different thing if Solas comes back and asks you to join him when comparing to Morrigan romance where you went after her. The only similarity in this case would be that you can choose whether to join her/him. If that's called repetition then almost everything is repetition and I mean all the boss fights are repetition because there usually always is a boss fight in the end of the game or how you become the hero. First you are just a random person living your life wherever you will live and then something happens and you become the hero and usually you are the only one who can save the world. In DAO this person was warden and in DAI this person was inquisitor. All the different kissing scenes would be repetition etc.

Solving the Solas romance means that there is possibility to get him back or break up for good or that it's quite clear that you can't be together.

 

Spoiler

 

What elven god was just a powerful being?

 

Cassandra and Leilana are busy being divine and rebuilding the seekers.

 

Yes it would be repetition because it would play out the same way.

 

But in this case I think the choices will be limited if you drank from the well as you would have no choice.



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Inquisitor leads the inquisition and therefore can be replaced. You were chosen to lead it but inquisitor could have been Cassandra or Leliana if you weren't around.

 

Neither Cassandra nor Leliana are viewed as being chosen by Andraste, at least by common folk (plus, either of those - depending on our choices - will be busy with different duties). And, like Josephine said at the end of the game, after defeating Corypheus, Inquisitor pretty much enters the area of legend - they're more than just leaders of Inquisition; they're considered (rightfully or not) a hero in Thedas and they can't be that easily replaced.

 

Which I think would lead to an interesting personal conflict, IF it happened that we got a DLC in which Solas either requests Inquisitors help or... well... he'd feel he's forced to do something more drastic: Inquisitor is a sign of hope for many and leader of changing world order, as well as the only power left standing that's not only intact, but growing and possibly able to defend Southern Thedas, from - say - Qunari or Tevinter invasion (or else) or just keep Orlais and Ferelden from plunging into renewed conflicts.

 

So... would it be good for Inquisitor to leave her post or be removed, when she's sorely needed in Thedas? Seems to me that both her and Solas are bound by duty to their respective people - Inquisitor to Thedosians, and Solas as possibly the hero and leader of last remnants of his people.

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Whether it's possible to reconcile those duties with them continuing their affair remains a question to be answered yet - though, obviously, Solas doesn't seem to think so.


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What elven god was just a powerful being?

 

Cassandra and Leilana are busy being divine and rebuilding the seekers.

 

Yes it would be repetition because it would play out the same way.

 

But in this case I think the choices will be limited if you drank from the well as you would have no choice.

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I meant that inquisitor could have been Cassandra or Leliana if you wouldn't have existed. If you leave the inquisition somebody else can become inquisitor and he/she doesn't have to be Leliana or Cassandra. The person can be Cullen for example or somebody else. It's also possible that Leliana or Cassandra can become inquisitor depending who is divine and is Cassandra rebuilding the seekers or not.

I guess we'll have to disagree on would it be repetition.

I'm not sure what choices you are referring to? I believe that Solas would come back to romanced inquisitor after he has completed his mission because he loves her. In this case it doesn't matter did you drank from the well or not. Well if you are bound to him then he probably wants to set you free if that's possible.



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Neither Cassandra nor Leliana are viewed as being chosen by Andraste, at least by common folk (plus, either of those - depending on our choices - will be busy with different duties). And, like Josephine said at the end of the game, after defeating Corypheus, Inquisitor pretty much enters the area of legend - they're more than just leaders of Inquisition; they're considered (rightfully or not) a hero in Thedas and they can't be that easily replaced.

 

Which I think would lead to an interesting personal conflict, IF it happened that we got a DLC in which Solas either requests Inquisitors help or... well... he'd feel he's forced to do something more drastic: Inquisitor is a sign of hope for many and leader of changing world order, as well as the only power left standing that's not only intact, but growing and possibly able to defend Southern Thedas, from - say - Qunari or Tevinter invasion (or else) or just keep Orlais and Ferelden from plunging into renewed conflicts.

 

So... would it be good for Inquisitor to leave her post or be removed, when she's sorely needed in Thedas? Seems to me that both her and Solas are bound by duty to their respective people - Inquisitor to Thedosians, and Solas as possibly the hero and leader of last remnants of his people.

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Whether it's possible to reconcile those duties with them continuing their affair remains a question to be answered yet - though, obviously, Solas doesn't seem to think so.

I agree that your inquisitor couldn't be replaced easily. If the hero inquisitor would leave the inquisition then there probably would be a lot of negative consequences but somebody else would probably chosen to be the next inquisitor. Anyway I meant that Leliana or Cassandra could have been inquisitor if you wouldn't have been at the conclave.

My elven inquisitors would gladly join Solas because to them the People who Solas always speaks of are more important to them than the humans in Thedas. My elven inquisitors have already saved the world but if the humans want to destroy it then they can do it. It's no longer their problem.

