Yes sir you understand.
Tali is great but it would have been awesome to be able to have a more renegade version of Tali and not just the pure sweet Tali. I wanted the Tali that told Garris when he got cheeky "yeah and I have a shotgun" lol.
So it wasn't just me that thought Tali's romance had a few shades of waifu-"notice me senpai"? Didn't want to upset anyone over a few scenes I've skimmed through on youtube?
She was No1 waifu material.So it wasn't just me that thought Tali's romance had a few shades of waifu-"notice me senpai"? Didn't want to upset anyone over a few scenes I've skimmed through on youtube?
Not gonna argue, but I am curious what do you consider would make a romance "along the lines of our favorite turian"
While I don't want "a Garrus" every game because he would loose he "uniqueness"
, there is something about the Cullen romance that reminds me of him, but can't put my finger on what?
Really? Cullen reminded me Kaidan in ME1 more than Garrus 
I am quite surprised to hear that you, guys, liked more Tali... I thought Liara was No1. Well I am straight, playing only straight romances, but for her - I would definitely make an exception (I didn't - Garrus is Garrus - but I would). She is so unique in every aspect of her beeing and she grew up during the trilogy, I liked that 
Really? Cullen reminded me Kaidan in ME1 more than Garrus
I am quite surprised to hear that you, guys, liked more Tali... I thought Liara was No1. Well I am straight, playing only straight romances, but for her - I would definitely make an exception (I didn't - Garrus is Garrus - but I would). She is so unique in every aspect of her beeing and she grew up during the trilogy, I liked that
I am quite surprised to hear that you, guys, liked more Tali... I thought Liara was No1. Well I am straight, playing only straight romances, but for her - I would definitely make an exception (I didn't - Garrus is Garrus - but I would). She is so unique in every aspect of her beeing and she grew up during the trilogy, I liked that
I want to like the character that is Liara T'Soni and her arc, but every time she appears (which is a lot) i can feel BW on the side going "your Shepard will adore this blue woman no matter what". I guess I'm still sore about how they retcon a Shepard that ignored her (which would be my main shep) or was mean to her *glares at the automatic hug on Illium and the LotSB DLC where shep woulld jump to save her over a romanced Garrus*. Add that to the fact that she is an asari, a race that makes me feel like being slapped because I'm a woman every time they appear in the story. 
Wow, this discussion is lively.... Anyhoo >.>'''
It seems that we have been discussing about different things
I don't think anybody ever got universal appraisal, and existence of people disagreeing with Inquisitor, wanting to tear them down or jealous of his/her power are the most natural thing in the world. However, a large portion of epilogue - and how famous and revered Inquisitor is - depends in large part on the player. We can have Inquisitors who are generally well-liked and respected among people and nobility or those who are either meh, or bad enough to not guarantee themselves support of others after dealing with Corypheus.
Also - finding an easy replacement for Inquisitor is problematic, even if only for one reason: our Inquisitor is built throughout the story as someone who becomes legend; one that will either build power to save or doom Thedas. If Inquisitor can be replaced - just like that - it would undermine the entire setup of the story, which is all about the rise of Inquisition and its leader.
Add to that the conflict I mentioned before - Inquisitor being bound by duty to Thedosians, forced to make a decision between two (possibly equal) choices adds great dramatic tension to the story. I see no reason why Bioware wouldn't go that way, instead of providing easy way out for the Herald. That would be such a cop out.
I haven't been talking about a DLC concentrating on romanced Lavellan and her adventures with Solas. I have been talking about a situation which could happen in the DAI's last DLC where it could be possible for romanced Lavellan to join Solas. So their story is resolved in a DLC and DA4 could start with a new protagonist. It also wouldn't be an adventure. It would be a decision where Lavellan would leave the inquisition for good and move on with her life.
.... Um, what makes you think I've been talking about something different?
His mission comes first but it doesn't meant that he doesn't love Lavellan or doesn't want to be with her.
Did I say that he doesn't love her or he doesn't want to be with her?
I only said that it might be irrelevant - and he seems to think that way, since he broke up with her. The mission he's dedicated to apparently requires him sacrificing their relationship on an altar of either duty or redemption and so far he chooses it over being with her, no matter how desperately he wants it.
Whether something would happen that might change his mind is an unknown, but so far - as far as we know - he keeps her at a distance.
