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[Andreas Amell]

I wonder if Bioware intends to continue replacing every ruler of the different Thedosian countries. Origins had King Cailan die and we determined his successor. Viscount Dumar of Kirkwall was killed with no heir to succeed him. Sebastien Vael later assumed the throne in Starkhaven. We determine the fate of the Orlesian throne but Empress Celene can remain. And we also determine the next Divine after Justinia.

 

The lore has indicated that Nevarra's King Markus is very old and has no offspring. His heir, Ferdinand, has shown no interest in the throne. So will we have to determine the next ruler in the future?

 

I also have this nagging feeling Antiva's King Fulgeno II will die in the near future and we'll be introduced to a candidate for the often joked 'Queen of Antiva'.

 

Is this one of the changes that Flemeth foretold, or is it simply coincidence?

[TK514]

It wouldn't be a Dragon Age game if the PC weren't given unreasonable influence over the sovereign governments of Thedas.

[Broganisity]

Well, Nevarra has a really long list of potential replacements for their king: Cassandra Pentaghast says she's a solid Seventy-Eighth in line for the throne. So unless some big civil war breaks out as the Pentaghast family starts knocking itself off in the hopes of securing the throne. . .?

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Nawww.

You forgot my favourite choice of all......

Bhelen!

[thetinyevil]

I wonder if Bioware intends to continue replacing every ruler of the different Thedosian countries. Origins had King Cailan die and we determined his successor. Viscount Dumar of Kirkwall was killed with no heir to succeed him. Sebastien Vael later assumed the throne in Starkhaven. We determine the fate of the Orlesian throne but Empress Celene can remain. And we also determine the next Divine after Justinia.

 

The lore has indicated that Nevarra's King Markus is very old and has no offspring. His heir, Ferdinand, has shown no interest in the throne. So will we have to determine the next ruler in the future?

 

I also have this nagging feeling Antiva's King Fulgeno II will die in the near future and we'll be introduced to a candidate for the often joked 'Queen of Antiva'.

 

Is this one of the changes that Flemeth foretold, or is it simply coincidence?

Seems to be a pattern doesn't. It depends where the next game takes place and what the goals of the PC are.

[Heimdall]

It wouldn't be a Dragon Age game if the PC weren't given unreasonable influence over the sovereign governments of Thedas.

I love the way they handled the Divine Victoria choice. I'd like them to take it as a model for future instances. The PC influenced the decision only indirectly and their preferred candidate may not win.

[NaclynE]

I wonder if Bioware intends to continue replacing every ruler of the different Thedosian countries. Origins had King Cailan die and we determined his successor. Viscount Dumar of Kirkwall was killed with no heir to succeed him. Sebastien Vael later assumed the throne in Starkhaven. We determine the fate of the Orlesian throne but Empress Celene can remain. And we also determine the next Divine after Justinia.

 

The lore has indicated that Nevarra's King Markus is very old and has no offspring. His heir, Ferdinand, has shown no interest in the throne. So will we have to determine the next ruler in the future?

 

I also have this nagging feeling Antiva's King Fulgeno II will die in the near future and we'll be introduced to a candidate for the often joked 'Queen of Antiva'.

 

Is this one of the changes that Flemeth foretold, or is it simply coincidence?

 

True people have commonly replaced previous rulers but frankly I would hate to have my warden be replaced in either a DLC or upcoming game which he/she just obtained the throne unless they somehow became a tyrant or full darkspawn? I am still leaning and saying sure if it's not pertaining to a character I had to have go through hell with. I am just afraid this might discourage me into wanting to never replay DAO/DAA again. It was cool how my character went through hell to become king/queen in DAO/DAA but killing them off in a DAI DLC or newer game would kind of break my heart a tad bit. Lol. It would be awesome writing but this is my character were talking about. Lol.

[Aimi]

It wouldn't be a Dragon Age game if the PC weren't given unreasonable influence over the sovereign governments of Thedas.

It wouldn't be a BioWare game, really. The Citadel Council, Wrex/Wreav, Supreme Chancellor Janarus...

[Potato Cat]

Well, Nevarra has a really long list of potential replacements for their king: Cassandra Pentaghast says she's a solid Seventy-Eighth in line for the throne. So unless some big civil war breaks out as the Pentaghast family starts knocking itself off in the hopes of securing the throne. . .?

Civil war's probably on the horizon. The Van Markham's are still kicking about and no doubt salivating over dat throne, while others think a third dynasty should take over. Combine with the fact the current king is super old, there's going to be a new ruler of Nevarra sooner or later.

 

Plus, we have the Anderfels, where the King's apparently very weak so potential there. Antiva's got the Crows making any political situation especially temporary. We've already caused the replacement of the old Arishok, WoT vol.2 revealed Rasaan is to take over as the new Ariqun, and finally it also hinted at a push for major reforms in Tevinter. In short, I'll be very surprised if there's a nation left where we haven't had at least an indirect role in choosing leadership. Maybe Rivain.

[TK514]

It wouldn't be a BioWare game, really. The Citadel Council, Wrex/Wreav, Supreme Chancellor Janarus...

An excellent point.

[Andreas Amell]

Rivain doesn't seem to have an absolute authority in their culture. But I'm curious about the future of the Felicisima Armada and it's place in llomerryn. The massacre of the Circle at Dairsmuid could still have repercussions, as the late First Enchanter was the daughter of a Raider captain.  

 

The shadow influence of the Antivan Crows might be coming to a turn if Bioware does keep changing the heads of state. We already undermine their reputation in Origins. I surely don't mind teaming up with Zevran again and surviving the streets of Antiva City.

