I'm not sure if this topic was made already (probably was, but I couldn't find it), but the biggest complaint I have about DA:I is the lack of Sandal and Bodhan. They said at the end of DA2 that they were going up to Orlais. So... where are they? Why can't we bring them into Skyhold? Where is our "Enchantment"?
You can't just plop something like the prophecy Sandal can randomly say in DA2 and NOT put him in Inquisition. Can we please have him in a DLC at the very least?
You are wearing them on your feet.
So bioware took out the brothel, the desire demon and to rub extra salt in the wound, they also removed sandal? They made all the women look like men with shaved heads, they made vivienne bald, they made cassandra look like a man, josephine ugly.....
Holy ****. WTF HAPPENED?!
So bioware took out the brothel, the desire demon and to rub extra salt in the wound, they also removed sandal? They made all the women look like men with shaved heads, they made vivienne bald, they made cassandra look like a man, josephine ugly.....
Holy ****. WTF HAPPENED?!
They did it to make you angry
So bioware took out the brothel, the desire demon and to rub extra salt in the wound, they also removed sandal? They made all the women look like men with shaved heads, they made vivienne bald, they made cassandra look like a man, josephine ugly.....
Holy ****. WTF HAPPENED?!
Why does everyone keep saying Josephine is ugly? Her CLOTHES are ugly, she is not and last I checked my standards aren't particularly low.
So bioware took out the brothel, the desire demon and to rub extra salt in the wound, they also removed sandal? They made all the women look like men with shaved heads, they made vivienne bald, they made cassandra look like a man, josephine ugly.....
Holy ****. WTF HAPPENED?!
Well, at least it's enchanted salt in the wounds.
Sandal killed Dagna before she showed up and disguised himself as her. His been in Skyhold all along.
Dagna refers to Sandal as a matter of fact, if you pay attention to the conversation you have with her. Not by name, but she mentions she is the second best enchanter in the world, but doesn't have a wonky enough head to be first.
I had thought that maybe that lone dog shop surrounded by dead red templars in the canyon in the Hissing Wastes might be a sign of Sandal being around, but it was never verified...
As for the complaints, yes, I too have a strong complaint about how PG13 supposedly the game is. No brothel, no sex scenes, no prostitutes, no desire demons, no multi-LI jealousy party banter, no mature content whatsoever beyond the extreme hack and slash and blood and gore, which, naturally is something that's far better for young teenagers to see than say, *gasp, the horror* a scene with two naked people... gods forbid we "offend" some grandmother somewhere who's forgotten how it looks like....
Dagna refers to Sandal as a matter of fact, if you pay attention to the conversation you have with her. Not by name, but she mentions she is the second best enchanter in the world, but doesn't have a wonky enough head to be first.
I had thought that maybe that lone dog shop surrounded by dead red templars in the canyon in the Hissing Wastes might be a sign of Sandal being around, but it was never verified...
As for the complaints, yes, I too have a strong complaint about how PG13 supposedly the game is. No brothel, no sex scenes, no prostitutes, no desire demons, no multi-LI jealousy party banter, no mature content whatsoever beyond the extreme hack and slash and blood and gore, which, naturally is something that's far better for young teenagers to see than say, *gasp, the horror* a scene with two naked people... gods forbid we "offend" some grandmother somewhere who's forgotten how it looks like....
Not true at all, the other complaints are symptom of the much bigger problem of DA:I not really having any towns or cities to explore.
What the **** does this even to do with OP's problem anyways? Why did this get brought up? This forum is really something else.
Maybe you should read other people's posts sometimes. My first paragraph answers the OP, the rest answer the third poster. I wonder what your post answers...
Why does everyone keep saying Josephine is ugly? Her CLOTHES are ugly, she is not and last I checked my standards aren't particularly low.
This guy has multiple accounts where he says Josie and Cass are ugly
I get the strong impression we haven't seen the last of Sandal, I'd be very surprised if he didn't show up in future DLC.
Dagna refers to Sandal as a matter of fact, if you pay attention to the conversation you have with her. Not by name, but she mentions she is the second best enchanter in the world, but doesn't have a wonky enough head to be first.
I had thought that maybe that lone dog shop surrounded by dead red templars in the canyon in the Hissing Wastes might be a sign of Sandal being around, but it was never verified...
As for the complaints, yes, I too have a strong complaint about how PG13 supposedly the game is. No brothel, no sex scenes, no prostitutes, no desire demons, no multi-LI jealousy party banter, no mature content whatsoever beyond the extreme hack and slash and blood and gore, which, naturally is something that's far better for young teenagers to see than say, *gasp, the horror* a scene with two naked people... gods forbid we "offend" some grandmother somewhere who's forgotten how it looks like....
I don't believe the idea is exactly to make it pg13, but they may have been trying to not focus on sexualizing the female character models. To be honest I think it was a good direction given the dire circumstances. Warriors and fighters are going to be more lean. Seems more realistic. I did notice and love the fact that I am also not running around with blood splatters on my gear for five minutes after every battle much like in DA2.
