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[Lady Artifice]

I actually think it makes perfect sense. She's one of the few DA2 companions who can't be killed, and as fun as it might be to imagine Hawke and a romanced Isabela sailing into the sunset, that head canon is debunked in the SP game. Hawke has work to do, and so does she. Would it really be preferable to imagine them off on their merry way during the end of the world, when instead they could be helping it..not end? 

 

They've done it for Isabela, for whatever reason that might be. Story wise, I have absolutely no idea why she would join. She only joined up with Hawke to benefit herself. Stayed for Hawke and Co. but regardless, she is selfish when it comes to things like this. I can see no reason why she would become an Inquisition agent. Hopefully, BioWare clear that up but if not, then I see no reason why they can't bring in dead characters.

 

The others said money, but I would add that Isabela did potentially develop as a character during the first part of DA2, at least enough to recognize that she might have a better chance of survival if the world isn't taken over by a Darkspawn "God." I think even the most selfish might assist out of a sense of self preservation. 

[Lady Artifice]

Is MP supposed to be lore consistent? Like that FTP mobile game (DA Heroes?) I always saw MP as some kind of AU.

 

I think they're trying to integrate it into the main lore pretty thoroughly, by having the MP characters walk around Skyhold in the SP game and such.

 

I really do prefer the idea that it's all the same universe.

[Mihura]

I think they're trying to integrate it into the main lore pretty thoroughly, by having the MP characters walk around Skyhold in the SP game and such.

 

I really do prefer the idea that it's all the same universe.

 

I really hope not, I mean it appears you can have a party full of Isabelas that flirt with which other, kinda look like the twilight zone for me.

[Dieb]

One of the more elaborate "screw you MP-enthusiast" threads.

 

Stay classy, folks.

[phaonica]

Clearly there is nothing that can be done without outraging someone...

[o Ventus]

The only reason why I'm so AGAINST her being a MP character is because of all the decisions we made in DA2's SP. You romanced her? Betrayed her? Etc? Won't matter anymore. The MP is lore breaking and headcanon breaking.

No, it isn't.

[jlb524]

I actually think it makes perfect sense. She's one of the few DA2 companions who can't be killed, and as fun as it might be to imagine Hawke and a romanced Isabela sailing into the sunset, that head canon is debunked in the SP game. Hawke has work to do, and so does she. Would it really be preferable to imagine them off on their merry way during the end of the world, when instead they could be helping it..not end? 

 

Sure but it makes no sense for Hawke to leave for Weisshaupt instead of staying to help out the Inquisition.  If this was the case, people could keep their Hawke/Isabela headcanon going as they'd both be Inquisition agents and would at least occasionally see each other in between missions

[Lady Artifice]

I really hope not, I mean it appears you can have a party full of Isabelas that flirt with which other, kinda look like the twilight zone for me.

 

The multiple versions of MP characters turning up in a multiplayer game is going to be a problem whether it's the main lore universe or an alternate...There's not a lot that they could do about that either way. 

[Lady Artifice]

Sure but it makes no sense for Hawke to leave for Weisshaupt instead of staying to help out the Inquisition.  If this was the case, people could keep their Hawke/Isabela headcanon going as they'd both be Inquisition agents and would at least occasionally see each other in between missions

 

Agreed. I like that idea much more than the plot they went with. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Who the hell cares?

This.

[SmilesJA]

I love the DA2 companions so I'm very happy that Isabela is included. But is the Multiplayer canon like in Mass Effect 3?

[AresKeith]

I love the DA2 companions so I'm very happy that Isabela is included. But is the Multiplayer canon like in Mass Effect 3?

 

It's somewhat like it yes, ME3 MP was canon by concept of races across fighting against the Reapers while the gameplay obviously was different

 

Same rule for the DA MP, Inquisition Agents doing missions

[AlanC9]

Trim through the posts, I explained exactly why I hate her inclusion in the MP.

You weren't actually very exact. How is putting her in MP worse for headcanon and lore than putting her in SP? (I mean headcanon in general, of course -- if you just mean your personal headcanon, it's obvious that an individual's headcanon has the potential to be broken by any reappearance whatsoever.) What's particularly bad about MP?

