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[CathyMe]

I think that there will be no inquisition after "our" inquisitor. It was mother Giselle (?) who highlighted that previous inquisitors stepped down and gived up power when their "work" was done - like she expects the same from you. And frankly, our job is done. Cory is dead, war between mages and templars is over, civil war in Orlais... And remaining fade rifts as the main or only reason inquisition still exists will not "neutralize" the threat (power, followers...) inquisition poses in the eyes of rulers in Thedas. Sooner or later.
 
As for Solas, at least he should confess and explain everything (like he promised... when he thought he will recover "functional" orb in the end). But he will not do that before he realize his plan... and it can take whole DA4
 

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I thought first (I am not so sure now) that he is planning to release the Elven Gods, if he locked them "behind the mirror" to help People to rebuild, but if so, I doubt they will be so thrilled he locked them away in the first place, so he might "pay the price" for his mistake sooner than he expects

 

Maybe his romance will be even more tragic (I hope not, I want some reunion  )

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I actually think that he will try to release the elven gods as well, and they will get their revenge. Mostly because I don't think he sees any way he can help the elves anymore, but we'll see

This actually made me realize that in DAO and DAII the elven male were the "drama free" romance option that had mostly a happy ending (zevran, fenris), while the blonde male humans were the angst and drama filled romance option (alistair, anders) , but in DAI Cullen and Solas completely reverse the roles (for a female elf anyway ).

Edit: As for leaving the inquistion, I think that should be an option in the final DLC. It would probably be a pretty hard decision, since Briala depends on my quizzie in all my playthroughs, otherwise they would flee at the first oportunity

[midnight tea]

Funny thing is that this is arguably true for a Trevelyan Inquisitor as well, considering the family's ties to the Chantry.

 

 

Can their vague, famillial ties compete with being Left and Right hand of the Divine? Don't think so. Also, as far as we know, Inquisitor Trevelyan was never part of the Chantry, even if later in life they were expected to join it.

[Abelas Forever!]

 

 

 

Considering that neither Leliana nor Cassandra stepped up (and after destruction of Haven they've decided to hand the leadership to Herald) I don't think they'd want or make effective Inquisitors. Aside form everything else, it's Giselle who hints one of the main reasons for it - both of them are too tied to the Chantry.

This is also why they both searched for Hawke (and HoF) earlier.

 

 

As for whether my elven Inquisitor would join Solas.... well it would depend what she'd learn. 

 

But I know that she wouldn't join him solely on the basis of picking ancient elves over humans. I also don't think Solas would approve of that, seeing that he's a person sensitive to the plight of other races or groups that are treated unfairly - and he always approves of Inquisitors who never focus just on one group of people, but is fair to all. 

 

Also, I don't think Solas just wants to restore ancient elves for the sake of restoring them. But even if he does - what if the way to restore ancient elves leads through changing the minds of people of Thedas? It would explain why Solas basically gave Skyhold to Inquisition. By his own admission, he did that in order to steer any suspicions away from elves and make people think of them as valuable allies.

 

So, what if Inquisitor and Solas would have to stay separated in order to work on bringing elves and other races together, with merely a promise that they'd reconnect one day, when things go well? If such is the case, I'm tearing them apart faster than I can say "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

 

Besides, leaving 'just like that, for the sake of the People' would speak badly of my Inquisitor - she said it herself at the end of the game that Inquisition is just getting started, while Morrigan warned that Corypheus was just first of ancient terrors that will haunt the land. Plus, she's made friends and learned stuff from people she met along the way... and she'd just abandon them, for the allure of 'ancient elfiness'? Of the People she knows little to nothing about, who would likely flat-out reject her (like Abelas did in ToM), since for them she's just a common shemlen? I don't think they'd look at her favorably, even if the Anchor is the key of their salvation or she's recognized as beloved of their (assumed) leader.

 

In fact - what if shemlen can't even enter where the last ancient elves are, because they'd taint them with mortality? Solas might be able to withstand it, probably because of who he is... or does he? (I don't think he was born with all these wrinkles, lol).

