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[Dio Demon]

You got me wrong there, I don't "hate" it, I don't like that it's part of this game as most of the SP was built with the same gameplay and both SP and MP influenced one another. What I said a few times is that I hate that SP characters are being put in the MP because they were SP characters to begin with. I also mentioned that I'd rather have a MP style Dragon Age as a separate game so the Dragon Age team could focus on a whole different battle system that wouldn't feel like it's ripped off from the MP. I like that the tactical menu is there in SP, it saves me a lot of trouble sometimes, but I do miss the old combat system from DAO sometimes or DA2. DAI isn't that bad, it just feels like it was built around MMO in mind, which is a bit alienating. 

In other words, I just wish MP stopped influencing SP in BioWare games.

Did you know Inquisition was based off multiplayer? Well... time to chuck Inquisition out the window.

[BronzTrooper]

Exactly... This sorta breaks the point of romancing her if the MP isn't going to acknowledge our choices. Any of the choices you make won't have any impact on the lines she'll have in the MP and this seriously bothers me a lot. This character doesn't belong there. The MP should be for original characters, just my opinion.

 

Not just the romance. All the choices concerning Isabela. Wether she was taken by the Qunari or not, whether she was friends with Hawke, whether she was her rival, whether she had her ship or she didn't. All those little choices you made in the second game affected how she interacted with the player.

It's like they weren't thinking clearly when they selected her as a character, about the consequences it would have with people who actually cared about their choices with the said pirate.

 

It's more that it's simply not practical because you have 1-3 other people in a match with you at a time who all likely have entirely different world-states.  Plus, there's banter, so if they included banter referencing every single decision in the story, as well as the other MP characters' reactionary dialogue, that'd cost an incredible amount of resources for a single character.

 

Just because she's in the MP doesn't mean that she'd purely stuck there.  Besides, the characters in DA MP are referenced a few times in the single player (specifically in operations), so it's not like the 2 are entirely separate.

[Teddie Sage]

@Gamer: I would be completely fine with Izzy being in the game if downloading the MP DLC thing also allowed us to unlock some codex entries and giving us an opportunity to having a chat with her at the Skyhold.

[Dio Demon]

@Gamer: I would be completely fine with Izzy being in the game if downloading the MP DLC thing also allowed us to unlock some codex entries and giving us an opportunity to having a chat with her at the Skyhold.

You're not upset that she's in DAMP. You're just salty that you're not getting her in SP.

 

I honestly don't care one way or the other as long as it fits with my Inquisitor's character.

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

No need to be rude, Despair.

[Teddie Sage]

No need to be rude, Despair.

Don't mind him. Personally, I put him on my ignore list ages ago. I don't think he realized yet.

[BronzTrooper]

You got me wrong there, I don't "hate" it, I don't like that it's part of this game as most of the SP was built with the same gameplay and both SP and MP influenced one another. What I said a few times is that I hate that SP characters are being put in the MP because they were SP characters to begin with. I also mentioned that I'd rather have a MP style Dragon Age as a separate game so the Dragon Age team could focus on a whole different battle system that wouldn't feel like it's ripped off from the MP. I like that the tactical menu is there in SP, it saves me a lot of trouble sometimes, but I do miss the old combat system from DAO sometimes or DA2. DAI isn't that bad, it just feels like it was built around MMO in mind, which is a bit alienating. 

In other words, I just wish MP stopped influencing SP in BioWare games.

 

The only thing that the single player and the MP influenced each other on was the combat, and honestly, I prefer the combat in DA:I over DA:O and DA2 (and I'm one of the people who preferred the combat in ME1 over ME2 and ME3).

 

Plus, DA:I was made as a single player game first with the MP added on as a bonus.  I'd understand if you had to pay for the DLC, but it's free, so I don't see how it's an issue.

 

Also, about the whole 'ruining headcanon' thing: just because BW does something in ME or DA that breaks your headcanon does not mean it's reasonable for you to get upset about it.  BW's writing their own stories in their worlds; you're just going along for the ride.  Getting upset because what you imagined happened to certain characters didn't actually happen is just ridiculous.  Yes, I headcanon too, but within reason and I make sure my headcanons are flexible so that if something happens in a book or game that doesn't go along with it, I can alter it to fit better.  Seriously, the fact that so many people get upset when their imagined situations for the characters in DA are proven wrong is incredibly sad.  They're BW's universes; not yours.

 

EDIT: To be clear, I'm not trying to be a douche, it's just that stuff like this is annoying to me.