I thought that you were talking about steering suspicions away from elves because Solas would want to restore elves by changing the people's attitudes towards them. I was disagreeing on that because the reason why he wants you to get allies is because the orb is elven and when people find out about that it might have some negative consequences if you haven't proved that you are a good ally.
I think Solas is desperate and he needs inquisition to get his orb back and he sees that if he helps inquisition and inquisition succeeds in defeating Corypheus then he can get his orb back. That is the most important thing for him because he needs that orb to help his people. He would do whatever it takes to help them so revealing Skyhold to people is quite minor price to pay for achieving his goal.
The fact that he helps Inquisition to achieve his goal is a no-brainer; he even says that to Inquisitor at one point (after Halamshiral). However, where else he'd want to reinstate ancient elves if not to Thedas itself? Like I said, I think that there's more to his mission than just restoring elves to what they were - but I'm pretty sure it requires change of attitude in Thedosians; not just towards elves, but likely magic and the Fade itself.
I think it depends on the inquisitor whether they suspected anything. Some of the inquisitors are probably confused at the end about his disappearance and they didn't suspect anything while others might have some suspicions earlier.
Possibly. Depends on how people RP. But, logically speaking, most Inquisitors who are actually insightful - and especially Lavellans who'd choose to romance him and probably spent more time with him off-screen - would have to have an inkling that he's more than just a powerful apostate Dreamer.
Heck, even if Solas eventually lost his nerve and didn't tell Lavellan who he is in last scene they have, I wonder how many times and how overtly he hinted at it at suitable occasions? IF he was smart about it, he would want to prepare her for the eventual Grand Reveal.
Alas, maybe he wasn't smart about it - after all, it seems that after he falls for Inquisitor all his rational thinking gets thrown out of the window. I still have no idea how he thought that it wouldn't end with a breakup as disastrous as it ended up to be.
I suspect that Abelas knew who Solas is so most likely the ancient elves would know who he is.
Abelas only seems o recognize that Solas is an ancient elf.
There is probably fighting factions among ancient elves. But how does that differ from humans on Thedas? There are also fighting factions among them. I believe that it's also possible that you are not safe even if you are inquisitor. People might try to assassinate you regardless where you are. What comes to mark it can be a good thing or a bad thing.
It's most likely that the ancient elves wouldn't approve you at first and this doesn't differ from the situation what you had when you became inquisitor so what are you trying to say?
What I'm trying to say is that it's not a guarantee that ancient elves would approve of Inquisitor or that she'd feel less of an outsider with them as he did with other Thedosians. That was my entire point.
Besides it's more likely that some of the ancient elves would approve you eventually.
Um, just like many Thedosians did, during various stages of Inquisition's growth.
I think inquisitor would a bad ambassador for ancient elves. Why would they want an elven inquisitor to represent them? Why would they trust her when she is not ancient elf? People on Thedas would loose their trust in you if you would be inquisitor and ambassador for ancient elves at the same time.
It could be exactly the same if she'd just try and join them.
Also - I wasn't just talking about ancient elves, but elves in general. What about city elves? What about the Dalish? Even if elven Inquisitor was always skeptical of things Dalish claimed (as mine did), she still wouldn't want to just write them off. Shunning people or groups would not only make her no better than them - it's also something Solas seems to disapprove of greatly.
I want to like the character that is Liara T'Soni and her arc, but every time she appears (which is a lot) i can feel BW on the side going "your Shepard will adore this blue woman no matter what". I guess I'm still sore about how they retcon a Shepard that ignored her (which would be my main shep) or was mean to her *glares at the automatic hug on Illium and the LotSB DLC where shep woulld jump to save her over a romanced Garrus*. Add that to the fact that she is an asari, a race that makes me feel like being slapped because I'm a woman every time they appear in the story.
I know I know... in every BW game I have that feeling... when they are trying to push you towards "prefered" choices... nice to resist though
I don't think anybody ever got universal appraisal, and existence of people disagreeing with Inquisitor, wanting to tear them down or jealous of his/her power are the most natural thing in the world. However, a large portion of epilogue - and how famous and revered Inquisitor is - depends in large part on the player. We can have Inquisitors who are generally well-liked and respected among people and nobility or those who are either meh, or bad enough to not guarantee themselves support of others after dealing with Corypheus.
Also - finding an easy replacement for Inquisitor is problematic, even if only for one reason: our Inquisitor is built throughout the story as someone who becomes legend; one that will either build power to save or doom Thedas. If Inquisitor can be replaced - just like that - it would undermine the entire setup of the story, which is all about the rise of Inquisition and its leader.