I believe that the main reason why Solas and inquisitor can't be together right now is that he has his mission and he thinks that he should complete it alone. I believe that he tried to be distant because he was afraid that he couldn't break up with you and he was afraid of revealing himself to you.



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Inquisitor leads the inquisition and therefore can be replaced. You were chosen to lead it but inquisitor could have been Cassandra or Leliana if you weren't around.

 

It would've been kind of cool if at some point in the game, you could appoint someone as your successor. I would've definitely given Cassandra the role.



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I think that there will be no inquisition after "our" inquisitor. It was mother Giselle (?) who highlighted that previous inquisitors stepped down and gived up power when their "work" was done - like she expects the same from you. And frankly, our job is done. Cory is dead, war between mages and templars is over, civil war in Orlais... And remaining fade rifts as the main or only reason inquisition still exists will not "neutralize" the threat (power, followers...) inquisition poses in the eyes of rulers in Thedas. Sooner or later.
 
As for Solas, at least he should confess and explain everything (like he promised... when he thought he will recover "functional" orb in the end). But he will not do that before he realize his plan... and it can take whole DA4 :D
 

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Maybe his romance will be even more tragic :D (I hope not, I want some reunion :wub: )



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I agree that your inquisitor couldn't be replaced easily. If the hero inquisitor would leave the inquisition then there probably would be a lot of negative consequences but somebody else would probably chosen to be the next inquisitor. Anyway I meant that Leliana or Cassandra could have been inquisitor if you wouldn't have been at the conclave.

My elven inquisitors would gladly join Solas because to them the People who Solas always speaks of are more important to them than the humans in Thedas. My elven inquisitors have already saved the world but if the humans want to destroy it then they can do it. It's no longer their problem.

 

Considering that neither Leliana nor Cassandra stepped up (and after destruction of Haven they've decided to hand the leadership to Herald) I don't think they'd want or make effective Inquisitors. Aside form everything else, it's Giselle who hints one of the main reasons for it - both of them are too tied to the Chantry.

This is also why they both searched for Hawke (and HoF) earlier.

 

 

As for whether my elven Inquisitor would join Solas.... well it would depend what she'd learn. 

 

But I know that she wouldn't join him solely on the basis of picking ancient elves over humans. I also don't think Solas would approve of that, seeing that he's a person sensitive to the plight of other races or groups that are treated unfairly - and he always approves of Inquisitors who never focus just on one group of people, but is fair to all. 

 

Also, I don't think Solas just wants to restore ancient elves for the sake of restoring them. But even if he does - what if the way to restore ancient elves leads through changing the minds of people of Thedas? It would explain why Solas basically gave Skyhold to Inquisition. By his own admission, he did that in order to steer any suspicions away from elves and make people think of them as valuable allies.

 

So, what if Inquisitor and Solas would have to stay separated in order to work on bringing elves and other races together, with merely a promise that they'd reconnect one day, when things go well? If such is the case, I'm tearing them apart faster than I can say "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" :P

 

Besides, leaving 'just like that, for the sake of the People' would speak badly of my Inquisitor - she said it herself at the end of the game that Inquisition is just getting started, while Morrigan warned that Corypheus was just first of ancient terrors that will haunt the land. Plus, she's made friends and learned stuff from people she met along the way... and she'd just abandon them, for the allure of 'ancient elfiness'? Of the People she knows little to nothing about, who would likely flat-out reject her (like Abelas did in ToM), since for them she's just a common shemlen? I don't think they'd look at her favorably, even if the Anchor is the key of their salvation or she's recognized as beloved of their (assumed) leader.

 

In fact - what if shemlen can't even enter where the last ancient elves are, because they'd taint them with mortality? Solas might be able to withstand it, probably because of who he is... or does he? (I don't think he was born with all these wrinkles, lol).

 

So yeah, there are more than a few reasons why she wouldn't want or be able to go with him. And that's probably just a tip of an iceberg.

 

 

I believe that the main reason why Solas and inquisitor can't be together right now is that he has his mission and he thinks that he should complete it alone. I believe that he tried to be distant because he was afraid that he couldn't break up with you and he was afraid of revealing himself to you.

 

I suspect that he knows that he won't accomplish this mission unscathed - either he'd have to sacrifice himself or part of himself (or pay the price for whatever he's doing), which is why he sometimes sounds like he's about to die. What exactly this means is anyone's guess at this point



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Considering that neither Leliana nor Cassandra stepped up (and after destruction of Haven they've decided to hand the leadership to Herald) I don't think they'd want or make effective Inquisitors. Aside form everything else, it's Giselle who hints one of the main reasons for it - both of them are too tied to the Chantry.

This is also why they both searched for Hawke (and HoF) earlier.

 

Funny thing is that this is arguably true for a Trevelyan Inquisitor as well, considering the family's ties to the Chantry.