The events of the comics happened in all our imports albeit with variations of events based on our decisions, Varric confirms this by saying how he knows Alistair and the new Arishok (Sten) So all that incompetence and idiocy happened in imports where Alistair was King, like yours.
Thats literally impossible, since some of our imports involves Alistair being dead thanks to Anora. So no, it does not apply to all Imports, and thus cannot be applied to the greater whole.
Thats literally impossible, since some of our imports involves Alistair being dead thanks to Anora. So no, it does not apply to all Imports, and thus cannot be applied to the greater whole.
Loghain might take his place, then. The real problem is if they're both dead.
Exactly my point. Those comics can only apply to Bioware's default World State, because our imports involve variables that blatantly contradict the world of those comics.
The events of the comics happened in all our imports albeit with variations of events based on our decisions, Varric confirms this by saying how he knows Alistair and the new Arishok (Sten) So all that incompetence and idiocy happened in imports where Alistair was King, like yours.
Your not wrong.
Well you sound like some sort of bleeding heart romanticist but regardless.
Evolution doesn't work on such a concept of goals but nature didn't give humanity more then the basis.
Humanity is what it is because of goals, it survives, it thrives because of goals.
From catching game to collecting roots and berries, Mankind became the supreme domineering species because it has kept marching.
Four thousand years ago humanity had language both spoken and written, eight thousand years ago, Humanity had established settlements, mines, farms, tools.
So is nature the tree by which I judge us? No, for it stopped being the measure long before our ancestors even crawled from their caves.
It is humans that measure humans.
Perhaps God if you want a higher power involved, but anything less is unworthy to even contemplate standing in judgement of humanity.
This very message board on which we converse, the internet, computers, electronics, power, society.
These things are so far beyond anything else on this little pebble by merit of achievement alone humanity is superior.
And as superior beings humans have the right, the divine unalienable right to stand in judgment of our lesser primate cousin along with everything thing else.
Philosophers have argued that the merits of self actualization are what drive humans to destroy everything around them.
I say?
It's our right as superior beings.
This pebble and everything else are mere resources bestowed upon humanity by virtue of it's collective will.
You glorify the achievements of humanity wrongly in my opinion. So we have created pretty baubles. We still are victims of the whims of fate, of a grand machine of which we are but an ant in comparison, our destinies are dictated by natural disasters, weather, even something as seemingly insignificant as a small pathogen. Nature is still in control, we fight and struggle everyday, not just with each other but with the world around us. The "superiority" of humans is illusory. We create and think ourselves mighty only to be humbled by an earthquake, or an epidemic. For such is the fate of humanity, small pieces on a chessboard in a game that was charted long ago, actors in a play, we play our part and then we exit and the world barely remembers our passing.
Also this "divine unalienable right" confuses me, why do you think we have any sort of divine right?
Also this "divine unalienable right" confuses me, why do you think we have any sort of divine right?
^_^My Inquisitor is a pacifist, but like the Romans said: ''Si vis pacem para bellum''.
So no a naive pacifist, but a wise one. He has built diplomatic relations with Nevarra,Ferelden,Orzammar and Tevinter..for a strong ,prosper and balanced Thedas.
He get Gaspard killed because was a brutal warmonger, unmanageable and Dangerous.
While Celene liked peace and economic prosperity. Plus, with Briala by her side:
1: Celine is more malleable...less ardened and cinic, more open to..suggestions (you know..gratitude, and the Inquisitor is powerful...king Alistair's gratitude and friendship, Nevarra's and Tevinter's gratitude as well... and the Chantry depends on him... )
2: like the mage rebellion teaches, it is time to reform Thedas, not only with regard to mage conditions but Elven population as well...or another Dangerous civil war could weaken all the Thedas with serious consequences...( the Qunary are always a threat). and Briala could ensure this...but only if counterbalanced by Celene(as empress and lover...) 
Screw Briala, I refuse to have someone like that speak for the elves. The Dalish can kiss my a**, but the Alienage elves for the most part don't sit around acting self righteous and superior, and deserve someone a lot better than Briala. So no, I'll wait until someone who isn't Briala to come along before I help those elves.
It is time for Ferelden to take the Dales
Nevarra+Ferelden= Bye Bye Orlais
You can't crush Nevarra. It's a country made up entirely of Cassandra Pentaghasts.
It's invincible.
(Disgusted noise) there is only 1 Hero of Orlais.
The events of the comics happened in all our imports albeit with variations of events based on our decisions, Varric confirms this by saying how he knows Alistair and the new Arishok (Sten) So all that incompetence and idiocy happened in imports where Alistair was King, like yours.
Not necessarily he can be a GW as well, everything is better than Alistair as king of Ferelden even an empty throne
I think the power structure of Tevinter is such that a single dead magister is just an opportunity for advancement for everyone, especially if the Magister dies ignobly on some foreign adventure.I have to wonder if killing Magisters even constitutes an act of war for Tevinter, because it seems like getting killed by any foreigner that isn't qunari is just treated like an occupational hazard, especially since these sinister wizards seem content to constantly go off to do weirdly nefarious things on foreign soil all the time.
