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[Commander Rpg]

The question is if games are crafted to appease men, mainly, or if men are more attracted - in general - to games than women, as if they have a large reception of the game itself. Certainly men and women do play, but is it true or false that males play more and have more fun in playing?

 

Gary Gygax said, once

 

Gaming in general is a male thing. It isn't that gaming is designed to exclude women. Everybody who's tried to design a game to interest a large female audience has failed. And I think that has to do with the different thinking processes of men and women.

[Liamv2]

I don't give a damn if a game is aimed towards men or women. If it's good i'll probably like it.

[Sully13]

Short answer No.

 

Women have been a part of the gameing indusrty from its inception as both creators and players regardless of popular concensus.

simply the public simply viewed gameing as a geeky guy thing and well girls wernt socialy awkward. mostly this was from media potraials.

 

Now regarding the "Girls need girls to play." thing there have been studdies show ing this is not the case. simply put most game players can empithise whith PCs regardless of gender CCs not whithstanding.

 

the sad thing was when i was a socialy awkward female thing back in the day. it was other Girls who Bullied me for likeing Boyish stuff like Transformers my Mum included.

most guys would LOVE s girl who is into Sports or Mortal Kombat.

what most of the modern SJWs fail to realise is the Nerd Culture has a high rate of High functioning autism and Social issues in it. so when many of us meet some one whith a simalar intrest we want to talk about that subject.

 

the thing is being Geeky is cool now and the Bullies from our past want in to our Basements now us socialy awkward Highfunctoning Autistics are bullying our bullies but Talking about our intrests.     

[Inquisitor Recon]

Gary Gyjax was right, unless you count casual stuff like Facebook games or whatever.

[Cyonan]

People are so varied even among the same gender that it's kind of silly to say that you're going to design it for a single gender unless you want to make it about sex, in which case that's the only thing that would work. Even then, it wont interest all of them.

 

Gaming being an accepted thing that the male population does is still relatively new, though. It wasn't too long ago that only the nerdy kids that likely got bullied were the ones who did most of the gaming.

 

As time goes on, I imagine we'll get more women playing games.

[Endurium]

There are plenty of female gamers who stream these days. Three things I notice that sets them apart from most guys is: using gender to get more views (cleavage cam), singing/art (women are more prone to creativity), and typically more interaction with viewers. How they play the game is more difficult to differentiate, although thus far all speedrunners I've found streaming have been male.

 

There are always exceptions, of course.

 

My sisters used to enjoy RPG/RTS/Tetris and were quite good at strategy/tactics.

[Sully13]

If you make a good game it will find its audiance. look at the Girl who Play COD, Gears, WOW or Madden.  

[Cyonan]

If you make a good game it will find its audiance. look at the Girl who Play COD, Gears, WOW or Madden.  

 

There seems to be a decent amount of girls who play WoW actually.

 

Either that or a lot of guys extremely dedicated to sounding like girls over voice chat.

[Inquisitor Recon]

People steaming games aren't even real people, more likely robots or programs designed to appear human to the unobservant.

[mybudgee]

[Sully13]

GO HOME GAMER-CAT.

[Commander Rpg]

There seems to be a decent amount of girls who play WoW actually.

 

Either that or a lot of guys extremely dedicated to sounding like girls over voice chat.

Well, the question was, in addition to numbers, made to understand if males have more fun playing and are more into games (complexity, richness) than females, and if yes, if this is a social or biological matter, or both.

[Sully13]

There seems to be a decent amount of girls who play WoW actually.

 

Either that or a lot of guys extremely dedicated to sounding like girls over voice chat.

that was my piont actualy.

[Liamv2]

Well, the question was, in addition to numbers, made to understand if males have more fun playing and are more into games (complexity, richness) than females, and if yes, if this is a social or biological matter, or both.

 

But there is physically no way to measure fun levels.

[Commander Rpg]

But there is physically no way to measure fun levels.

Some electrodes and the monitoring of brain activity is the thing.

[Fidite Nemini]

Nonsense.

 

Games are a product, thus geared to cater to the largest audience where the most profit is expected to be had. That audience is mostly the 8-40 years old people, out of which a significant number happen to be males (exceptions exist, for example the mobile gaming market).

 

That has nothing to do with gaming being a male thing as much as it's simply a thing that males invested more money in. Might aswell complain that social clubs like book meetings, country clubs etc. are crafted to mostly female standards back in the day. Because that's what people did for recreation at the time. But times and social norms/acceptance are changing and we see the gaming community's female part rising in numbers steadily all around. Whilst the gamer-girl/woman has historically been a rare occasion, it's evidently no longer true and the gaming market and audience targeting will change to follow suit, or if they don't, evolve into niches that cater to a more focused target audience, be that for male gamers, or female gamers, or whatever.

[Sully13]

But there is physically no way to measure fun levels.

You need a DBZ Scouter.. or a Princess Luna doll.

[mousestalker]

Our Thursday night table top RPG group was until very recently mostly women.

 

But that is only anecdotal evidence...

[Commander Rpg]

Our Thursday night table top RPG group was until very recently mostly women.

 

But that is only anecdotal evidence...

I play rpgs since 1998. Summing all the groups I've been in, I can count only two women, respecitvely the girlfriends of a player and master.

[Sully13]

Agreed.

most of tne recent.. Things have mostly people attention whoreing and Conning people who want to perpetuate a Victim mentality. while the rest of us want to Grind another level before our bladders burst.

[Cyonan]

To be honest, I find the whole ANYTHING being specifically said to be geared towards a specific gender/sex; exclusive, backward, narrow-minded and sexist, male or female (unless it is something very definite to a persons physical biology). A man can perfectly enjoy activities and genres that are apparently geared towards "women" just like women can enjoy and maybe even prefer something that was apparently created with "men" in mind. It's about the persons interest, not their sex or gender.

I have been gaming since I was 4yrs old, and I have a fairly eclectic taste in gaming, from shooters to RPG's. How about we just create games and not bring gender into it?

However, I will say that certainly gaming companies and such seem to keep this idea that gaming is a primarily "male" pastime, an idea that I think they really, really need to let go of. It's quite frankly ridiculous. A survey was even done recently and the "female" demographic for gaming, for the first time in history, was higher than male (albeit by only 2% but still).

All in all, gender and gaming really have nothing to do with each other when you look at it from a logical point of view. If it does, then it comes out of boxed ideas and gender stereotypes.

 

Usually when people say "geared towards men" what they really mean is "we put some sexy women in there and dressed them in revealing clothing".

 

Also, that stat tends to include Facebook games which are a very different demographic from the games we're talking about here.

 

I think it would depend on the genre to be honest. As I said before, quite a few women actually play World of Warcraft. However, I wouldn't be surprised if games like Madden or Fifa was primarily male.

 

It's not that women can't like sports, but generally more men than women take an interest in them.

[mousestalker]

Usually when people say "geared towards men" what they really mean is "we put some sexy women in there and dressed them in revealing clothing".
 
Also, that stat tends to include Facebook games which are a very different demographic from the games we're talking about here.
 
I think it would depend on the genre to be honest. As I said before, quite a few women actually play World of Warcraft. However, I wouldn't be surprised if games like Madden or Fifa was primarily male.
 
It's not that women can't like sports, but generally more men than women take an interest in them.

Sure and an amazing number of women play Candy Crush.

Now we get to count the posts before someone insists that isn't really a real game.

[Dobbysaurus]

Candy Crush is not a real game.

[mousestalker]

Candy Crush is not a real game.

You are an instigator. And you are instigating.