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[Lilithor]

So I made the mistake of watching The Legend of the Seeker... what little imagination I thought Bioware had died by watching this series

 

So now I have the complete DA/Thedas thing...

 

- Lord of the Rings

- A Song of Ice and Fire

- The Wheel of Time

- The Sword of Truth

 

Seriously there are no writters at Bioware, just a bunch of fanboys writting crossovers. Oh of course, and go the easy way out by mirroring real life opression, story and cultures. Couldn't they try a little harder to not be just a copy/paste ****?

 

Oh, and you might be wondering why post it in Inquisition forum, it is because the 2nd season of The Legend of the Seeker (book: Stone of Tears) story is about a super evil guy that sends demons from the underworld to the land of living because a ****** massive green explosion made a huge TEAR IN THE VEIL sometimes they refer to it as a rift... veil rift... VEIL...

 

I wish I hadn't watch this series... a lot of people asked me to, I guess I delayed it to prevent me for knowing for sure how Bioware writters suck (since they copy lore, faction or even plot from their "inspirations"). But seriously, I don't understand how they lack so much self respect that they would just go on mixing and matching various famous fantasy books to achieve this sad mosaic nothing.

So blood magic, mage tower, gerywardens, old gods, and so on, nothing belongs to them, all copied... so sad. But to copy the main plot of their game from a book, in such a ridiculous way... it is depressing.

If they like copying so much I wish I could play a mord-sith. There is the seeker, the blood mages, the night's watch, the white tower and a lot of other boring stuff but the goddess-like marvelawesome mord-sith are not present =(

 

Bioware COPY THE ****** GOOD STUFF INSTEAD OF COPYING ONLY THE BORING STUFF! FOR GODDESS SAKE!

 

https://www.google.c...iw=1920&bih=963

[AlanC9]

One thread of this stuff wasn't enough?

[Terodil]

So I made the mistake of watching The Legend of the Seeker... what little imagination I thought Bioware had died by watching this series

Oh good lord, I would have warned against watching that. If you haven't yet, read the books. They're SO MUCH better. Seriously. Considering how protective T. G. usually is of his stuff (it took him years to agree to a TV series 'because it had to be done right'!), I really don't understand how he could give his placet to this... eh... enterprise.
 

If they like copying so much I wish I could play a mord-sith. There is the seeker, the blood mages, the night's watch, the white tower and a lot of other boring stuff but the goddess-like marvelawesome mord-sith are not present =(

I KNOW! Me too. The M-S are one of the best parts of the books. Wait till you get to "Temple of the Winds" (book 4) and "Faith of the Fallen" (book 6)... I don't use this smiley often but...

Also, apologies for the OT. But I felt like focusing on what I love (the books) rather than what I don't love about DA:I atm...

[Baalthazar]

And here I thought they got the whole travel-around-closing-gates-to-the-other-world plot from Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion...

[thats1evildude]

OHMIGOD!!!!

SOMEONE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED LEGEND OF THE SEEKER TO YOU?!

[X Equestris]

So I made the mistake of watching The Legend of the Seeker... what little imagination I thought Bioware had died by watching this series
 
So now I have the complete DA/Thedas thing...
 
- Lord of the Rings
- A Song of Ice and Fire
- The Wheel of Time
- The Sword of Truth
 
Seriously there are no writters at Bioware, just a bunch of fanboys writting crossovers. Oh of course, and go the easy way out by mirroring real life opression, story and cultures. Couldn't they try a little harder to not be just a copy/paste ****?
 
Oh, and you might be wondering why post it in Inquisition forum, it is because the 2nd season of The Legend of the Seeker (book: Stone of Tears) story is about a super evil guy that sends demons from the underworld to the land of living because a ****** massive green explosion made a huge TEAR IN THE VEIL sometimes they refer to it as a rift... veil rift... VEIL...
 
I wish I hadn't watch this series... a lot of people asked me to, I guess I delayed it to prevent me for knowing for sure how Bioware writters suck (since they copy lore, faction or even plot from their "inspirations"). But seriously, I don't understand how they lack so much self respect that they would just go on mixing and matching various famous fantasy books to achieve this sad mosaic nothing.
So blood magic, mage tower, gerywardens, old gods, and so on, nothing belongs to them, all copied... so sad. But to copy the main plot of their game from a book, in such a ridiculous way... it is depressing.
If they like copying so much I wish I could play a mord-sith. There is the seeker, the blood mages, the night's watch, the white tower and a lot of other boring stuff but the goddess-like marvelawesome mord-sith are not present =(
 
Bioware COPY THE ****** GOOD STUFF INSTEAD OF COPYING ONLY THE BORING STUFF! FOR GODDESS SAKE!
 
https://www.google.c...iw=1920&bih=963

Guess what? Writers have been copying elements from other stories and real life since the beginning of time. It's absolutely nothing new.

[AresKeith]

So you make the same thread over again to complain about the same thing over again

 

You are definitely trying to hard

[SACanuckin Oz]

I always thought they got the rift thingy, from well, you know, RIFT....the boring MMORPG. The endless fetch quests, multiple purchasable mounts (when you can only ride one anyway), etc. etc. led me down this (now proven beyond a doubt) erroneous deduction.