 

So yeah, there are more than a few reasons why she wouldn't want or be able to go with him. And that's probably just a tip of an iceberg.

 

 

I suspect that he knows that he won't accomplish this mission unscathed - either he'd have to sacrifice himself or part of himself (or pay the price for whatever he's doing), which is why he sometimes sounds like he's about to die. What exactly this means is anyone's guess at this point

 

Whether Leliana or Cassandra or some other person would be a good inquisitor is irrelevant if your inquisitor would leave because somebody would have to be leading the inquisitor if they want to continue it's existence.

Solas is capable of understanding your reasons of doing something if you explain it to him even if he would have disapproved the decision at first like when you drank from the well. But because it's not known what situation it will be if you have an opportunity to join him he might not even disapprove it. Maybe he wants you to join him.

I think Solas picked Skyhold because he thought that it would be suitable for the inquisition and I think that it has nothing to do with steering suspicions away from the elves. He needed the inquisition to succeed because he needed his orb back so that he could help his people. In a way he used inquisition.

My elven inquisitors feel that they are outsiders in the inquisition and they don't believe in the Chantry. One of my elven inquisitor suspects that Solas isn't just a powerful mage but instead something more and she suspects that she might need all the allies in the future because there must be a good reason for him to leave her. That's why she is building her army and if she needs it to help Solas then she will do it. She wouldn't do it because of ancient elfiness but because she feels that they are her people as well and she can relate to them more than humans on Thedas. I think that ancient elves would not approve Inquisitor at first but it's possible that they will learn to approve her when they see that she is at their side. It might not happen fast but there is no reason why it couldn't happen. Afterall she has the mark and she is with Solas.

I think that every elven inquisitor has their own reasons why they want to/not want to join Solas. It's true that there are reasons why inquisitor couldn't join Solas but there are also reasons why she could do that. It's possible that the mark will prevent her from corrupting the ancient elves or makes it possible for her to enter where other elves are. It's also possible that modern elves or humans didn't make ancient elves immortal because it's not known how ancient elves become immortal. It's also not known whether you are the inquisitor anymore if you meet him. I mean that it's possible that some bad people might plot against you and they might succeed in dethroning you. So many things are possible.

[midnight tea]

 

Whether Leliana or Cassandra or some other person would be a good inquisitor is irrelevant if your inquisitor would leave because somebody would have to be leading the inquisitor if they want to continue it's existence.

 

That's kinda obvious, isn't it? But that wasn't the issue we discussed about - the issue is whether there's anybody suitable to replace previous Inquisitor in case he/she would find themselves in a situation, in which they'd have to choose whether they stay with Inquisition, or - say - embark on new adventure (btw. I assume that the DLC would be substantial and won't focus on romance TOO much, considering that not everyone chose to play female elf or romance Solas. There HAS to be some sort of option for, say, befriended Inquisitors as well - or all of them, whether approved or not, considering that they still wield the Anchor).

 

 

 

Solas is capable of understanding your reasons of doing something if you explain it to him even if he would have disapproved the decision at first like when you drank from the well. But because it's not known what situation it will be if you have an opportunity to join him he might not even disapprove it. Maybe he wants you to join him.

 

I didn't say that he'd disapprove of any choice, in case they'd find themselves in a situation that would require Inquisitor's assistance. I simply said that he'd disapprove if Lavellan made a choice based predominantly on picking ancient elves over humans or something like that. 

 

Also - whether he'd want it or not may be irrelevant. He does leave her after all and claims that he can't be with her - what's the reason for it we don't yet know, but it may encompass everything: from him not wanting to see her eventually wither a die, to not waning to risk her life or maybe her seeing him do something terrible... and might as well be all those things

 

 

I think Solas picked Skyhold because he thought that it would be suitable for the inquisition and I think that it has nothing to do with steering suspicions away from the elves. He needed the inquisition to succeed because he needed his orb back so that he could help his people. In a way he used inquisition.