Add to that the conflict I mentioned before - Inquisitor being bound by duty to Thedosians, forced to make a decision between two (possibly equal) choices adds great dramatic tension to the story. I see no reason why Bioware wouldn't go that way, instead of providing easy way out for the Herald. That would be such a cop out.
This part of the epilogue is same for every inquisitor and I was referring to this when I talked that not everybody approves inquisitor. (http://dragonage.wik...e_(Inquisition)):
"I leave Skyhold now, knowing that power will continue to grow.
The Inquisitor is a symbol to many, a leader of the changing world order.
To others, (s)he has become a target.
They linger in the shadows, waiting for their day to come.
When it does, the Inquisition shall stand ready."
When people still consider the inquisitor as a legend then he/she is harder to replace but that would still be possible but it would have negative consequences.
The future of the inquisition could be much darker after the main events regardless what kind of person the inquisitor is. It could be a story where inquisitor raises to power and leads the inquisition to victory but quite soon after that she/he is betrayed and would be forced to resign from her/his position. It would also be much more interesting story and would affect to all inquisitors not just romanced Lavellans. Although it would be also interesting story when romanced inquisitor would have to decided whether to leave the inquisition or not. Although it wouldn't be that hard decision to my romanced Lavellans because they want to leave the inquisition.
.... Um, what makes you think I've been talking about something different?
You said:
"That's kinda obvious, isn't it? But that wasn't the issue we discussed about - the issue is whether there's anybody suitable to replace previous Inquisitor in case he/she would find themselves in a situation, in which they'd have to choose whether they stay with Inquisition, or - say - embark on new adventure (btw. I assume that the DLC would be substantial and won't focus on romance TOO much, considering that not everyone chose to play female elf or romance Solas. There HAS to be some sort of option for, say, befriended Inquisitors as well - or all of them, whether approved or not, considering that they still wield the Anchor)."
Because of that I wanted to clarify that I'm not assuming or wanting a DLC which concentrates on romanced Lavellan and what she will do with Solas if they would meet again and she would take him back.
Did I say that he doesn't love her or he doesn't want to be with her?
I only said that it might be irrelevant - and he seems to think that way, since he broke up with her. The mission he's dedicated to apparently requires him sacrificing their relationship on an altar of either duty or redemption and so far he chooses it over being with her, no matter how desperately he wants it.
Whether something would happen that might change his mind is an unknown, but so far - as far as we know - he keeps her at a distance.
You said:
"Also - whether he'd want it or not may be irrelevant. He does leave her after all and claims that he can't be with her - what's the reason for it we don't yet know, but it may encompass everything: from him not wanting to see her eventually wither a die, to not waning to risk her life or maybe her seeing him do something terrible... and might as well be all those things"
I was commenting on that and I was disagreeing because if he could have stayed he would have. I think it's quite clear that he must do something and he must do it alone for some reason. It's also possible that he wants to protect Lavellan but he definitely didn't leave her because he doesn't want to see her wither and die.
The fact that he helps Inquisition to achieve his goal is a no-brainer; he even says that to Inquisitor at one point (after Halamshiral). However, where else he'd want to reinstate ancient elves if not to Thedas itself? Like I said, I think that there's more to his mission than just restoring elves to what they were - but I'm pretty sure it requires change of attitude in Thedosians; not just towards elves, but likely magic and the Fade itself.
The ancient elves will come back. Assuming of course that they are Solas' people. Anyway I believe that whatever he is going to do will change the world forever. I don't think he needs to change the attitudes of the people because I believe that he is going to change the world. Maybe he will rip the veil open or release the old elven gods. Because if he would need just to change the people's attitudes then he wouldn't need the orb so badly and wouldn't need to take Mythal's power.
Possibly. Depends on how people RP. But, logically speaking, most Inquisitors who are actually insightful - and especially Lavellans who'd choose to romance him and probably spent more time with him off-screen - would have to have an inkling that he's more than just a powerful apostate Dreamer.
Heck, even if Solas eventually lost his nerve and didn't tell Lavellan who he is in last scene they have, I wonder how many times and how overtly he hinted at it at suitable occasions? IF he was smart about it, he would want to prepare her for the eventual Grand Reveal.
Alas, maybe he wasn't smart about it - after all, it seems that after he falls for Inquisitor all his rational thinking gets thrown out of the window. I still have no idea how he thought that it wouldn't end with a breakup as disastrous as it ended up to be.