As for the Sandal thing, I had feared he might not be in it, but assumed maybe I haven't gotten that far in the game. It is a sad thing not to see him somewhere.
I don't believe the idea is exactly to make it pg13, but they may have been trying to not focus on sexualizing the female character models. To be honest I think it was a good direction given the dire circumstances.
It kinda makes me raise an eyebrow when someone comes to these forums and the first post they ever make practically says "desire demons are too sexy and offensive". I gotta agree with Terodil here and call this.
Moreover, what are the dire circumstances that would have prevented a desire demon from looking like they did? More dire than the demonic possession of the Ferelden Circle? The same scenario precisely happens now with the Templars, and the Wardens.
Also, you might want to check your options, you'll find that the blood spatter can be switched on and off. As it could be on DAO and DA2 as well.
As for the complaints, yes, I too have a strong complaint about how PG13 supposedly the game is. No brothel, no sex scenes, no prostitutes, no desire demons, no multi-LI jealousy party banter, no mature content whatsoever beyond the extreme hack and slash and blood and gore, which, naturally is something that's far better for young teenagers to see than say, *gasp, the horror* a scene with two naked people... gods forbid we "offend" some grandmother somewhere who's forgotten how it looks like....
Brothels, sex scenes and prostitutes don't make a mature game, how you deal with mature themes makes a mature game.
There may not have been any full sex scenes in DA:I, but you do get to see nude characters, pre & post sex and just after Sera has finished giving the Inquisitor oral sex.
Just seeing naked people, is not as mature as being able to have a conversation with your LI after sex, where you are both clearly naked or taking a break from sex for a minute and talking to your partner.
I haven't done all the romances yet, but personally I felt that the sex scenes I have seen were well done, particularly when compared with the previous Dragon Age sex scenes because they showed what people actually do pre, post and sometimes during sex; they talk in the nude, the giggle, the pause after oral sex etc.
In fact DA:I is the first game I've ever played with implied oral sex, Sera's sex scene literally starts just as she is finished going down on the Inquisitor.
I don't agree with the conventional gaming wisdom, that says in order for a game to be considered mature it must have sex & nudity. It can of course, but those elements can be dealt with in an immature way, like the sex scenes in DA:O or in a mature way, like the sex scenes in ME1, ME3 and DA:I.
To me, a game is mature for the same reasons a book, T.V. Show or Film is mature, not because it has nudity, sex and violence but (to name a few things) because it is asking me questions that don't have easy answers, allows for multiple interpretations of events or challenging preconceived notions.
Including a trans character, attempting to challenge a players preconceived notions of the Qun,the Mages and the Templars and giving a player decisions that have no right or wrong answer are just some things that DA:I does that I believes makes it a mature game.
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We agree to disagree. I don't think the romance treatment in DAO was infantile as you suggest, so, we agree to have our difference of opinion there. If by mature treatment you mean showing oral sex, yeah, ok, I can understand your logic.
As for the complaints, yes, I too have a strong complaint about how PG13 supposedly the game is. No brothel, no sex scenes, no prostitutes, no desire demons, no multi-LI jealousy party banter, no mature content whatsoever beyond the extreme hack and slash and blood and gore, which, naturally is something that's far better for young teenagers to see than say, *gasp, the horror* a scene with two naked people... gods forbid we "offend" some grandmother somewhere who's forgotten how it looks like....
It's ironic that this game is the most sexually explicit in the series so far. Sure, you had brothels, but beyond picking one and losing money there was no scene beyond the PC standing around alone in his/her small clothes in a room, or in Hawke's case, buckling up...alone in the room. I guess there's the dry-humping underwear sex that went on in the first one, but that doesn't come close to Sera's cunning linquisitics course.
I think David once remarked that he wasn't really happy with Sandal's characterization, so it wasn't all that surprising to not see him in Inquisition.
He may show up again at some point in the future, though. Certainly, they can't have a deific reunion without June.
David Gaider had one hit, Dragon Age Origins.
If I'm allowed to say this, I think David Gaider needs to be fired. Just my personal opinion.
Then he can move on to his true calling in life which is writing gay romance novels, hating on straight male gamers and worshipping ugly women.
David Gaider had one hit, Dragon Age Origins.
If I'm allowed to say this, I think David Gaider needs to be fired. Just my personal opinion.
Then he can move on to his true calling in life which is writing gay romance novels, hating on straight male gamers and worshipping ugly women.
Well, lucky for you Weekes is leading writing now, and Gaider has moved on to another project.
That said, that's a little harsh, I don't think he should be fired but I think he may have been losing interest in the project. Perhaps he even burnt out on it.
So bioware took out the brothel, the desire demon and to rub extra salt in the wound, they also removed sandal? They made all the women look like men with shaved heads, they made vivienne bald, they made cassandra look like a man, josephine ugly.....
Holy ****. WTF HAPPENED?!
Political correctness happened. Bioware lost their edge happened.
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