 

So glad this has been cleared up.

 

Or has it...? 

[Baalthazar]

I always thought they got the rift thingy, from well, you know, RIFT....the boring MMORPG. The endless fetch quests, multiple purchasable mounts (when you can only ride one anyway), etc. etc. led me down this (now proven beyond a doubt) erroneous deduction.

 

So glad this has been cleared up.

 

Or has it...? 

 

 

No way, they totally got that from the PnP RPG Rifts (no relation to MMO Rift, except maybe a copyright claim):

 

http://en.wikipedia....e-playing_game)

[Lethaya]

Fantasy Tropes:  they exist.

 

It's what you do with them that counts.

[b10d1v]

Far more difficult to start from scratch and form new ideas that tempt your consciousness, much easier to approach variations on accepted themes.  Now put creativity on a schedule -what will you choose?

 

Imagine the sciences were the spark of a thought is converted to a theory of how something in Nature works - Different type of creativity and that process doesn't happen overnight or in a vacuum.

[In Exile]

It's not as if LoTR didn't just rip off mythology like nobody's business (including Christianity). Asoiaf is meant to be a deconstruction and reconstruction of the last 50-60 years of fantasy tropes post-LoTR - it's not even meant to be purely original, and it borrows greatly for actual history. 

[c00lgy24]

Oh good god another one?!

[Lethaya]

I very much doubt this one will be the last. xD

[phantomrachie]

All fantasy stories are basically just the Norse Eddas.

 

Humans have been writing the same stories 'with a twist' since we started to tell stories.

 

If you take Norse, Celtic & Greek Myths, you'll find many similarities between them all, powerful humans, mystical creatures, great quests, monsters to slay etc

 

Modern day fantasy is no different. 

 

If you boil down all fantasy stories to their main ideas, then they are all copies of each other, it's how those stories are told that is important.

 

The main ideas in Lord of the Rings and the Wheel of Time are very similar, but you couldn't confuse the two stories because they are told in a different way with different aspects or twists on common story tropes.

 

Even something as different as the 'Ship Who Sang' (which should totally have been a film or at least a mini series by now) has similarities with other sci/fantasy stories due to the nature of how humans tells stories. 

 

It's the same with Dragon Age and BioWare. 

[Kantr]

All fantasy stories are basically just the Norse Eddas.

 

Humans have been writing the same stories 'with a twist' since we started to tell stories.

 

If you take Norse, Celtic & Greek Myths, you'll find many similarities between them all, powerful humans, mystical creatures, great quests, monsters to slay etc

 

Modern day fantasy is no different. 

 

If you boil down all fantasy stories to their main ideas, then they are all copies of each other, it's how those stories are told that is important.

 

The main ideas in Lord of the Rings and the Wheel of Time are very similar, but you couldn't confuse the two stories because they are told in a different way with different aspects or twists on common story tropes.

 

Even something as different as the 'Ship Who Sang' (which should totally have been a film or at least a mini series by now) has similarities with other sci/fantasy stories due to the nature of how humans tells stories. 

 

It's the same with Dragon Age and BioWare. 

Exactly. It's not what the story is based on so much as how you tell the story.

[Sylvius the Mad]

- Lord of the Rings
- A Song of Ice and Fire
- The Wheel of Time
- The Sword of Truth

As others have pointed out in the thread, those 4 aren't particularly original either. The only difference with Dragon Age is that you happen to be familiar with the source material from which it draws.

If you already know the Kalevala, LotR doesn't look original. But since most consumers of English-language literature don't read Finnish folklore, LotR looks original.

[Lilithor]

As others have pointed out in the thread, those 4 aren't particularly original either. The only difference with Dragon Age is that you happen to be familiar with the source material from which it draws.

If you already know the Kalevala, LotR doesn't look original. But since most consumers of English-language literature don't read Finnish folklore, LotR looks original.

Copy of the copy of the copy of the copy is suppose to be less retarded?

I have special love for any of the "original" source I posted, nor did I claim they were original.
I just pointed Bioware is EXTREMELY ridiculous, as I said, a bunch of fanboys writting crossovers.

Also copying exact things even keeping the names, and as you pointed, from things that are already copies is beyond any measure of lame I know.

Last but not least, people mistake copying "universal" inspirations like real life culture/mithology with copying what was developed upon these. Which is Bioware ridiculous case.

[AlanC9]

Bio was never any different from what they are now.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Bio was never any different from what they are now.

Which is why KotOR's plot follows the formula from the original Star Wars movies so closely.

[In Exile]

Which is why KotOR's plot follows the formula from the original Star Wars movies so closely.

 

Indeed, that was the point of KoTOR one would think. Aside from their little twists. Very much the game that got me into cRPGs, so I'll always look to it fondly. 

[Kevorka]

:angry:They only use some of those things for ideas.

:rolleyes:They also use there own ideas. Give them a break. They also try to add some of our idea's from the forum.