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DSiKn355

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Female Shepard flirts when she talks to Jacob and there is nothing you can do  about it except not talk to him. Mordin is different. He assumes that you are interested in him even though you haven't flirt with him. Anyway I think that scene is very funny.

 

Right ok

 

The things I miss being a straight guy playing as a male lol :D



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Grieving Natashina

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Female Shepard flirts when she talks to Jacob and there is nothing you can do  about it except not talk to him. Mordin is different. He assumes that you are interested in him even though you haven't flirt with him. Anyway I think that scene is very funny.

Try having any conversation as FemShep with him if you have the name Jacob as a common family name.  Like me.   :sick:



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Well then it seems you all prefer clear cut romance options with bi characters that way anyone can romance them so the options are even.

 

So long it isn't in your face that they are bi then I guess its bearable :D

 

You're making assumptions because we disagree with your posts

 

I prefer the set sexualities route but I still consider bi romances straight options 



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You're making assumptions because we disagree with your posts

 

I prefer the set sexualities route but I still consider bi romances straight options 

 

So why does set sexualities matter to you if you consider bi still as straight options?



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I like it, because it often doesn't look like a flirt option... I am often surprised what I am saying - when it quite doesn't match the meaning of offered choice (well at least what I think it should mean :D)

 

As for DA2 romances - it depens on player I think. Only Isabela was quite talkative ;) the others acted neutral (meaning not implying anything) = in my eyes rather straight, I was fine with that - I am also not walking the street shouting "I am on men!".

 

I have never any problem to choose my LI in any BW game so far... even from only 2... or 1 :D in KotOR / NWN (if they can be considered as true romances... I am so grateful we are so far from those now ;)) So - remember - it can be worse ;)



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Well then it seems you all prefer clear cut romance options with bi characters that way anyone can romance them so the options are even.

I prefer different sexualities when everybody has at least 2 options.



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So why does set sexualities matter to you if you consider bi still as straight options?

 

Because I prefer that route, and bi females are still available to straight males?  :huh:



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So why does set sexualities matter to you if you consider bi still as straight options?

I don't see your point... technically clearly bisexual were only Zevran, Isabela and Iron Bull. In DA2 were others also "bi", but as you cannot play male and female Hawke, whatever, at the same time... they were technically straight because they haven't implied otherwise (or they told your Hawke anything like "And before you, I had 3 men and 4 women..."). So my assumption is - they are with me, so they are straight. So - here you have your "straight" choices.



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DSiKn355

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I prefer different sexualities when everybody has at least 2 options.

 

Ok

Because I prefer that route, and bi females are still available to straight males?  :huh:

 

And Ok :)

 

Bi females romance options bother me when they are obviously bi like how Isabella was.

 

Leliana was fine as she wasn't obvious.



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Hanako Ikezawa

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Ok

 

And Ok :)

 

Bi females romance options bother me when they are obviously bi like how Isabella was.

 

Leliana was fine as she wasn't obvious.

Leliana wasn't obvious? Her personal mission in DAO is about dealing with her former mentor and lover Marjolaine. 



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Leliana wasn't obvious? Her personal mission in DAO is about dealing with her former mentor and lover Marjolaine. 

 

What mission is that? Is that a DLC mission?



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What mission is that? Is that a DLC mission?

No, it is her personal quest in Dragon Age: Origins. You have to do that quest in order to romance her. 

 

There was a DLC about the betrayal as well: Leliana's Song



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What mission is that? Is that a DLC mission?

No, it is her personal mission in the base game after which the player can choose to harden her.

 



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What mission is that? Is that a DLC mission?

 

Her personal mission. And in her DLC "Leliana's song" is even more flashed out what their relationship was.



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Thank you all for that lol :D

 

So her bi nature is still not obvious until you are at that final romancing point right?

 

So to me it's not obvious as that is what it is unless I romance her right?

 

Or play the DLC lol



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Thank you all for that lol :D

 

So her bi nature is still not obvious until you are at that final romancing point right?

 

So to me it's not obvious as that is what it is unless I romance her right?