 

It has everything to do with steering suspicions away from the elves - he even said that, after talking with Inquisitor before finding Skyhold. Just pay attention to what he says when he takes your Inquisitor to the side, where he reveals that the orb was of elven origin.

 

Also: Skyhold lies in a place that was of tremendous importance to ancient elves - you'd think Solas would just give away its location, simply because it was "suitable for Inqusition"?

 

 

 

My elven inquisitors feel that they are outsiders in the inquisition and they don't believe in the Chantry. 

 

How's that different to what modern elves are to ancient elves?

 

 

 

One of my elven inquisitor suspects that Solas isn't just a powerful mage but instead something more and she suspects that she might need all the allies in the future because there must be a good reason for him to leave her.

 

I think any smart and insightful Inquisitor suspects that Solas is more than he chooses to give away. In fact, the game hints at it - the approved Inquisitor (not just elven one) asks "there's more to that, isn't it?" after Solas laments over broken orb and can say to Leliana that something else must be going on for him to leave so suddenly.

 

 

 

I think that ancient elves would not approve Inquisitor at first but it's possible that they will learn to approve her when they see that she is at their side. It might not happen fast but there is no reason why it couldn't happen. Afterall she has the mark and she is with Solas.

 

There's a ton of reasons why they also wouldn't approve, aside form those I mentioned earlier. She IS an outsider and she is a mortal - that itself separates her from her ancestors, in more than one way.

 

Having a mark or being with Solas may not also mean much, as far as we know - I mean, what if there are fighting factions, even among the remnants? What if even ancient elves don't know that Solas is (apparently) Fen'Harel and for whatever reason he can't reveal himself as such? What if having the mark would only bring resentment, or somebody would try to kill her because of it?

 

As for elves not approving at first, but changing their mind after learning that she's on their side... how's that different for humans of Thedas? Wouldn't, in fact, a revered elf Inquisitor be a perfect ambassador for her people? That task alone - representing her people among other races of Thedas, might require her to stay in Inquisition, even if only on behalf of reinstating ancient elves back to Thedas.

[DSiKn355]

Don't you guys and girls think it has become very elf focused?

 

Like BioWare is attempting to do a Abraham Lincoln (abolish slavery) in their attempt to make the game more politically correct?

 

I just hope being PC doesn't effect the quality of the story telling, as they start fearing what a group of people may say or how they may react to certain topics they originally want to include.

 

Me personally I like stories that aint afraid to keep things realistic with aspects of racism, prejudice and other things born from beliefs, hate or ignorance.

 

Ashley's racist ways in ME1 was good.

I killed that b1tch straight away on Virmire for it but it was good that her character was defined in such a clear cut way that I knew exactly where I stood with her lol.

 

The prejudice towards elves in DA:O could be felt tremendously but in DA:I not so much.

 

I mean the only elves to you interact with don't even see themselves as elves.

Solas wants to help them as he wants to help all but Sera doesnt give a **** about elves period lol.

 

It's like that aspect is just written out.

 

I would love to say prejudice towards sexual preference.

 

A gay guy hating on women and saying "how could someone ever choose one as a partner after all their temperamental mood swings and unnatural bleed but doesn't die. It's clearly a sign they are the work of something unholy"

 

This prejudice would be both nice to have as someone may see this as a truth for them and it would serve as good comedy.

 

Sera could have had (but I don't actually know if she does or doesn't) a hole load of anti men dialogue given her weird take on things and how she speaks "arrows yeah?"

 

Being PC gets rid of these humors too through fear that someone will be narrow minded and not just see it as humor and take it with a pinch of salt rather than start crying and wanting to start a petition or get the LGBT involved lol.

[RINNZ]

Bro what?

[Grieving Natashina]

Bro what?

This thread had been going so well too.  

 

I don't think Sera's attitude with not being anti-men is being too PC.  Most lesbians I've talked to don't hate men.  Just like you don't hear a lot of gay guys being rude or hateful about women either.  

