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#51
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If the game ever looked that good it would look that good on PC, but it does not.

You mean like "The Witcher 3".... oh wait.

 

As far as I know, assets are usually created at a much higher quality than what will be put into the game. You have to downgrade those models, textures etc. for PCs too. And there were a lot of obvious downgrades in DA:I (animations, gameplay features).



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You guys sure look forward to being disappointed.


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You guys sure look forward to being disappointed.


I won't be disappointed.

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I dunno man.   With Battlefront III coming this Christmas (or rather November), I'm thinking that this might put a damper on projects.  Plus, I'm thinking that BioWare has one or two tricks up its sleeves.  I'm thinking that it could release the new IP and the other new IP (formerly Shadow Realms).
So, it could not even be talked about at all.
Good god, I hope not.  Just warning ya.


Shadow Realms was just recently canceled and the new IP will have to be hyped without distractions to get people interested. It won't make a big showing until after ME4 launches. This is the time for ME4 and there's no reason why it wouldn't be.

You mean like "The Witcher 3".... oh wait.
 
As far as I know, assets are usually created at a much higher quality than what will be put into the game. You have to downgrade those models, textures etc. for PCs too. And there were a lot of obvious downgrades in DA:I (animations, gameplay features).


There's no reason to downgrade assets for PC because they're scaled up or down to suit different setups in modern engines. The Frostbite 3 engine is specifically designed around efficient scaling. If the in-game assets ever looked as good as that cinematic they would be in the game on PC because otherwise they just threw away tons of work and wasted a lot of money.
It was a bait and switch. If the trailer was made using in-game assets they would have said it was an in-game trailer. They didn't, they called it an in-engine trailer. All that means is that it was made using the same engine the game is being made with.

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I won't be disappointed.

Are your expectations that low?


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Are your expectations that low?


For the E3 showing? Totally.

For the game? They're somewhat middling, I admit, but I love ME3, so they aren't low, per se. My concerns are with the fact that ME4 will be, in my estimation, something of an anti-ME3.

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For the E3 showing? Totally.

For the game? They're somewhat middling, I admit, but I love ME3, so they aren't low, per se. My concerns are with the fact that ME4 will be, in my estimation, something of an anti-ME3.


And how will you define an anti-ME3 game from the perspective of ME4?

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There is nothing wrong with being disappointed. It happens and you deal with it. 

I'm looking foward to this E3, I'm expecting something at least like 2013 E3 Dragon Age Inquisition trailer.


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And how will you define an anti-ME3 game from the perspective of ME4?

Significantly less narrative focus. Of course, it'll still be decent, but it won't be where the most resources are poured.

A less defined protagonist. Of course, this also means far less autodialogue than in 3, which even I will admit is good.

Emotional resonance will be weaker. Of course, this also means less contrived forced melodrama. (The overwhelming majority of which worked well on me, but less so on some other players.)

Fewer hours dedicated to the critical path, but a significantly greater degree of secondary content. I do not suspect, however, that said secondary content will be of high quality. In this regard it is not an anti-ME3, except in the sense that missions such as the turian bomb arc and Grissom Academy are purely optional. And pretty decent. To most of us we look at them as mandatory because it's more story, but yeah. Totally optional. ME4, I think, will face similar problems as most more open titles of needing to "fill" all the worlds and doing so without cinematic designers involved, meaning I think most of ME4's side content will not feature an up-close camera.

Combat will be a further refinement and other gameplay aspects will all be solid and usual. I don't spend much time thinking about such things however.

All speculation, obviously.
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If they confirm the leak, the nerdrage will be glorious. Would be quite fun to watch. Can't wait for the whiny "I'm never giving Bioware any of my money ever again" threads :/.

I just hope that whatever they decide to go with, they make it GOOD.

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I don't personally enjoy negative posting, no matter the subject. If it gets especially ugly for a while, I'll pop out for a few months. :)
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What was so nerdrage inducing about the leak? Do you mean that part where we leave the Milky Way? Other than that everything else felt okay to me.

 

Besides I think Bioware kind of backed themselves into a corner with the ME3 endings continuing in the Milky Way would have been worse with complaint of Bioware not respecting choices and all.

