Some new details, according to Rock, Paper, Shotgun:
1. Again, this is strictly specific to each game and specific to online multiplayer. Game ban will not affect launching the game in Offline Mode, nor will it affect using Steam itself.
2. At least initially, only a select number of developers will be given this power.
3. Valve retains the final say. If a developer abuses this to unfairly or falsely ban people, Valve can revoke their power.
Valve screws up again. Developers now allowed to ban Steam users from playing their games.
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Posté 03 mai 2015 - 12:08
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Are they also including single player games in this banning stuff?
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Posté 03 mai 2015 - 03:02
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Are they also including single player games in this banning stuff?
Nope. Multiplayer only. Online only. Doesn't affect Offline Mode or the Steam client itself.
#104
Posté 04 mai 2015 - 04:08
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Nope. Multiplayer only. Online only. Doesn't affect Offline Mode or the Steam client itself.
OK there was talk of single player games getting VAC bans on the steam forums
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Posté 04 mai 2015 - 04:39
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OK there was talk of single player games getting VAC bans on the steam forums
Which games? Any details about the bannings? If these bans are not justified, everyone needs to know.
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Posté 04 mai 2015 - 05:56
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Nope, but they could ban you for modifying the source code. Which might be even implemented for products that don't want the users to mod.
http://www.vg247.com...uses-confusion/
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Posté 04 mai 2015 - 06:16
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Pretty much expected. Right from release I've been reading about what a nightmare GTA V is to mod, and a recent patch pretty much broke all the mods. Whether that was intentional or not, it's clear Rockstar is Hellbent on cracking down on GTA V modding.
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Posté 04 mai 2015 - 06:46
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OK there was talk of single player games getting VAC bans on the steam forums
VAC is completely different.
A VAC ban is done by a program and it only bans when it detects cheats or hacks. You can be an ***hole or a troll, but as long as VAC doesn't detects your cheats, you'll never be banned by VAC. If other people report you of cheating or being a disruptive player, Valve will NEVER manually ban you.
Usually a VAC ban only prevents you from playing on "VAC protected" servers. That means you should still have access to single player/offline game content and other servers that aren't "VAC protected." Unless there are bugs in the system that prevent those who are VAC-banned from playing single player or offline games. Then I say those cheaters still deserve it.
However, this new "Game Ban" policy means certain developers now have the ability to decide and inform Valve to ban players from playing their games. That means no matter how carefully Valve implement this new system, there is ALWAYS room for abuse and unfair bans.
I still think if a game supports this "Game Ban" policy, it should be clearly labeled and stated on its Steam Store page. So a person would know before he made the purchase.
#109
Posté 04 mai 2015 - 09:47
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Why is Rockstar ticked off about modding?
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Posté 04 mai 2015 - 09:48
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Which games? Any details about the bannings? If these bans are not justified, everyone needs to know.
NO actual games but idle gossip..
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Posté 04 mai 2015 - 09:58
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Why is Rockstar ticked off about modding?
No idea, but it seems to be something to do with protecting GTA Online from... ...something.
NO actual games but idle gossip..
Okay. Still, always good to keep a look out.
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Posté 04 mai 2015 - 10:13
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Speaking of GTA modding...
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#113
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:17
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Speaking of GTA modding...
I wish I knew how to do that
#114
Posté 11 mai 2015 - 03:02
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And what about unfair punishment? There is talk about bans for people modding single player GTA V on steam. "single player" not multiplayer. How is punishment like that fair?
It's to do with the code injection some mods do which injects code into memory..
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Posté 11 mai 2015 - 03:10
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"It's nothing but trash" he says.
#116
Posté 11 mai 2015 - 03:11
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I don't like they can personally ban people. What's to stop them from banning someone who made a really bad review. Once you buy a game you should own it. Unless you cheat. I don't see why honestly you should be able to be banned for life from a game you own unless your cheating.
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Posté 11 mai 2015 - 03:25
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"It's nothing but trash" he says.
Am I missing a joke here?
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Posté 11 mai 2015 - 03:31
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Am I missing a joke here?
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Posté 11 mai 2015 - 05:17
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And what about unfair punishment? There is talk about bans for people modding single player GTA V on steam. "single player" not multiplayer. How is punishment like that fair?
It's to do with the code injection some mods do which injects code into memory..
According to Rockstar, if there was any "bans" on single player mods, then it was unintentional. Here's the relevant quote:
We have always appreciated the creative efforts of the PC modding community and we still fondly remember the awesome zombie invasion mod and original GTA map mod for GTAIV PC among many other classics. To be clear, the modding policy in our license has not changed and is the same as for GTAIV. Recent updates to GTAV PC had an unintended effect of making unplayable certain single player modifications. This was not intentional, no one has been banned for using single player modifications, and you should not worry about being banned or being relegated to the cheater pool just for using single player PC mods. Our primary focus is on protecting GTA Online against modifications that could give players an unfair advantage, disrupt gameplay, or cause griefing. It also bears mentioning that because game mods are by definition unauthorized, they may be broken by technical updates, cause instability, or affect your game in other unforeseen ways.
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Posté 11 mai 2015 - 05:26
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I don't like they can personally ban people. What's to stop them from banning someone who made a really bad review. Once you buy a game you should own it. Unless you cheat. I don't see why honestly you should be able to be banned for life from a game you own unless your cheating.
All Valve are trying to do is outsource policing of cheating and disruptive behaviour, which as I said, is probably necessary as they're a small company with a huge catalogue. As I've highlighted throughout this thread, it is strictly for in-game activities, strictly for multiplayer games, and Valve retains the final say. Game ban does not affect Offline Mode, or access to the Steam client, activities outside the games are not valid grounds for banning, and if a developer abuses their power, Valve can revoke it.
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Posté 18 mai 2015 - 05:10
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According to Rockstar, if there was any "bans" on single player mods, then it was unintentional. Here's the relevant quote:
Thank you for that quoted text. OK now feel informed somewhat.