 

I'm not sure if you knew this, DSkiKn, but you'd be asking them to change the lore.  See, homophobia does not exist in Thedas.  Period, full stop.  You're free to read the codex about Sexuality in Thedas, but no one looks down on someone because of sexual identity.  They expect nobles to have heirs, but having an extra-marital lover of the same sex is treated no differently than having a lover of the opposite sex.  They aren't doing such...humor to be PC.  Before you mention Gamlen, he was a jerk and a pervert in general.  He leers over a female Hawke if they romance Isabela in the creepiest way.

 

Much of Tevinter's MO is producing the perfect mage, and that keeping up appearances is paramount, more so than in Orlais.  They still don't think there is anything wrong with homosexuality and in fact encourage with their slaves.  Dorian's father and his actions aren't because Dorian is gay.  If Dorian had played pretend and popped out a couple of kids while keeping a slave as a lover, his father wouldn't have cared.  

 

The story still would have been the same if Dorian was straight:  He didn't want to marry the girl picked out for him, he refused to play by his father's/Tevinter society's rules for producing the most powerful mage and his dad tried to change him using a very horrific form of dangerous magic.  Which could have left him brain dead.  However, since Dorian isn't straight, it can take on a deeper meaning.  

[RINNZ]

This thread had been going so well too.  
 
I don't think Sera's attitude with not being anti-men is being too PC.  Most lesbians I've talked to don't hate men.  Just like you don't hear a lot of gay guys being rude or hateful about women either.  
 
I'm not sure if you knew this, DSkin, but you'd be asking them to change the lore.  See, homophobia does not exist in Thedas.  Period, full stop.  You're free to read the codex about Sexuality in Thedas, but no one looks down on someone because of sexual identity.  They expect nobles to have heirs, but having an extra-marital lover of the same sex is treated no differently than having a lover of the opposite sex.  
 
Much of Tevinter's MO is producing the perfect mage, and that keeping up appearances is paramount, more so than in Orlais.  They still don't think there is anything wrong with homosexuality and in fact encourage with their slaves.  Dorian's father and his actions aren't because Dorian is gay.  If Dorian had played pretend and popped out a couple of kids while keeping a slave as a lover, his father wouldn't have cared.  
 
The story still would have been the same if Dorian was straight:  He didn't want to marry the girl picked out for him, he refused to play by his father's/Tevinter society's rules and his dad tried to change him using a very horrific form of dangerous magic.  Which could have left him brain dead.  However, since Dorian isn't straight, it can take on a deeper meaning.

What about Sera's dialogue made her sound anti-men? Bioware wouldn't do something like that.

And the whole Dorian thing, I don't know how I feel. Like, he's a good character and all, but his personal quest didn't get an applause from me. We keep seeing the same "gay man wants acceptance from his father" schtick over and over. When are we going to see something new?

I realize I'm playing with fire here, but I'd actually like someone to talk with this about.

[DSiKn355]

What about Sera's dialogue made her sound anti-men? Bioware wouldn't do something like that.

 

Sera could have had (but I don't actually know if she does or doesn't) a hole load of anti men dialogue given her weird take on things and how she speaks "arrows yeah?"

 

Being PC gets rid of these humors too through fear that someone will be narrow minded and not just see it as humor and take it with a pinch of salt rather than start crying and wanting to start a petition or get the LGBT involved lol.

 

 

 

What are you talking about?

 

Just enforcing my point yeah?

 

@Nat

 

I have never read the codex unless it was something I actually picked up and even then that got boring after a while lol.

 

So basically Thedas is like Greece during the time of the Roman empire lol.

 

I wasn't saying i need these things to happen just that it would have been a nice touch but alas it cannot be due to lore which is fine

[Grieving Natashina]

What about Sera's dialogue made her sound anti-men? Bioware wouldn't do something like that.

And the whole Dorian thing, I don't know how I feel. Like, he's a good character and all, but his personal quest didn't get an applause from me. We keep seeing the same "gay man wants acceptance from his father" schtick over and over. When are we going to see something new?