I believe that it would be quite easy to roleplay an inquisitor who is so blinded by love that she doesn't notice the signs which could reveal Solas. The other possibility could be that the inquisitor didn't notice anything because she is concentrated on defeating Corypheus and don't pay attention to Solas because he isn't a threat.
I believe that Solas wasn't strong enough to resist Lavellan and that's why he let himself fall in love with her.
Abelas only seems o recognize that Solas is an ancient elf.
The way Abelas says "Elvhen like you" makes me think that he must know that Solas is Fen'Harel. He is so angry when he says that.
What I'm trying to say is that it's not a guarantee that ancient elves would approve of Inquisitor or that she'd feel less of an outsider with them as he did with other Thedosians. That was my entire point.
All I'm trying to say it's possible that some of the ancient elves could approve Lavellan. Because how she feels depends so much how people rolaplay her so it's up to the player to decide in which side she doesn't feel as an outsider
Also - I wasn't just talking about ancient elves, but elves in general. What about city elves? What about the Dalish? Even if elven Inquisitor was always skeptical of things Dalish claimed (as mine did), she still wouldn't want to just write them off. Shunning people or groups would not only make her no better than them - it's also something Solas seems to disapprove of greatly.
Inquisitor would be very bad ambassador to anybody because she/he needs to be neutral but if inquisitor would be ambassador then people might loose their trust in her/him. If inquisitor would become ambassador to elves then she/he would have to resign from being inquisitor.
This part of the epilogue is same for every inquisitor and I was referring to this when I talked that not everybody approves inquisitor. (http://dragonage.wik...e_(Inquisition)):
"I leave Skyhold now, knowing that power will continue to grow.
The Inquisitor is a symbol to many, a leader of the changing world order.
To others, (s)he has become a target.
They linger in the shadows, waiting for their day to come.
When it does, the Inquisition shall stand ready."
That is nothing other than a clear hint that Bioware isn't done with Inquisition or Inquisitors yet - and that were going to see new adventures, with new enemies and probably new problems to solve. It says very little about overall approval of Inquisitor in Thedas, because that's not the point of this part of epilogue.
I was commenting on that and I was disagreeing because if he could have stayed he would have. I think it's quite clear that he must do something and he must do it alone for some reason. It's also possible that he wants to protect Lavellan but he definitely didn't leave her because he doesn't want to see her wither and die.
Yes, but I never said there that he doesn't love her or wouldn't want to be with her. And we both seem to agree that for him, his mission comes first.
As for "he's definitely didn't leave her because he doesn't want to see her wither and die" - we don't know that yet. It could be at least part of reason why. For all we know he is immortal - she is not. And unless this changes for either of them, such is the inevitable end.
The ancient elves will come back. Assuming of course that they are Solas' people. Anyway I believe that whatever he is going to do will change the world forever. I don't think he needs to change the attitudes of the people because I believe that he is going to change the world. Maybe he will rip the veil open or release the old elven gods. Because if he would need just to change the people's attitudes then he wouldn't need the orb so badly and wouldn't need to take Mythal's power.
Oh, I agree that it will change the world forever and will likely have terrible consequences, but I don't think the solution is as easy as getting the orb/Mythal's power - it's all part of some sort of bigger plan. Whatever task he has, it likely isn't as easy than just restoring ancient elves/elven gods, because that itself likely changes very little.
It also can't be just straightforward tearing of the Veil again - if it was it, why would he help Inquisition, instead of helping Corypheus? Obviously, even if the world without Veil is a distant dream of his, it's not going to be achieved easily.
I believe that it would be quite easy to roleplay an inquisitor who is so blinded by love that she doesn't notice the signs which could reveal Solas. The other possibility could be that the inquisitor didn't notice anything because she is concentrated on defeating Corypheus and don't pay attention to Solas because he isn't a threat.
I believe that Solas wasn't strong enough to resist Lavellan and that's why he let himself fall in love with her.
Well if Inquisitor is concentrated on Corypheus I don't think she'd have time for romances As for being blinded with love... fair, considering that it's probably what happened to Solas xD
Though honestly, blinded or not, it's hard to argue about how badly he's handled it all. It might as well be "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation, but goddamn - if there's going to be some reconciliation, it won't be a smooth one.
The way Abelas says "Elvhen like you" makes me think that he must know that Solas is Fen'Harel. He is so angry when he says that.
