The one example is you reading all your posts. But the problem is, you don't see anything wrong with them.
So how am I to provide an example when you'll just ignore it?
Now why would I be holding a grudge against you? I have no reason to do so. This is just absurd, bordering on paranoia.
The one example is you reading all your posts. But the problem is, you don't see anything wrong with them.
So how am I to provide an example when you'll just ignore it?
What ,wait , wait , wait how me reading all my posts makes my posts nonsensical and/or contradictory when it isn't even content of that posts? 
Im still waiting for real example of contradiction on my side.
Ok im done after this im certain your brain can't compreheand the simplest concept that me insisting that dao arcane warrior is different than dai arcane warrior but dai arcane warrior is the same thing that KC is,isn't me insisting that dao arcane warrior is different thing than KC and yet same thing .
As LolandStuff said, that video was extremely uncalled for and it's a shame that any calls for civility that people ask, end up being so ignored in favour of you openly mocking everyone would doesn't agree with you, or claiming that they're hostile towards you?
If you cannot understand that the rest of us find your posts to be poorly worded, barely coherent, littered with logical fallacies and baffling incongruous assertions, then surely this should indicate to you, that the fault does not lie with the people reading your posts, but might instead be down to the one who happened to craft those posts in the first place?
Furthermore, you refuse to accept any quotations presented to you from myself and others that highlight that your contrarian attitude and statements, which is what people find some eminently frustrating when trying to have a reasoned discussion with you?
If you really insist on insulting others, while harbouring an extreme persecution complex when anyone does so much as slightly disagree with you, perhaps you change your screenname to Eric Cartman and be done with it, the comparison really is quite striking?
But hopefully that won't be necessary, I'm hoping that polite and friendly discourse will somehow win the day?
Now why would I be holding a grudge against you? I have no reason to do so. This is just absurd, bordering on paranoia.
I see you have edited , so i will respond on that.
Sorry pal you can't claim paranoia not in thread you posted random and malicious comments toward me (for example post 86) ,and then yet again accused my post of being contradictive ,while being unable to provide an example when asked. 
First provide example then we can talk about legitimate criticism.
You see, I have as much interest quoting you as you have understanding others' posts. Which is pretty much zero.
But you keep ignoring the big difference, that Cillian isn't an Arcane Warrior. He's just a modern elf that's aping what he thinks the Arcane Warriors were like, when what he's doing is more akin to a Knight Enchanter than anything else? Saying that he's an actual Arcane Warrior because he calls himself one, doesn't mean that what he's doing actually is accurate?
Cillian probably learned the AW discipline by combining consultations with spirits with research on ancient elven ruins (that war table mission in SP confirms that he's one of the Inquisition's experts on elven lore). It's still going to be somewhat different from the original art, but considering the game itself labels him as an Arcane Warrior, I'd consider him one. I do agree though that AW and KE are not the same: the latter has no doubt been tweaked over the centuries by various Circle mages making it very different from its ancestral discipline. That Cillian and the KE spec share a lot of skills in common is irrelevant as this was almost certainly the result of BioWare being unwilling to construct more gameplay mechanics for multiplayer: instead they simply blended KE and RM in an effort to create a unique multiplayer spec.
Cillian probably learned the AW discipline by combining consultations with spirits with research on ancient elven ruins (that war table mission in SP confirms that he's one of the Inquisition's experts on elven lore). It's still going to be somewhat different from the original art, but considering the game itself labels him as an Arcane Warrior, I'd consider him one. I do agree though that AW and KE are not the same: the latter has no doubt been tweaked over the centuries by various Circle mages making it very different from its ancestral discipline. That Cillian and the KE spec share a lot of skills in common is irrelevant as this was almost certainly the result of BioWare being unwilling to construct more gameplay mechanics for multiplayer: instead they simply blended KE and RM in an effort to create a unique multiplayer spec.
This was my thinking as well, that Cillian's spec is a hybrid of some of the various magical specs we've seen before, but Bioware labelled him as an Arcane Warrior simply to differentiate him from regular Knight-Enchanters, as well as to show that some Elves are interesting in learning this forgotten part of their history, as well as give the fans who've been wanting Arcane Warriors to return something fun to play with in multiplayer?
So I'm completely onboard with everything you said, just that in my estimation, his self-taught hybrid spec doesn't make him enough of an Arcane Warrior, at least when one compares it to the original art he's trying to emulate? But that's just me, we have no other Arcane Warriors in Inquisition to compare him to that would see how close he gets and see whether or not Bioware have indeed retconned or altered the skills since the first game?
(And that TKS is how you disagree with someone without biting their heads off?)
It's quite simple really.
Humans stole ancient elven technique and twisted it into something else. Any remnant of ancient elven glory have always been stolen by thedasian humans and called their own.
If it keeps the dragon from turning me into street pizza I'm ok with that.
It's just sad tbh.
In this game, humans claim superiority over elves and yet depend on them so damn much. According to Solas, Elven civilization was waaaay ahead of Human civilization. To them, magic was a lifestyle and elves lived harmoniously with it and incorporated magic in their daily lives. That sounds just as wonderful as Solas describes it.
You see, I have as much interest quoting you as you have understanding others' posts. Which is pretty much zero.