I realize I'm playing with fire here, but I'd actually like someone to talk with this about.

You're quoting the wrong person with that one.  No clue.  She seems to like or dislike a person based on their, well personality (as long as they aren't too "elfy"  Really Sera?)  Not due to gender or who they like to have sex with.

 

I hear you.  That is a story that's overdone and one of the big subjects in the gay KISA thread.  I want to see something different.

 

The change for me was that it was one of the only times that a video game company, especially a Western one, was even willing to handle this in such a tasteful manner.  It did get applause from me, but that's due to personal experience.  I got told that my mom should lock me up and "pray the gay away" as a bisexual teenager.  I got told that I should have had a lobotomy to "fix" me.  That "there was drugs" to "cure" me.  My own mother told me that she wished I was just gay or straight and "you will be if you meet the right gal or guy."  

 

I'm not asking anyone to feel the same way I do.  I can also understand why folks are tired of having gay characters (especially gay men) have their personal stories revolved mostly around their sexuality.  That quest hit home for me, and I found myself tearing up during it.  I don't want this to be the next big story arc for another LGBT character in future games.  I do think it's overdone.  However, nothing can take away my own feelings during that scene.  

 

@DkSin: Actually, most of Thedas is more like Canada: They don't give a fig either way.  Tevinter is based off of the Byzantine Empire, which was the Eastern Roman Empire.  This was after their peak of power, and Tevinter is so far a pretty good parallel of that. 

[RINNZ]

You're quoting the wrong person with that one.  No clue.  She seems to like or dislike a person based on their, well personality (as long as they aren't too "elfy"  Really Sera?)  Not due to gender or who they like to have sex with.
 
I hear you.  That is a story that's overdone and one of the big subjects in the gay KISA thread.  I want to see something different.
 
The change for me was that it was one of the only times that a video game company, especially a Western one, was even willing to handle this in such a tasteful manner.  It did get applause from me, but that's due to personal experience.  I got told that my mom should lock me up and "pray the gay away" as a bisexual teenager.  I got told that I should have had a lobotomy to "fix" me.  That "there was drugs" to "cure" me.  My own mother told me that she wished I was just gay or straight and "you will be if you meet the right gal or guy."  
 
I'm not asking anyone to feel the same way I do.  I can also understand why folks are tired of having gay characters (especially gay men) have their personal stories revolved mostly around their sexuality.  That quest hit home for me, and I found myself tearing up during it.  I don't want this to be the next big story arc for another LGBT character in future games.  I do think it's overdone.  However, nothing can take away my own feelings during that scene.  
 
@DkSin: Actually, most of Thedas is more like Canada: They don't give a fig either way.  Tevinter is based off of the Byzantine Empire, which was the Eastern Roman Empire.  This was after their peak of power, and Tevinter is so far a pretty good parallel of that.

Sorry to here about that.

[Grieving Natashina]

Sorry to here about that.

Thanks.  High school sucked, but I'm a lot stronger for it.  More stubborn too.  

[DSiKn355]

@DkSin: Actually, most of Thedas is more like Canada: They don't give a fig either way.  Tevinter is based off of the Byzantine Empire, which was the Eastern Roman Empire.  This was after their peak of power, and Tevinter is so far a pretty good parallel of that. 

 

I see.

 

Shame about the weird views of your mother... It really is weird.

I mean "pray the gay away" but then it's ok to be gay or straight just not bi?

 

That's just weird to me no offense.

 

For me i have always wondered why the sexuality of a gay or bi person (but more so gay) is the main topic of the person but then the obvious hit me lol...

 

They are called gay or bi or transsexual thus the label dictates their main focus.

 

That is what people see so that is what they focus on.

 

I think it would be good to have a gay/bi/transsexual person who isn't defined by their sexuality.

 

A straight person isn't defined by being straight so the same should be done for others I think.

 

And then maybe one day people wont be defined by their skin colour.... but here's to hoping right?   lmao

[Grieving Natashina]

No offense taken.  

