Then don't pigeonhole the TGI into an AR build or AIU into a shotgun build... Honestly you can run almost anything on any kit and if you have enough skill it can work.
I was mostly making a point towards the person bashing TGIs and AIUs using snipers.
Of course you can make almost everything work on every kit, the TGI could probably win the Reaper War by himself with a chocalate chip cookie as a weapon, it's just not the most optimal.
Shadow with a sniper rifle is both much safer and much more efficient than the Shadow Strike build. It's not even a comparison. You can kill 3 mooks with a Valiant, before someone lands 1 SS.
Blame Biower for making SS slow and enemies psychic.
Not only this, but you also have to completely spec for melee with omniblade shotty and even slapping on strength enhancers for good measure.
Even with everything going your way you have maybe a 50/50 chance of actually one shotting a phantom with SS... even then it is still the more fun build imo
Shadow with max SS and melee all the way.
More than half the infiltrators can do the (sniper bonus) cloak > snipe cycle but only one can pull off the cloak > stab from behind move. The choice for me is clear.
Even with everything going your way you have maybe a 50/50 chance of actually one shotting a phantom with SS...
Huh? There is nothing left to chance. Phantoms die with SS, every time.
Huh? There is nothing left to chance. Phantoms die with SS, every time.
more of referencing the bubble of invulnerability.
Not only this, but you also have to completely spec for melee with omniblade shotty and even slapping on strength enhancers for good measure.
And you still can't SS Atlases. SS'ing Ravagers is often a death sentence, can't really SS Banshees, because they scream and stagger you, enemies turn around and smack you in the face way before you even arrive and cloaking out of sight thing is total BS, because it doesn't really work 100% of the time.
I use SS only for relocation and to refill my shields by SS'ing some ****** Nemesis. Otherwise it's a waste of time.
more of referencing the bubble of invulnerability.
Well duh. That has nothing to do with your melee or power dmg bonuses though.
more of referencing the bubble of invulnerability.
Yeah, teammates will prop up the bubble and you end up doing no damage with a Phantom in your face. Or they simply melee you out of SS.
And you still can't SS Atlases. SS'ing Ravagers is often a death sentence, can't really SS Banshees, because they scream and stagger you, enemies turn around and smack you in the face way before you even arrive and cloaking out of sight thing is total BS, because it doesn't really work 100% of the time.
I use SS only for relocation and to refill my shields by SS'ing some ****** Nemesis. Otherwise it's a waste of time.
I still run a dedicated melee build you just have to know which targets to prioritize or avoid.
Shadow with max SS and melee all the way.
More than half the infiltrators can do the (sniper bonus) cloak > snipe cycle but only one can pull off the cloak > stab from behind move. The choice for me is clear.
This is why I run melee Shadow mainly because every other infiltrator can already run a sniper build.
And you still can't SS Atlases. SS'ing Ravagers is often a death sentence, can't really SS Banshees, because they scream and stagger you, enemies turn around and smack you in the face way before you even arrive and cloaking out of sight thing is total BS, because it doesn't really work 100% of the time.
I use SS only for relocation and to refill my shields by SS'ing some ****** Nemesis. Otherwise it's a waste of time.
I only attack Banshees when they are teleporting. It places me out of reach where they have been and they take full damage.
SS is only useful to strategically move around the map and mop up mooks. If you stagger/stun them first, they can't attack you during SS (which is lag BS anyway).
Btw Ravagers... last time I accidently used SS on a Swarmer and then stood right in front of the Ravager. Fun times. ^^
I still run a dedicated melee build you just have to know which targets to prioritize or avoid.
I do have melee damage on the Shadow and I do max SS.
Oh yeah, can't SS abominations in either stage. One will take your shields out and stagger you, the other one will simply kill you. SS Shadow is so handicaped that it's comical. 
Oh.. and SS works best if you surprise the enemy. Don't let them see you before you cloak/SS, that usually prevents them from going into melee during the SS animation.
Honestly, SS is a cool idea but it's too slow. If you could cancel the animation it might be more useful but as it is your dps won't keep up with the weapon kits. Often your team will kill your target before your animation finishes.
Still... my Shadow is full SS/ES spec for the Tech challenges. Only 3 points in Fitness though (TC is at 5), I don't really use her for swordplay. That's the Slayer's job. Also, he has the points to spare cause Biotic Slash is depressingly bad. (Hey, back on topic!)
I prefer my Infiltrators to use sniper rifles, only the GI switches to the GPS sometimes, the TGI uses a Saber and the Huntress the Talon.
Oh.. and SS works best if you surprise the enemy. Don't let them see you before you cloak/SS, that usually prevents them from going into melee during the SS animation.
Honestly, SS is a cool idea but it's too slow. If you could cancel the animation it might be more useful but as it is your dps won't keep up with the weapon kits. Often your team will kill your target before your animation finishes.
Still... my Shadow is full SS/ES spec for the Tech challenges. Only 3 points in Fitness though (TC is at 5), I don't really use her for swordplay. That's the Slayer's job. Also, he has the points to spare cause Biotic Slash is depressingly bad. (Hey, back on topic!)
I prefer my Infiltrators to use sniper rifles, only the GI switches to the GPS sometimes, the TGI uses a Saber and the Huntress the Talon.
Melee damage passives benefit SS damage 
And it doesn't really matter if the enemy didn't see you cloak/ss, if you SS when "peek" at your location (a.k.a. cheat) they will turn around and smack your dumb face with peoples elbow of doom 
Melee damage passives benefit SS damage
I know but I can't spare the points. Got to have ES, too. Otherwise I'd have to respec all the time.
I know but I can't spare the points. Got to have ES, too. Otherwise I'd have to respec all the time.
ES is not worth more than 3 points if at all. It's annoyng, it's slow, it shakes screen, the damage is not that great. Basically only I'm allowed to use it near you, when you snipe.
ES is not worth more than 3 points if at all. It's annoyng, it's slow, it shakes screen, the damage is not that great. Basically only I'm allowed to use it near you, when you snipe.
I only play Shadow for the two Tech challenges. As mediocre as they are, SS and ES can be completed in two missions. It's also a nice change of pace, especially if you get Geth.
My controller's buttons find me depressing. 
Man I was so excited when Biower announced the Shadow. I always wanted a Phantom kit (still want to play as a Phantom) but then it turned out, that every other N7 kit was miles better either at damage or combos.
Kinda depressing
Man I was so excited when Biower announced the Shadow. I always wanted a Phantom kit (still want to play as a Phantom) but then it turned out, that every other N7 kit was miles better either at damage or combos.
Kinda depressing
+1
Btw... I think tomorrow I'll switch my Shadow to this: http://kalence.drupa...24553314!C39D9G
It's still depressing that you have to decide between melee dmg and health/shields. The kit that uses them most can't choose them. Brilliant.
+1
Btw... I think tomorrow I'll switch my Shadow to this: http://kalence.drupa...24553314!C39D9G
It's still depressing that you have to decide between melee dmg and health/shields. The kit that uses them most can't choose them. Brilliant.
I think this it better
http://kalence.drupa...24N56314!C39D9G
or this
http://kalence.drupa...24N56314!C39D9G
Were Salarian Soldier Cryo Grenades actually on the table, or was that just something someone made up as a cool idea? Because that was a pretty cool idea.
Get it??
Think Snap Freeze in grenade form. That would have been fun.
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