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[Queen Skadi]

I'm guessing that you don't actually read the BSN

 

Ohoho well if it isn't the Pot calling the Kettle black, I am well aware that there are many people who have taken issue with the abundance of fetch quests in Inquisition (and rightfully so) however while some of them may take issue with certain aspects of the Witcher series as well I find most of the people who do try to play up the faults in the Witcher series as bigger than they really are are the sort of people who would fly into a rage whenever somebody points out that the Dragon Age series is guilty of the same flaw.

 

In all honesty the fetch quests in the Witcher series are no worse than the Chanter's board quests in Origins

[Queen Skadi]

The Witcher (2007) was released before Assassin's Creed (AS1 2008) so not likely.

 

The quest being referred to was actually in the Witcher 2 which was released in 2011, Assassin's Creed 2 was released in 2009

[In Exile]

Ohoho well if it isn't the Pot calling the Kettle black, I am well aware that there are many people who have taken issue with the abundance of fetch quests in Inquisition (and rightfully so) however while some of them may take issue with certain aspects of the Witcher series as well I find most of the people who do try to play up the faults in the Witcher series as bigger than they really are are the sort of people who would fly into a rage whenever somebody points out that the Dragon Age series is guilty of the same flaw.

 

In all honesty the fetch quests in the Witcher series are no worse than the Chanter's board quests in Origins

 

Absolutely no one brings up TW to demean it. The only time it ever comes up is when we get a "TW Rulz, DA Drulz" post every so often. 

[Heimdall]

Makes me laugh how many people on the BSN complain about the fetch quests in the Witcher series as if they haven't played Inquisition, sure there was the odd fetch quest but I don't really remember them being all that intrusive or numerous in nature, usually you would complete them as you were doing other quests, the only fetch quest I can think of in the Witcher series that was obnoxiously tedious was the Harpy feather quest but then I am pretty sure that was part of the joke.

Not sure if this is directed at me, but when I complain about the fetch quests in TW, I am in no way absolving DAI of its failings in that area.

[Addai]

It really is.  It kinda astounds me how many people are willing to swallow the monster hunter label as a legitimate excuse for endless kill x monster fetch quests.  The first game especially is incredibly overrated.

 

The story's not bad though.

Because it's what a witcher does. All of those could be accomplished easily just by exploring the map and doing the story-based quests.

 

The only problem I had with the monster quests is that you had purchase overpriced books to learn about said monsters. 

I like the fact that research is involved.

 

The running back and forth itself I could deal with, it was running into all the damn bloedzuigers and whatnot while running that got to me.

The thing about the swamp is that you can blow past anything and just keep running. Though one of my favorite minigames is to run around collecting drowners like fleas and see how many I can kill by exploding one bloedzuiger in their midst, or one igni blast.

[Call Me Jord]

Aw man, people complaining about fetch quests? Thank god I have a fresh Cuppa, this is going to be entertaining!

 

Never had a problem with them, if they bother you on the level that it becomes a phobia. Put the game down entirely or just ignore them. As others have said, the key is to do them while doing the main quest.

 

Anyway;

 

It still rattles me that the Witcher 3 is finally coming out this month. No more delays. The game has gone Gold. And in 15 days, or 14 days + -said hours and minutes- until the game unlocks. It's going to be beautiful.

 

And like many of you, I have my priorities. That's why when I find the first Inn/Tavern, I'll be looking for Arm Wrestling and every other mini-game to make some Orens quick and easy.

[wolfsite]

Assassin's Creed came out in 2007. And how is the first Witcher in any way relevant to a joke made in The Witcher 2?

Considering the number of Fetch Quests in The Witcher it would be the pot calling the kettle black.

[wolfsite]

That's not the point you were making though.

Are you sure?  Did you talk to me about what point I was trying to make?

[Queen Skadi]

Are you sure?  Did you talk to me about what point I was trying to make?

 

So what was your point? Witcher sucks and we should all worship Dragon Age?

[Kantr]

I'm playing through the first game now. Which I think was a bit of a mistake doing so after playing DA:I (mainly I want to jump and the combat system is a bit weird). I should have played this after DA:O where the games share the same engine and are similar graphics wise.

 

Still I will pre-order The Witcher 3 for the goodies and hopefully I will find myself enjoying the first game.

 

I am not enjoying though that the quests are not clear in what you need to do. It might be that I'm not paying enough attention but I wish I didnt have to use an online walkthrough.

[wolfsite]

So what was your point? Witcher sucks and we should all worship Dragon Age?

Wow. way to represent.

 

The point was it is rather funny for CDProjectRed to poke fun at another game for fetch quests when there own games are pretty heavy in them as well.

[wolfsite]

I'm playing through the first game now. Which I think was a bit of a mistake doing so after playing DA:I (mainly I want to jump and the combat system is a bit weird). I should have played this after DA:O where the games share the same engine and are similar graphics wise.

 

Still I will pre-order The Witcher 3 for the goodies and hopefully I will find myself enjoying the first game.

 

I am not enjoying though that the quests are not clear in what you need to do. It might be that I'm not paying enough attention but I wish I didnt have to use an online walkthrough.

 

The retail version shipped with a full paperback walkthrough.

[wolfsite]

And how do dates of release illustrate such a point? Which is what your reply to slimgrin was.

I was just putting dates for people who were curious when the games were released in case they wanted that context.

[Kantr]

The retail version shipped with a full paperback walkthrough.

I stopped looking for pc games in stores years ago when they stopped stocking them.