But i did understood your post ,except perhaps part about somehow me reading all my posts is being example of my posts being nonsensical and contradictive what made no sense whatsoever.
I asked for 1 example of content in my post that was for example contradictive , what you could have easliy done because as you claim there is a lot of that on my side , and as far effort you put in respoding to me that you won't respond to me would have been put into that 1 example.
Sorry , but now you are nothing more than screamer that holds grudge against me as i said , you avoid providing any example of things you have accused me and put random snide responses to my posts ,even if they weren't directed to you.
It's just sad tbh.
In this game, humans claim superiority over elves and yet depend on them so damn much. According to Solas, Elven civilization was waaaay ahead of Human civilization. To them, magic was a lifestyle and elves lived harmoniously with it and incorporated magic in their daily lives. That sounds just as wonderful as Solas describes it.
I imagine that a great deal of the problems with magic in modern thedas comes in the approach and culturally view of magic.
The Fade is a realm of dreams and spirits/demons. But it also reflects reality, and can be shifted based on the will of the person. The same applies to the spirits. They have wills of their own, but their own nature can be altered by someone who wills it, whether by accident or on purpose. Justice can become Vengeance, Love can become Desire, Wisdom can become Pride.
If enough people truly believe something about the fade and its denizens, you are likely dramatically increasing that being true because the Fade will reflect that belief.
But i did understood your post ,except perhaps part about somehow me reading all my posts is being example of my posts being nonsensical and contradictive what made no sense whatsoever.
I asked for 1 example of content in my post that was for example contradictive , what you could have easliy done because as you claim there is a lot of that on my side , and as far effort you put in respoding to me that you won't respond to me would have been put into that 1 example.
Sorry , but now you are nothing more than screamer that holds grudge against me as i said , you avoid providing any example of things you have accused me and put random snide responses to my posts ,even if they weren't directed to you.
Pretty much everything you post contradicts itself.
Hey everyone. Let's try to get back on topic. Thank you.
Right, thanks mod.
Anywho, I imagine that Tevinter and/or Orlais after the Dales found some, but not all, of what an Arcane Warrior is and does, and may have adapted it without a full knowledge of how they did it, thus creating two separate, but similar schools of magic.
Hey everyone. Let's try to get back on topic. Thank you.
Believe us, most of us are definitely trying?
But you're right, mod, we shouldn't continue to argue, we don't actually want this thread closed?
Lets agree that all arguments are hereby resolved and distribute icecream for everyone as a peace offering?
Anywho, I imagine that Tevinter and/or Orlais after the Dales found some, but not all, of what an Arcane Warrior is and does, and may have adapted it without a full knowledge of how they did it, thus creating two separate, but similar schools of magic.
Yeah, this is my take on how the KE and Battlemage specs came into existence as well. Abelas and Solas both mention that Tevinter looted all they could from the Elven Empire, it makes sense they'd appropriate elven magic that they could find useful?
Given the similar phasing element of both the Fade Shroud in Origins and Fade Cloak from DAI, it makes me wonder whether or not Fenris' abilities are in some way related? Perhaps the Tevinters are attempting to replicate those kinds of abilities in someone without magic, through the use of lyrium instead?
Tevinter were using the eluvians as Skype, no wonder they couldn't figure out AW class properly.
It is called cultural appropriation, happens a lot IRL so quite possible in lore too. Thankfully I learn KE with a dalish Inquisitor, other wise Solas would had hate me for it.
Tevinter were using the eluvians as Skype, no wonder they couldn't figure out AW class properly.
Pretty much. Not really a bad thing since it got them to build the Imperial Highway. What interests me is how the Elves got each Eluvian to such remote locations without building roads. For the larger cities I guess they just built their own but the more remote locations must have meant they trekked there cross-country, dragging a giant mirror no less.
Unless they treked across country and then set up a mirror in that location.
Each eluvian has its own unique key, so I'm guessing that each eluvian was built on site.
Though that does beg the question on how they got eluvians in other worlds.
It's just sad tbh.
In this game, humans claim superiority over elves and yet depend on them so damn much. According to Solas, Elven civilization was waaaay ahead of Human civilization. To them, magic was a lifestyle and elves lived harmoniously with it and incorporated magic in their daily lives. That sounds just as wonderful as Solas describes it.
None of which my inquisitor had a thing to do with, so I guess I don't see much point in getting all bent out of shape about it. Nothing I can do to change the past. So if the KE skills help me make the world a better place for everyone by stopping some crazed darkspawn magister from becoming a being of god like power and killing or enslaving .. well, everybody, elves included, then I guess I don't find much point in being too self righteous about their origins to use them.
Pretty much. Not really a bad thing since it got them to build the Imperial Highway. What interests me is how the Elves got each Eluvian to such remote locations without building roads. For the larger cities I guess they just built their own but the more remote locations must have meant they trekked there cross-country, dragging a giant mirror no less.
The ancient elves either had airships or the eluvians were flown to remote locations by griffins (or those winged halla someone graffitied all over Orlais.).
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The ancient elves either had airships or the eluvians were flown to remote locations by griffins (or those winged halla someone graffitied all over Orlais.).
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Ok, is it just me or does any one else now have a mental image of two European griffons carrying an Eluvian with a piece of string.
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