 

I think its the easiest way for them to avoid that. Frankly if the overall storyline is good I am okay with leaving the milky way. People here are way to negative sadly :(  



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I'm keeping my expectations low but I really hope we see at least a cinematic trailer.



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If they confirm the leak, the nerdrage will be glorious. Would be quite fun to watch. Can't wait for the whiny "I'm never giving Bioware any of my money ever again" threads :/.

I just hope that whatever they decide to go with, they make it GOOD.

 

For the last few years no matter what BioWare does there is the dreaded "rage". There was a lot towards Mass Effect 3's ending, but honestly it has been fairly consistent since Dragon Age: Origins when they used the term "spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate".



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I think the leak might have taken away a big part of the nerdrage, a confirmation during E3 will not cause that much of it anymore.

Just look at BSN for the last week or so. Everything that had to be said is said, fans and haters of the leak came, argued and left in silence. Well, most of them.



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Significantly less narrative focus. Of course, it'll still be decent, but it won't be where the most resources are poured.

A less defined protagonist. Of course, this also means far less autodialogue than in 3, which even I will admit is good.

Emotional resonance will be weaker. Of course, this also means less contrived forced melodrama. (The overwhelming majority of which worked well on me, but less so on some other players.)

Fewer hours dedicated to the critical path, but a significantly greater degree of secondary content. I do not suspect, however, that said secondary content will be of high quality. In this regard it is not an anti-ME3, except in the sense that missions such as the turian bomb arc and Grissom Academy are purely optional. And pretty decent. To most of us we look at them as mandatory because it's more story, but yeah. Totally optional. ME4, I think, will face similar problems as most more open titles of needing to "fill" all the worlds and doing so without cinematic designers involved, meaning I think most of ME4's side content will not feature an up-close camera.

Combat will be a further refinement and other gameplay aspects will all be solid and usual. I don't spend much time thinking about such things however.

All speculation, obviously.

That sounds like about what I'm expecting. I'm still hoping for a strong main narrative, but generally I try to keep my expectations low or not have them at all.

I think a lot of the "rage" from fanbases comes from them building up unrealistic fantasies of what games will be like and constantly comparing that to the real thing when they get it instead of trying to enjoy what they have.
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I think the leak might have taken away a big part of the nerdrage, a confirmation during E3 will not cause that much of it anymore.
Just look at BSN for the last week or so. Everything that had to be said is said, fans and haters of the leak came, argued and left in silence. Well, most of them.

And some people that weren't happy about it at first have come around to the idea, so it's clearly an effective strategy.

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I'm 99.99% sure that Bioware will show Mass Effect Next at E3. What else do they have? Their new IP was cancelled, I don't think they will just show DLC for Inquisition, it is pretty logical that they will show Mass Effect Next.


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I won't be hyped until they showed me who I'm gonna bang. Don't care in which galaxy we do it. 


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If they confirm the leak, the nerdrage will be glorious. Would be quite fun to watch. Can't wait for the whiny "I'm never giving Bioware any of my money ever again" threads :/.

I just hope that whatever they decide to go with, they make it GOOD.

 

I thought that the leaks are generally well liked?



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I'm 99.99% sure that Bioware will show Mass Effect Next at E3. What else do they have? Their new IP was cancelled, I don't think they will just show DLC for Inquisition, it is pretty logical that they will show Mass Effect Next.

 

The BioWare Edmonton new IP was not cancelled, Shadow Realms (which was being developed by BioWare Austin) was.



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I thought that the leaks are generally well liked?

They're outside of this site seems like a straight split around here. I like it personally not 100% sold on the Open world because I like my open world GTA like not so much Skyrim.

I liked the ME 1 stuff but there wasn't enough Citidel type hubs and you can only go to Noveria once.

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I thought that the leaks are generally well liked?

 

Remember this is BSN you are talking about, yes?  ;)

 

Anything and everything can and will be blown out of proportion at any time. It's like the Reaper's cycle  :P


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I'm 99.99% sure that Bioware will show Mass Effect Next at E3. What else do they have? Their new IP was cancelled, I don't think they will just show DLC for Inquisition, it is pretty logical that they will show Mass Effect Next.

 

They only cancelled the Austin teams new IP, but they still have the new IP in Edmonton.



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Didn't ME3 teach us anything about the dangers of hype trains?


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