[Heimdall]

Rivain doesn't seem to have an absolute authority in their culture. But I'm curious about the future of the Felicisima Armada and it's place in llomerryn. The massacre of the Circle at Dairsmuid could still have repercussions, as the late First Enchanter was the daughter of a Raider captain.

The shadow influence of the Antivan Crows might be coming to a turn if Bioware does keep changing the heads of state. We already undermine their reputation in Origins. I surely don't mind teaming up with Zevran again and surviving the streets of Antiva City.

I doubt you'd see him for more than a questline or two.

Really I'd like to see a portrayal of the Crows that actually lives up to their reputation. Repeatedly failing to kill the protagonists just kinda makes them look pathetic and hard to take seriously.

I had an idea for DA4 that involves the new PC's Skyhold analog being a captured and enchanted Qunari Dreadnaught. We'd then get a new batch of advisors and war table analogue. "Admiral" Isabella in her new big hat would be the military advisor, maybe we could get a Crow Guildmaster working with as as our espionage advisor. That'd be interesting.

[Andreas Amell]

Having a ship for a base makes more sense if we're travelling across Thedas. It's nice that we can zip around Orlais and Ferelden as we please. But the time span and location of harder levels puts the events into question. How could we ignore what's happening in the Dales and Emprice du Lion when we zip all the way to the Forbidden Oasis and Western Approach?

 

The Antivan Crows were not easy foes for me. I've replayed the encounters many times and I still find it a challenge. Having the Grey Warden defeat them should be legendary - the first crack in their reputation. That could be a reason to support a new monarch of Antiva

[thats1evildude]

I'm pretty sure Antiva's monarchy is laughably irrelevant. And the qunari have no kings.

[Andreas Amell]

It was King Fulgeno II who appointed Josephine as Antivan ambassador to Orlais. So the monarchy must have some powers, if mostly ceremonial. I don't care about influencing the leaders of the Qunari. Sten became the new Arishok. That's good enough for me.

[KaiserShep]

I'm pretty sure Antiva's monarchy is laughably irrelevant. And the qunari have no kings.

 

They have a new Arishok, but he better watch out, because in the shadows: the Arishok.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

They have a new Arishok, but he better watch out, because in the shadows: the Arishok.

That's so deep, I can almost see adele rolling in there.

[Daerog]

The future of Thedosian politics seems pretty grim if we keep putting a ruler in power who likely won't establish a dynasty, but be the end of one.

 

Except for Orzammar, all the other rulers seem to be temporary holders.

 

Fereldan: A queen who will not marry another except for a Grey Warden, just a Grey Warden, or two Grey Wardens. Sweet, so the writer's seem to be telling us that either the Couslands will be the next dynasty or Fereldan is going to be divided as to who will lead them in the next generation.

 

Kirkwall: Who cares? It's horrible there and still recovering, and Hawke is no longer there.

 

Orlais: Another queen/empress who will likely not have a child... maybe the emperor, but he has remained a widower for years, doesn't seem to be looking for a new wife, and is getting older... kind of like the writers again are leaving Orlais open for someone to be named heir outside the current line, maybe a cousin... if there are anymore...

 

Stable dynasties seem to be getting out of fashion in Thedas. At this point, Tevinter is looking like a very stable Thedosian nation (excluding Qunari and the scattered tribes/clans of Thedas).

[caradoc2000]

A good ruler is a must when you try to draw a straight line. I wouldn't replace them.

[Aimi]

A good ruler is a must when you try to draw a straight line. I wouldn't replace them.

my trick is using the edge of a piece of paper

[caradoc2000]

my trick is using the edge of a piece of paper

That looks pretty silly on a throne, tho.

[esh1996]

I'd like a Civil War story line somewhere (Navarra?) where we choose between 2-3 different candidates for the throne, and then have a completely unique questline for each choice. Like the Iorveth or Vernon Roche choice in The Witcher 2, where there are two completely different stories from that point onwards each having you fight on opposites sides of the major conflict. Like the Templar-Mage choice in DA:I but x100!
And also instead of having your chosen candidate win simply because you chose them (like 99% of our choices in DA games), instead all that choice does is select the story path you will follow. Your choices from then onwards (battle tactics and politics) define whether your candidate will win the throne, or die, or whatever... These small choices which define the outcome should be done behind the scenes (like the Divine choice in DA:I) and also not be obviously black or white, so you don't know whether you've suceeded until you reach the end of the questline.
Maybe each of the potential candidates for the throne could also be Romance Options? Where you have the opportunity to romance your chosen contender for the throne. And if you help them to victory you could become their Wife/Husband/Lover or even break off your relationship, but the relationship might be tragic if you end up on the loosing team and your beloved is killed by their enemies in battle...
What do you guys think?

[KaiserShep]

The future of Thedosian politics seems pretty grim if we keep putting a ruler in power who likely won't establish a dynasty, but be the end of one.

 

Except for Orzammar, all the other rulers seem to be temporary holders.

 

Fereldan: A queen who will not marry another except for a Grey Warden, just a Grey Warden, or two Grey Wardens. Sweet, so the writer's seem to be telling us that either the Couslands will be the next dynasty or Fereldan is going to be divided as to who will lead them in the next generation.

 

Kirkwall: Who cares? It's horrible there and still recovering, and Hawke is no longer there.

 

Orlais: Another queen/empress who will likely not have a child... maybe the emperor, but he has remained a widower for years, doesn't seem to be looking for a new wife, and is getting older... kind of like the writers again are leaving Orlais open for someone to be named heir outside the current line, maybe a cousin... if there are anymore...

 

Stable dynasties seem to be getting out of fashion in Thedas. At this point, Tevinter is looking like a very stable Thedosian nation (excluding Qunari and the scattered tribes/clans of Thedas).

 

Meh, dynasties are for the birds, 80's soap operas and Chinese vases anyway. May the monarchy perish!