 

My mom never said to "pray the gay away."  I not only grew up in a pretty secular household, one of my mom's best friends in high school was a gay black man.  In 1970.  It was others, a few people in the Bible Studies group (they'd corner me in the hallway) that tried to pull that on me.  My mom was not happy she found that out.  

 

She didn't understand being bisexual and thought it was a phase.  Some phase.  I realized when I was 12, got married to wonderful man, I'm monogamous...and I'm still bisexual.  Some conversations aren't worth bringing up, and my mom is in her 60s.  I don't feel like debating with her about my sexuality now like I did 20 years ago.  

 

A person's label rarely dictates their own focus.  It's more of a reflection of who they are. It's really on others that keep focusing on those labels.  That's why we keep inventing labels, to describe ourselves in a way that makes sense to others.  To have a connection to the rest of the world and maybe find those that feel the same way.  Personally, I hope that if one of my nephews, or my little niece is not straight, they can hold hands with their lover in public without being looked down upon, or worse.  

 

I agree with your points, but something I did want to correct you on.  Being transgender has nothing at all to do with sexual identity.   I've met a M t F transgender that had been a straight woman in a man's body.  Another lady I met had been a lesbian in a man's body.  One person that was going F to M was as straight man in a woman's body.   It's just as varied as the people that are born with their mental gender identity matching their body.  

 

The reason why they are usually under the LGBT umbrella is because they are often subject to much of the same existing discrimination laws as gay/lesbian folks are, as well as the general pain of being an total outsider.  Some do identity as LGB+, but others do not.  The saddest part is that there has been plenty of discrimination coming from within the LGB+ community towards transgender people because "they aren't really gay/lesbian."  Da hell?

 

I think you would really like Maevaris, from the comics.  She's from Tevinter, and a widow of one of Varric's cousins.  She's got a great personality, and a cool story arc.  She's transgender and while it was brought up once, that is far from her only identifying feature.  She's a favorite of mine, and I'd love to see her come into the next game.  David Gaider even said that he wanted Mae into the game, but by the time she was written, it was too late to add her and do it well.  You should look her up.  I think she's great and she's one of the reasons why I asked for the comics last Christmas.  

[BansheeOwnage]

+1 for not liking high school (though other people had it worse)

+1 for Canada, hooray!

+1 for Maevaris in the next game

 

Yup, I'm pretty sure my word limit is on cooldown for today.

[Grieving Natashina]

+1 for not liking high school (though other people had it worse)

+1 for Canada, hooray!

+1 for Maevaris in the next game

 

Yup, I'm pretty sure my word limit is on cooldown for today.

[RINNZ]

I just graduated high school last Tuesday. It's safe to say that I'm gonna miss it. My HS was probably the most LGBT friendly HS in the state. People like my little brother had nothing to fear, and it made us both happy.

BACK ON TOPIC.

Uh..I actually don't know to say right now. Female Krogan for LI?

Wait, wrong forum.

[Grieving Natashina]

Elven or human blonde warrior, that's either anti-Chantry or at least not as much of a fan of it.   That's my idea for now.  

[DSiKn355]

No offense taken.  

 

My mom never said to "pray the gay away."  I not only grew up in a pretty secular household, one of my mom's best friends in high school was a gay black man.  In 1970.  It was others, a few people in the Bible Studies group (they'd corner me in the hallway) that tried to pull that on me.  My mom was not happy she found that out.  

 

She didn't understand being bisexual and thought it was a phase.  Some phase.  I realized when I was 12, got married to wonderful man, I'm monogamous...and I'm still bisexual.  Some conversations aren't worth bringing up, and my mom is in her 60s.  I don't feel like debating with her about my sexuality now like I did 20 years ago.  