[Rainbow Wyvern]

Wow this thread does have some salt in it....

 

Anyway, I'm fairly sure BioWare knows what they're doing. They're not going to purposefully stomp on everyone's headcanon for no reason (not like it matters if they do, this is their universe). Nothing about DA2/DAO will be referenced by her I'd assume, and her being in MP will probably mean she will be in the SP, since MP characters hang around Skyhold.

 

You could just ignore it, as well. It's just MP, not a big deal. 

[Teddie Sage]

EDIT: To be clear, I'm not trying to be a douche, it's just that stuff like this is annoying to me.

Don't worry, I understand you perfectly.

[o Ventus]

Or you could always just not give a **** about trivial matters

But how else would I get attention?

[Dio Demon]

No need to be rude, Despair.

I'm being honest. I don't hold people's hand and tell them that it's alright. I will call it as a I see it.

 

Sadly people have grown up expecting people to coddle them, I do not. 

[BronzTrooper]

Don't worry, I understand you perfectly.

 

Really?  Because I still remember you misunderstanding Sophus on FB a while back.  

[Teddie Sage]

Really?  Because I still remember you misunderstanding Sophus on FB a while back.  

Misunderstanding happen, funny how you can't see that I'm not perfect. 

[o Ventus]

Misunderstanding happen, funny how you can't see that I'm not perfect. 

 

 

Don't worry, I understand you perfectly.

[BronzTrooper]

Misunderstanding happen, funny how you can't see that I'm not perfect. 

 

Just meant that it usually doesn't take much to set you off.....

[Teddie Sage]

Just meant that it usually doesn't take much to set you off.....

Truth hurts.

Though you know I didn't mean bad stuff to happen. Just don't bring back that story again, please. I'm really ashamed of myself as it is these days. Don't need to remind me of my failures when I apologized way too many times already.

[WardenWade]

Considering how DA2 companions have gotten the short end of the stick in DAI (Varric excluded obviously), I wouldn't be surprised if they all now became available as MP characters.

 

Hm, maybe that means we might finally see Zevran reappear as a MP char as well?

I hope so.  I'd love to see Zevran!

[BronzTrooper]

Truth hurts.

hough you know I didn't mean bad stuff to happen. Just don't bring back that story again, please. I'm really ashamed of myself as it is these days. Don't need to remind me of my failures when I apologized way too many times already.

 

Isabela: "Eh. Our mistakes make us who we are."

[Dio Demon]

Don't mind him. Personally, I put him on my ignore list ages ago. I don't think he realized yet.

It's because I'm apparently a homophobic cisgendered misogynistic male oppressor.

 

BOW BEFORE THE FLUFFIATRIARCHY! I SHALL OPPRESS EVERYONE THAT HAS NON-FLUFFY HAIR IN THIS THREAD IN THIS THREAD WITH MY STICK OF OPPRESSION!

 

He was close... I am an oppressor I just judge you on the fluffiness of your hair. 

[Teddie Sage]

Isabela: "Eh. Our mistakes make us who we are."

... Goddammit, Izzy.   

[Dio Demon]

Truth hurts.

Though you know I didn't mean bad stuff to happen. Just don't bring back that story again, please. I'm really ashamed of myself as it is these days. Don't need to remind me of my failures when I apologized way too many times already.

Live with every one of your mistakes. Do not regret, do not forget.  Your mistakes make you who you are, learning from them allows you to grow. Repeating them however shows true and utter weakness in your capability to understand. 

 

 

 

And this is directed at no one in particular. Honestly... Oh great I just got reported didn't I?

[katerinafm]

I hope so.  I'd love to see Zevran!

 

Me too! Of course I'd prefer him in SP role because I'll always be annoyed that he's the only DAO LI with no role in DAI, but it'd be better than nothing.

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

Me too! Of course I'd prefer him in SP role because I'll always be annoyed that he's the only DAO LI with no role in DAI, but it'd be better than nothing.

 

Unless there could be a good replacement for him (like Loghain or Stroud would be for Alistair), or his role would be extremely minor (like his war table mission), it wouldn't really work since we can kill him. Really kill him.

 

Like I always do.

[katerinafm]

Unless there could be a good replacement for him (like Loghain or Stroud would be for Alistair), or his role would be extremely minor (like his war table mission), it wouldn't really work since we can kill him. Really kill him.

 

Like I always do.

 

ok did i ask u to speak

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

ok did i ask u to speak