[AlanC9]

I really hope not, I mean it appears you can have a party full of Isabelas that flirt with which other, kinda look like the twilight zone for me.

She'd be into that, wouldn't she?

(Suddenly I'm thinking of Broad City.)

[AresKeith]

I really hope not, I mean it appears you can have a party full of Isabelas that flirt with which other, kinda look like the twilight zone for me.

 

The gameplay of the MP isn't canon

[KaiserShep]

I really hope not, I mean it appears you can have a party full of Isabelas that flirt with which other, kinda look like the twilight zone for me.

Lol I totally forgot about that. At least in ME3, the aliens all look the same anyway, and the humans all have helmets.

[Mihura]

The gameplay of the MP isn't canon

 

Humm than what it is? only the missions? the agents? I am kinda confuse now. Need to check it.

[renfrees]

(If Hawke romanced Isabela)

 

Cassandra: What about Isabela? Will she...

Varric: Join her/him? Once she gets my letter she'll go whether Hawke likes it or not.

 

 

Yeah... no. She's too busy running circles in DAMP maps. 

[AresKeith]

Lol I totally forgot about that. At least in ME3, the aliens all look the same anyway, and the humans all have helmets.

 

That's one way to do it lol, another way would be to automatically set an enemy force on certain maps that make sense

 

Humm than what it is? only the missions? the agents? I am kinda confuse now. Need to check it.

 

The agents and technically the missions I guess

[Dieb]

I think it's canon that, say, Korbin, Argent, Thornton and Rion go out and get the Inquisition Officer to safety from somewhere, or to loot those Ancient Scrolls in time.

 

The rest is gameplay. I think they were just too lazy to design more bosses with unique fighting styles, which is why you're fighting Not-Calpernia, Not-Samson and I suppose whatever a Demon Commander is (Envy).

 

And yeah, I like the fact that they're characters more than Sergeant Helmet II. of MEMP.

[Lady Artifice]

I think it's canon that, say, Korbin, Argent, Thornton and Rion go out and get the Inquisition Officer to safety from somewhere, or to loot those Ancient Scrolls in time.

 

The rest is gameplay. I think they were just too lazy to design more bosses with unique fighting styles, which is why you're fighting Not-Calpernia, Not-Samson and I suppose whatever a Demon Commander is (Envy).

 

And yeah, I like the fact that they're characters more than Sergeant Helmet II. of MEMP.

 

I really love the MP team. I only wish they had more dialogue with one another. But that's because I love the dialogue that they do have. 

[AresKeith]

I think it's canon that, say, Korbin, Argent, Thornton and Rion go out and get the Inquisition Officer to safety from somewhere, or to loot those Ancient Scrolls in time.

 

The rest is gameplay. I think they were just too lazy to design more bosses with unique fighting styles, which is why you're fighting Not-Calpernia, Not-Samson and I suppose whatever a Demon Commander is (Envy).

 

And yeah, I like the fact that they're characters more than Sergeant Helmet II. of MEMP.

 

Yeah would've been nice if they actually made unique bosses instead of copying Calpernia and Samson

 

I also hope future MPs actually do legit co-op missions instead of Horde mode or Dungeon crawler 

[themageguy]

In happy with this. It will give Bioware the opportunity to introduce new skills and spells not available in the SP, like in Mass effect 3 Mp ( how i wish my Shepard could lob those arc grenades !!!!).

Also, for those who want to see blood magic, nature/keeper magics, having Merrill would give us access to those abilities.

So yeah, im up for older characters being in the MP

[Teddie Sage]

No, it isn't.

I say bullsh*t. It's ruining headcanons of some people whether you agree or not. And next time you try to say something, be more elaborate please. How is this not "lore breaking" or breaking any headcanons we had with the single player mode? Mm? Do tell.

[Teddie Sage]

You weren't actually very exact. How is putting her in MP worse for headcanon and lore than putting her in SP? (I mean headcanon in general, of course -- if you just mean your personal headcanon, it's obvious that an individual's headcanon has the potential to be broken by any reappearance whatsoever.) What's particularly bad about MP?

I already mentioned what I think about the MP many times in this thread. I don't need to repeat myself.