Um, no he doesn't and no he's not. Abelas wasn't angry when he said that, plus he asks if there are elvhen such as him, when Solas reveals that his people yet linger. There was nothing in that dialogue that suggests Abelas knows anything about Solas being anything other than elvhen.
All I'm trying to say it's possible that some of the ancient elves could approve Lavellan. Because how she feels depends so much how people rolaplay her so it's up to the player to decide in which side she doesn't feel as an outsider
That is assuming that we will be give such an option. For all we know, we may not meet ancient elves at all, as wherever Solas goes, it might be away from everyone.
Inquisitor would be very bad ambassador to anybody because she/he needs to be neutral but if inquisitor would be ambassador then people might loose their trust in her/him. If inquisitor would become ambassador to elves then she/he would have to resign from being inquisitor.
I'm not talking about OFFICIAL ambassador position, but one that is more symbolic - a "bridge", if you'd like. And whether Lavellans want it or not, they - and their every action - represent their people. It's like that with everyone - whatever somebody is and what they do (especially when we're talking about position like that of Inquisitor) cast light or shadow on people they originate from (should I even mention what an uproar picking Vivienne - the first mage to be a divine - can cause?). That's not to say that they have to just represent elves. My elf is a mage and represents mages as well.
I want to like the character that is Liara T'Soni and her arc, but every time she appears (which is a lot) i can feel BW on the side going "your Shepard will adore this blue woman no matter what". I guess I'm still sore about how they retcon a Shepard that ignored her (which would be my main shep) or was mean to her *glares at the automatic hug on Illium and the LotSB DLC where shep woulld jump to save her over a romanced Garrus*. Add that to the fact that she is an asari, a race that makes me feel like being slapped because I'm a woman every time they appear in the story.
I believe this is the same case for Morrigan and Cassandra or at least the same intention of gearing you towards the pairing.
I think Morrigan is the "poster child" of DA like Liara (apparently) is for the ME series.
I believe this is the same case for Morrigan and Cassandra or at least the same intention of gearing you towards the pairing.
I think Morrigan is the "poster child" of DA like Liara (apparently) is for the ME series.
Naaaa....is Leliana the DA Liara. She can came back from the death and is present in all the DA games. Morrigan can be mistrated and hated by the PC. Liara is universally loved no matter what. Even if Shep don't want, she/he have to like her "because".
Morrigan and Cassandra can dislike and be disliked by the PC. Morrigan can be stabbed by a Warden (she is never actually killed, even if many wanted to think so). Cassandra can hate the Inquisitor and even drunk herself silly because she hate the PC. Liara can only be loved. No matter what. She can only love Shepard. It's an unrequited love if Shep is in another relationship, but is clear as day that she is infatuated of Shepard.
Naaaa....is Leliana the DA Liara. She can came back from the death and is present in all the DA games. Morrigan can be mistrated and hated by the PC. Liara is universally loved no matter what. Even if Shep don't want, she/he have to like her "because".
Morrigan and Cassandra can dislike and be disliked by the PC. Morrigan can be stabbed by a Warden (she is never actually killed, even if many wanted to think so). Cassandra can hate the Inquisitor and even drunk herself silly because she hate the PC. Liara can only be loved. No matter what. She can only love Shepard. It's an unrequited love if Shep is in another relationship, but is clear as day that she is infatuated of Shepard.
Hmmmm Yeah that "goodbye vision" on Earth seemed a bit too grand just for a simple goodbye.
Morrigan is posted as uber important within the DA universe though I believe.
Leliana... I just don't know because there isn't a must like scenario with Leliana and she doesn't seem that important unless she becomes divine I guess.
And for a straight male it feels like Cassandra is the "default" love interest set for you to go after.
But maybe that's just me and my fetish to chase after the woman that puts me in chains and tries to dominate me lol
Really would love a female Qunari to romance, it would be like having a choice for a sexy strong amazon woman 
Really would love a female Qunari to romance, it would be like having a choice for a sexy strong amazon woman
Or at least someone like your Aveline...
Naaaa....is Leliana the DA Liara. She can came back from the death and is present in all the DA games. Morrigan can be mistrated and hated by the PC. Liara is universally loved no matter what. Even if Shep don't want, she/he have to like her "because".
Well... but you can kill Leliana as well... I think Morrigan is closer to Liara than Leliana is. She is so charming..
Or at least someone like your Aveline...
No unfortunately Aveline is too weak.
when it comes to romance her character breaks down and she becomes something like a child.
p.s can you even romance her officially?