 

Or play the DLC lol

 

Is quite clear just making her personal mission, no matter if you do the romance or not. But for me I think it was even more abvious because all my female elves where ninjamanced by Leliana. :lol:



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I don't see your point... technically clearly bisexual were only Zevran, Isabela and Iron Bull. In DA2 were others also "bi", but as you cannot play male and female Hawke, whatever, at the same time... they were technically straight because they haven't implied otherwise (or they told your Hawke anything like "And before you, I had 3 men and 4 women..."). So my assumption is - they are with me, so they are straight. So - here you have your "straight" choices.

 

 

No, they weren't "technically straight" just because you can't play as both a male and female in the same playthrough.  That's not how bisexuality works.  A bisexual woman married to a man isn't "technically straight".  Similarly, a bisexual romance with an opposite sex PC isn't "technically straight".

 

Bi females romance options bother me when they are obviously bi like how Isabella was.

 

Leliana was fine as she wasn't obvious.

 

Huh?  You only like bisexual female romances when they don't indicate that they are bisexual?  Or do you mean that you don't want bisexual female LIs to be promiscuous?


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#1243
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Is quite clear just making her personal mission, no matter if you do the romance or not. But for me I think it was even more abvious because all my female elves where ninjamanced by Leliana. :lol:

 

Well (again) my experience is different as I am a straight male that only plays with a male character so any special circumstances that happens to female mc's has never happened to me.

 

Huh?  You only like bisexual female romances when they don't indicate that they are bisexual?  Or do you mean that you don't want bisexual female LIs to be promiscuous?


Bi with no indication is what I like.

And I really wouldnt want a character like Anders again that makes advances towards you as soon as you meet and then goes in a mood when you reject them lol.

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No, they weren't "technically straight" just because you can't play as both a male and female in the same playthrough.  That's not how bisexuality works.  A bisexual woman married to a man isn't "technically straight".  Similarly, a bisexual romance with an opposite sex PC isn't "technically straight".

To be fair, Bioware did originally sell it as the person you're replying to described.

Later during the GaymerX that crushed my dreams did they change their stance and confirm them all to be bisexual. 



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No, they weren't "technically straight" just because you can't play as both a male and female in the same playthrough.  That's not how bisexuality works.  A bisexual woman married to a man isn't "technically straight".  Similarly, a bisexual romance with an opposite sex PC isn't "technically straight".

I think they meant that from an ingame perspective, you don't know they're bi because you can't play both Hawkes at once, whereas we meta-know it when we play. I could be wrong though.

 


I can't see any lesbian fans of Cass being upset that straight women are being represented with Cassandra.  I mainly see bi/lesbian Cass fans a little hurt and very annoyed by the complaining about her looks that, I stress again, a few straight men have been doing.  Some of those posters are so damned loud, unfortunately.

I'm in the latter category. I think it's really cool that they have someone like her as a straight option, and to me it shows how much some people need to grow up. I was fairly disappointed at first, partly because it took almost til the end of the game after using every flirt option for her to reject my Quizzy, and partly for an odd personal coincidence. I'm still a bit disappointed, but I no longer think they should use the DA2 route for romances (which has good and bad points) and am OK with her being off-limits. Just annoyed that I like no one else ^_^



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I think they meant that from an ingame perspective, you don't know they're bi because you can't play both Hawkes at once, whereas we meta-know it when we play. I could be wrong though.

 

Either way it doesn't matter.  Just because Merrill doesn't explicitly say she's bisexual, it doesn't make her 'technically straight'.  That's kind of a silly assertion, no?


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Either way it doesn't matter.  Just because Merrill doesn't explicitly say she's bisexual, it doesn't make her 'technically straight'.  That's kind of a silly assertion, no?

Yeah, regardless of wants Merrill is confirmed to be bisexual. 

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Either way it doesn't matter.  Just because Merrill doesn't explicitly say she's bisexual, it doesn't make her 'technically straight'.  That's kind of a silly assertion, no?

Yeah, it is. But it's still true that you wouldn't know her sexuality just by playing the game once, say as male Hawke.



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Yeah, it is. But it's still true that you wouldn't know her sexuality just by playing the game once, say as male Hawke.

 

Yeah, but not knowing her sexuality isn't the same as her being 'technically straight'.

 

It's kind of annoying that people assume that, to be honest.


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Yeah, but not knowing her sexuality isn't the same as her being 'technically straight'.

 

It's kind of annoying that people assume that, to be honest.

No argument here.