Loghain might take his place, then. The real problem is if they're both dead.
I don't think Sten can die.
Sten can die in two ways in DA:O - being left in the cage in Lothering or at the hands of the Warden.
Sten can die in two ways in DA:O - being left in the cage in Lothering or at the hands of the Warden.
I don't think the cage kills him anymore than not taking Leliana kills her. I'm more interested about this Warden killing him. When does that happen? I know you duel at Haven if you lack approval or persuades but I don't recall him dying.
He cant die, when you win r the duel, you either banish him or say to him to fall in line.
Damn, I thought you could kill him. I had planned to do so in a future play through. Oh well ...
Screw Briala, I refuse to have someone like that speak for the elves. The Dalish can kiss my a**, but the Alienage elves for the most part don't sit around acting self righteous and superior, and deserve someone a lot better than Briala. So no, I'll wait until someone who isn't Briala to come along before I help those elves.
The Dalish are a highly diverse bunch as are the city elves, so claiming that the entirety of such a diverse culture all act self righteous and superior while the other mostly never does is simply incorrect. If you're looking for an effective leader for the elves who isn't Briala, you'll be looking a long time. Any elf in Orlais that aims to get to the position that Briala is in has to be ruthless and ambitious. Any elf that tries to circumvent the Game will soon find themselves on the end of a chevalier's sword. You've already admitted to choosing Celene despite the vast amount of people she's killed to reach the position she's in and maintain it, so I'm not sure exactly why you view Briala as particularly abhorrent when everyone else at the very top of the Game is equally or even more ruthless than she is.
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better than bitchy Celene and Briala any day
But I also read the book so I'm biased, Gaspard is the only rightful Emperor
better than bitchy Celene and Briala any day
But I also read the book so I'm biased, Gaspard is the only rightful Emperor
In the playthroughs I've completed (I haven't seen them all), the best endings I got for Orlais were either Celene and Briala reunited or Gaspard ruling alone and at peace with Ferelden. All three leaders together resulted in continued unrest, while Briala ruling through Gaspard would probably result in a coup d'etat by the Orlesian nobles.
In the playthroughs I've completed (I haven't seen them all), the best endings I got for Orlais were either Celene and Briala reunited or Gaspard ruling alone and at peace with Ferelden. All three leaders together resulted in continued unrest, while Briala ruling through Gaspard would probably result in a coup d'etat by the Orlesian nobles.
The Dalish are a highly diverse bunch as are the city elves, so claiming that the entirety of such a diverse culture all act self righteous and superior while the other mostly never does is simply incorrect. If you're looking for an effective leader for the elves who isn't Briala, you'll be looking a long time. Any elf in Orlais that aims to get to the position that Briala is in has to be ruthless and ambitious. Any elf that tries to circumvent the Game will soon find themselves on the end of a chevalier's sword. You've already admitted to choosing Celene despite the vast amount of people she's killed to reach the position she's in and maintain it, so I'm not sure exactly why you view Briala as particularly abhorrent when everyone else at the very top of the Game is equally or even more ruthless than she is.
I choose Celene because none of the options are ones I would like to choose, but she at the least does not want to kill everyone. that isn't Orlais. Unlike a lot of people I care about everyone, not just Ferelden "because DAO". Briala can go to hell because she very much gives off the impression that she believes she is better than Gaspard and Celene, and more worthy of your support, because elves. The Masked Empire has admittedly colored by Bias. But in the opposite way it seems to have done for others. Everyone seems to think "aww they were lovers how cute! lets totally have them make up!" Where as I see it totally differently. Like Samara said, you can have 3 humans in a room and there will be six opinions.
I choose Celene because none of the options are ones I would like to choose, but she at the least does not want to kill everyone. that isn't Orlais. Unlike a lot of people I care about everyone, not just Ferelden "because DAO". Briala can go to hell because she very much gives off the impression that she believes she is better than Gaspard and Celene, and more worthy of your support, because elves. The Masked Empire has admittedly colored by Bias. But in the opposite way it seems to have done for others. Everyone seems to think "aww they were lovers how cute! lets totally have them make up!" Where as I see it totally differently. Like Samara said, you can have 3 humans in a room and there will be six opinions.
None of the candidates want to "kill everyone" but all of them can and will kill to achieve their goals. As for Briala, improving elven rights and representation is one of her goals, but she also promises the Inquisition access to her widespread spy network (on top of the military support from Orlais) should they support her in the talks and as Leliana points out - if the Inquisition raises Briala from nothing, she's likely the candidate that will be most loyal to the Inquisition. Those who've read TME will also know about her possession and control of the eluvian network. Considering the particularly appalling treatment that elves endure in Orlais, I'd say such changes are needed, but even if you don't care at all about elven rights, there are plenty of other reasons to back Briala.
Gaspard rules with Briala to hold his reigns.
Nothing like a knife hanging behind your back to keep you in line.
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