@CathyMe
The reason I finger Morrigan as being the same is because you can see that BioWare wanted/wants her to be key to something big.
Of all the cast I feel she and her actions will have a constant effect in the world of DA.
Liara is like "I am important and you must love me"
Morrigan is like "I am important and key to things greater than you can imagine"
Leliana is just there again with no real sense of purpose unless she becomes Divine.
Nah qunari and turian are still human like with appearance especially body shape if you are calling Tali's two fingers and bird shape like legs human looking. The krogan and that glowing squidlike race is more non human looking lol.
Well I don't really see Turians human-like at all. Their bodies nor face really says humanoid. When I first saw people making romance edits for Garrus and talking how dreamy he is, I hadn't played ME yet I was thinking that all these people are crazy liking this dinosaur lizard bird thingy. Though after playing ME I saw the light as well XD So personally I think Tali is more on Thane's level in humanoid scale and Turians are right there with Krogans.
@CathyMe
The reason I finger Morrigan as being the same is because you can see that BioWare wanted/wants her to be key to something big.
Of all the cast I feel she and her actions will have a constant effect in the world of DA.
Liara is like "I am important and you must love me"
Morrigan is like "I am important and key to things greater than you can imagine"
Leliana is just there again with no real sense of purpose unless she becomes Divine.
Well I don't really see Turians human-like at all. Their bodies nor face really says humanoid. When I first saw people making romance edits for Garrus and talking how dreamy he is, I hadn't played ME yet I was thinking that all these people are crazy liking this dinosaur lizard bird thingy. Though after playing ME I saw the light as well XD So personally I think Tali is more on Thane's level in humanoid scale and Turians are right there with Krogans.
It's kind of funny, because he's basically a short throw from a prawn. Christopher Johnson for LI in ME:N
Well I don't really see Turians human-like at all. Their bodies nor face really says humanoid. When I first saw people making romance edits for Garrus and talking how dreamy he is, I hadn't played ME yet I was thinking that all these people are crazy liking this dinosaur lizard bird thingy. Though after playing ME I saw the light as well XD So personally I think Tali is more on Thane's level in humanoid scale and Turians are right there with Krogans.
So your focus is the face then?
But I would say Thane looks like he came right out of "Swamp thing" or he is some kind of amphibious creature.
Tali:
The bird like calf's that bend backwards and her 3 digit hands and feet says non human to me despite what she may look like under the mask.
Garrus for me is obviously non human but just seemed like a "cat man" rather than something "alien" or "unknown"
@CathyMe
Liara just becomes SB and you don't actually choose for her to become SB right?
Whereas Morrigan becomes your advisor and key to defeating Cory by providing info whether you let her drink from the well or not.
Liara's becoming SB doesn't really effect anything story wise.
The main races of Mass Effect(not sure why there is a ME discussion on a DA forum but whatever) follow this spectrum in my opinion.
Human: Humans
Aliens similar to humans: Asari, Batarians, Drell, Quarians
Humanoid Aliens: Geth, Krogan, Salarians, Turians, Volus(maybe), Vorcha
Completely Alien: Elcor, Hanar, Keepers, Rachni, Reapers
Geth aint aliens they are machines/synthetics
But lets get back to DA before we derail this thread for the 100th time lol
True. But with Morrigan you not only see something that indicates that (the OGB and her mother) but you can make your PC a spanner in the works by denying her the DR and make quizzie drink from the well, even though you're punished for it. With liara you have no choice but make her SB and you would think that such a person would know of things like Cerberus infiltrators on Sur'kesh or atacking the Citadel.
I don't really think that there's any real equivalent across these games. You can get everyone to dislike your PC in all three games. While you're stuck with Varric in DA2, and they do try to establish him as Hawke's friend, you can at least develop more friction with him through rivalry.
No unfortunately Aveline is too weak.
when it comes to romance her character breaks down and she becomes something like a child.
p.s can you even romance her officially?
No, you can't, just few flirt options. But when you said "amazon woman" she came up my mind - in DA world she is more "amazon" than any other character
No, you can't, just few flirt options. But when you said "amazon woman" she came up my mind - in DA world she is more "amazon" than any other character
Well that wasn't my idea of "Amazon woman"
That would be more "Amazonian woman" as in Wonder Woman and characters like that.
This is an Amazon woman:
And then obviously you add the strong sense of character to match, especially if she is a Qunari female.
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