 

I have the Enhanced edition. from gog

[wolfsite]

I stopped looking for pc games in stores years ago when they stopped stocking them.

 

I have the Enhanced edition. from gog

The physical copy I have had the walktrough, soundtrack CD, maps, mini documentary disc, a softcover book with excerpts one of the original books.  When it comes to bonus content very few can match CDProjectRed that is for certain.

 

Actually I have the physical version of Witcher 2 and that came with a lot of physical bonus stuff as well.

[turuzzusapatuttu]

dont waste your time with that crap

 

[Nerevar-as]

I stopped looking for pc games in stores years ago when they stopped stocking them.

I have the Enhanced edition. from gog

It is in the goodies section in the gog library entry. Reading the diary should be enough though.

[Farci Reprimer]

Witcher series have never had any fetch quests. Not in the scale of DAI or many other games at least.

 

Even when you were tasked as Geralt to gather something and deliver something from point A to B there was ALWAYS some meaningful context on what you were doing and why. Even if it sometimes was just hunting monsters it still felt like making your living as a mutated monster slayer in grim medieval world if nothing else.

 

Those that whine about going back and forth through the map endlessly should seriously just learn to plan ahead while playing when going for example to the swamp in WItcher 1; how many quests are there available? Can I do some additional tasks while there so I dont have to do any more additional trips than necessary? Or should I wait for a while yet and see how things develop in Temple quarter and go only when all most obvious quests have run out here?

 

Seriously, when you just think a little before you do stuff, it doesnt become nearly as tedious over time and you can enjoy your play that much more.

 

But then again, this very thing is one of the biggest reasons why I enjoy the witcher games so much: they dont underestimate your intelligence and challenge you to create your own way of playing without holding your hand every other second.

I can imagine that those that arent so sharp witted as some, would find it difficult to fully appreciate the more than average complexity of the witcher games.

Some enjoy playing witcher, some enjoy playing mario kart. Different games for different players.

[wolfsite]

Witcher series have never had any fetch quests. Not in the scale of DAI or many other games at least.

 

Even when you were tasked as Geralt to gather something and deliver something from point A to B there was ALWAYS some meaningful context on what you were doing and why. Even if it sometimes was just hunting monsters it still felt like making your living as a mutated monster slayer in grim medieval world if nothing else.

 

Those that whine about going back and forth through the map endlessly should seriously just learn to plan ahead while playing when going for example to the swamp in WItcher 1; how many quests are there available? Can I do some additional tasks while there so I dont have to do any more additional trips than necessary? Or should I wait for a while yet and see how things develop in Temple quarter and go only when all most obvious quests have run out here?

 

Seriously, when you just think a little before you do stuff, it doesnt become nearly as tedious over time and you can enjoy your play that much more.

 

But then again, this very thing is one of the biggest reasons why I enjoy the witcher games so much: they dont underestimate your intelligence and challenge you to create your own way of playing without holding your hand every other second.

I can imagine that those that arent so sharp witted as some, would find it difficult to fully appreciate the more than average complexity of the witcher games.

Some enjoy playing witcher, some enjoy playing mario kart. Different games for different players.

When people call a game Fetch Quest: The Video game, then it has a problem with fetch quests - context does not excuse this, plus if it's your first time playing you can't really "plan ahead" to reduce the number of times you have to travel back and forth - and that includes talking to everybody before leaving an area.

 

Plus calling The Witcher a complex game when the combat is so simplistic that it devolves into a Quick time event were even fans and some of the games developers encourage people to get combat mods to improve the experience is a rather big contradiction (CDProject even hired one of the modders that created a new combat system for The Witcher by the way) and yes I have had fans of the games tell me to get mods to improve my experience, that alone is a red flag on a game if you need to mod it just to enjoy it.  Hell I never really bothered with the alchemy skills since I never once felt the need to use it outside of story required parts.

 

Plus love how you take jabs at people's intellect just because they don't like a video game, real classy there.

[Heimdall]

Witcher series have never had any fetch quests. Not in the scale of DAI or many other games at least.
 
Even when you were tasked as Geralt to gather something and deliver something from point A to B there was ALWAYS some meaningful context on what you were doing and why. Even if it sometimes was just hunting monsters it still felt like making your living as a mutated monster slayer in grim medieval world if nothing else.
 
Those that whine about going back and forth through the map endlessly should seriously just learn to plan ahead while playing when going for example to the swamp in WItcher 1; how many quests are there available? Can I do some additional tasks while there so I dont have to do any more additional trips than necessary? Or should I wait for a while yet and see how things develop in Temple quarter and go only when all most obvious quests have run out here?
 
Seriously, when you just think a little before you do stuff, it doesnt become nearly as tedious over time and you can enjoy your play that much more.
 
But then again, this very thing is one of the biggest reasons why I enjoy the witcher games so much: they dont underestimate your intelligence and challenge you to create your own way of playing without holding your hand every other second.
I can imagine that those that arent so sharp witted as some, would find it difficult to fully appreciate the more than average complexity of the witcher games.
Some enjoy playing witcher, some enjoy playing mario kart. Different games for different players.

"I enjoy this game because I'm smarter than you." Yeah, real mature there. Despite my complaints, I do enjoy the game, I just think it's incredibly overrated.

I do plan out my quests carefully to do them with the main quests wherever possible. I still find the busywork fetch quests annoying, and no "kill x monster because you are a monster slayer" does not stop it from being a fetch quest nor make it more interesting.

[SlottsMachine]

 

I like the fact that research is involved.

 

 

I would have too if the price of the books you needed to buy didn't negate the monetary reason of the quest.