 

A person's label rarely dictates their own focus.  It's more of a reflection of who they are. It's really on others that keep focusing on those labels.  That's why we keep inventing labels, to describe ourselves in a way that makes sense to others.  To have a connection to the rest of the world and maybe find those that feel the same way.  Personally, I hope that if one of my nephews, or my little niece is not straight, they can hold hands with their lover in public without being looked down upon, or worse.  

 

I agree with your points, but something I did want to correct you on.  Being transgender has nothing at all to do with sexual identity.   I've met a M t F transgender that had been a straight woman in a man's body.  Another lady I met had been a lesbian in a man's body.  One person that was going F to M was as straight man in a woman's body.   It's just as varied as the people that are born with their mental gender identity matching their body.  

 

The reason why they are usually under the LGBT umbrella is because they are often subject to much of the same existing discrimination laws as gay/lesbian folks are, as well as the general pain of being an total outsider.  Some do identity as LGB+, but others do not.  The saddest part is that there has been plenty of discrimination coming from within the LGB+ community towards transgender people because "they aren't really gay/lesbian."  Da hell?

 

I think you would really like Maevaris, from the comics.  She's from Tevinter, and a widow of one of Varric's cousins.  She's got a great personality, and a cool story arc.  She's transgender and while it was brought up once, that is far from her only identifying feature.  She's a favorite of mine, and I'd love to see her come into the next game.  David Gaider even said that he wanted Mae into the game, but by the time she was written, it was too late to add her and do it well.  You should look her up.  I think she's great and she's one of the reasons why I asked for the comics last Christmas.  

 

Well concerning the labels thing I wasn't saying the person with the label focuses on it I was saying others focus on it and as a writer of a character is the "other" when they write the character they tend to focus on it.

 

It's the typical crap, you get a black character who grew up rough or from "the projects" you know?

 

LGBT like the feminist movements to me are jokes.

They start off with good intentions mostly but quickly escalate into bias bs preaching which just ends up doing the opposite of what they originally intended.

 

Just look at terms like "feminazi", give it time and there will be LGBT ones too.

 

It's ridiculous they can even try segregate Transsexuals when really Transsexuals have it the hardest.

Gays and Bi's don't need an expensive operation which here in England you can only get after 8 years plus of willingly dressing as the opposite sex for years in public eye before the operation gets the "ok"

 

That's like public ridicule in the hope the person will change their mind so they don't need to do the operation lol.

 

Aint never read any BioWare storyline comic... Suppose I should start as I may find them better than their games lol.

 

 

Back on Topic.

 

Just create DLC that expands upon companions and gives more chances to interact with your love interest.

 

Also a patch to make your love interest still interested in you after main story completion would help loads lol.

[AlanC9]

I have never read the codex unless it was something I actually picked up and even then that got boring after a while lol.

There's nothing wrong with not reading the Codex, but if you're not going to learn about the game world then why are you getting involved in arguments about the way the game world works? Aren't you the guy who was ranting about people needing to come at you with facts on the ME board?

[BansheeOwnage]

Elven or human blonde warrior, that's either anti-Chantry or at least not as much of a fan of it.   That's my idea for now.  

Sounds good. It is kind of odd how so many of the male romances are blond, but none of the female ones are.

 

Edit: Maevaris would be blonde too.

[Grieving Natashina]

....

 

For one, LGBT movement is not a joke.  I think you're looking at a few extremists as the reflection of a whole group.  Same with feminism.  I would do some research on the history of these things before setting your opinion in stone.  They shouldn't quit either asking for equal rights as non-straight people, neither should women or people that are Western minorities.  It's folks that are trying to use a few jerks to color their perceptions that are the problem.  It's the fact that people can't get over it.  Not the fault of those that are seeking equal rights, whether they be non-white, non-straight, transgender, female or mix of the above.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "femnazi" in the LGBT community.  Someone that's an extremist of any ideal comes from all walks of life.  I've seen feminists like me (hiya!)  that don't hate men, that are LGBT, and that roll their eyes at the extremists.  Those are the feminists I've encountered and had personal conversations with in the past more often than anyone else.

 

I don't argue that a few LGB+ people are meaning unnecessarily mean without cause towards transgender folks.  That's not even most of the community, just a few jerks.  Same as anywhere else.

 

I agree with your on topic idea.

 

 

Sounds good. It is kind of odd how so many of the male romances are blond, but none of the female ones are.

 

Edit: Maevaris would be blonde too.

I'd noticed that before.  So many brunettes, and one red head.  One elven lady available for the male PC to romance too.

[DSiKn355]

There's nothing wrong with not reading the Codex, but if you're not going to learn about the game world then why are you getting involved in arguments about the way the game world works? Aren't you the guy who was ranting about people needing to come at you with facts on the ME board?

 

Lose one argument and comes here to start another?

 

And I never said anything about how the world of DA works lol.

 

Just about writing becoming more politically correct

 

Stick to the facts bro lol

[AlanC9]

I lost? News to me. I guess I didn't get that memo; I remember getting bored, but that's it. You wanna head back there?

But yeah, it looks like you weren't actually saying snything about the DA world itself. Point to you, I guess.

[DSiKn355]

 

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For one, LGBT movement is not a joke.  I think you're looking at a few extremists as the reflection of a whole group.  Same with feminism.  I would do some research on the history of these things before setting your opinion in stone.  They shouldn't quit either asking for equal rights as non-straight people, neither should women or people that are Western minorities.  It's folks that are trying to use a few jerks to color their perceptions that are the problem.  It's the fact that people can't get over it.  Not the fault of those that are seeking equal rights, whether they be non-white, non-straight, transgender, female  or mix of the above.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "femnazi" in the LGBT community.  Someone that's an extremist of any ideal comes from all walks of life.  I've seen feminists like me (hiya!)  that don't hate men, that are LGBT, and that roll their eyes at the extremists.  Those are the feminists I've encountered and had personal conversations with in the past more often than anyone else.

 

I don't argue that a few LGB+ people are meaning unnecessarily mean without cause towards transgender folks.  That's not even most of the community, just a few jerks.  Same as anywhere else.

 

I agree with your on topic idea.

 

 

I'd noticed that before.  So many brunettes, and one red head.  One elven lady available for the male PC to romance too.

 

 

Femnazi was actually separate...But I think I am getting used to people not understanding me or just reading wrong lol.

 

Ok I get equal rights but sometimes it can't be done because the party that wants the equal right doesn't want the hardship that could come with it.

 

For example with working.

 

Women want the same pay but can't (generally) maintain the same responsibility as they get pregnant and don't have the same retirement age.

 

Some can see this as bs victimizing but to a company time is money and they don't want to have to pay someone who isn't working basically because it's bad business.

 

Certain topics like these are just never gonna be equal because it's impossible to make it so.

 

In the general sense equality should be a given and no "parties" should have to be formed to achieve this really.

 

But this is reality and reality is always biased unfortunately.

 

Bias to the man over the woman, rich over the poor, white over coloured.

 

We want to change things to become equal but its hard when society on a whole propagates these things to happen as a "norm"

 

But I will stop there before someone misunderstands me again lol

 

EDIT:

 

Sorry just gotta say...

 

I find political correctness going too far in it's assumptions of what is politically correct to say.

 

For example:

 

Calling someone a Dwarf or downsed is not politically correct.

 

Even though dwarfism and downs syndrome is what they have.

 

It's their condition if you will.

 

Eventually I believe homosexual people will not be called gay or lesbian as it will eventually be ruled as a derogatory term.

 

And then the silly side of equal rights is someone would complain that someone suffering from dwarfism is singled out from playing basket ball with "normal" sized children because of their condition.

 

Personally I would say that isn't the equal right you should be fighting for but some just see it as the person is a victim without looking at the bigger picture.

 

But sometimes people's pride stops them from seeing things more clearly.

 

That's why sports are all separated (women/men/wheelchair/etc) unless done for some kind of charity event.

 

Equality can only be done so far and political correctness can only work with somethings before it starts looking stupid or petty.

 

That's my take