I can work with them because I'm black and they "feel my struggle."
I once talked to a Trans person that said she could call herself a "n*gger" because she has felt with more problems than black people. Heavy sjw AND she was on Tumblr
She said far worse. She claimed men couldn't help but kill those two strippers and drag around their bodies, toy with em and pose their corpses. She implied that male gamers are drooling cavemen on the verge of killing and or committing rape at the mere sight of an attractive woman.
Is it bad thst I have no clue what GamerGate is?
No. It's not. I don't know how you don't know, but don't investigate any further. Consider yourself blessed.
Am I the only gamer left who doesn't care about Gamergate?
Although I did enjoy that Law and Order episode based on it because of all the memes it generated.
TIME TO LEVEL UP!
Am I the only gamer left who doesn't care about Gamergate?
I couldn't give two rips about the entire situation, either originally or currently.
Yes, you can't trust journalism to be impartial, fair and above corruption or reproach. That's endemic to ALL forms of journalism and has been since news travelled by how fast someone could run to the nearest settlement. Video game journalism has incentives, favors, cronyism and outright money switching hands, just like all other forms of journalism. If GamerGate wanted to be a legitimate watch dog organization for the industry, that would be one thing, but they don't - they want to target and attack those who violate the ethics of the profession, which is tantamount to a witch hunt, legitimate or not.
Meanwhile, their current crusade against the feminist/Tumblr/SJW/whatever-you-want-to-call-them is innane and borderline professional anthrax. Any association with these individuals or the brand name of GG now has metric tons worth of baggage and implication that make it useless for accomplishing anything of value outside of the Internet circle jerk that is already witness to the spectacle (and who long ago chosen their side). It's an epic joke to think even the best executed and intended plans of anyone bearing this monicker now will amount to reasonable responses. You'd have better luck adding ISIS to the United Nations than you would get anyone in the video game journalism or development arena to sit down openly and have a dialogue with anyone from GamerGate.
So regardless of their intentions and regardless of the fallacies of their opponents, GamerGate is insanely irrelevant to anything and everything that is going on in the industry, which means it garners my attention only as a punchline.
I think that's what they're to become a legit watchdog for ethics violations. At least the websites they targeted has changed their ethics policies and for a while Gamergate has been begging for people to have a dialogue although it's kinda hard to do that, when your opponent brands you as sexist terrorists.
Guest_Stormheart83_*
Just makes me glad I never bothered to read any of the articles about it. I'm ignorant of the subject for the most part and I couldn't care less, ignorance is bliss. I'm sure both sides have some valid arguments, however it always turns into a mud slinging match.I think that's what they're to become a legit watchdog for ethics violations. At least the websites they targeted has changed their ethics policies and for a while Gamergate has been begging for people to have a dialogue although it's kinda hard to do that, when your opponent brands you as sexist terrorists.
I couldn't give two rips about the entire situation, either originally or currently.
Yes, you can't trust journalism to be impartial, fair and above corruption or reproach. That's endemic to ALL forms of journalism and has been since news travelled by how fast someone could run to the nearest settlement. Video game journalism has incentives, favors, cronyism and outright money switching hands, just like all other forms of journalism. If GamerGate wanted to be a legitimate watch dog organization for the industry, that would be one thing, but they don't - they want to target and attack those who violate the ethics of the profession, which is tantamount to a witch hunt, legitimate or not.
Meanwhile, their current crusade against the feminist/Tumblr/SJW/whatever-you-want-to-call-them is innane and borderline professional anthrax. Any association with these individuals or the brand name of GG now has metric tons worth of baggage and implication that make it useless for accomplishing anything of value outside of the Internet circle jerk that is already witness to the spectacle (and who long ago chosen their side). It's an epic joke to think even the best executed and intended plans of anyone bearing this monicker now will amount to reasonable responses. You'd have better luck adding ISIS to the United Nations than you would get anyone in the video game journalism or development arena to sit down openly and have a dialogue with anyone from GamerGate.
So regardless of their intentions and regardless of the fallacies of their opponents, GamerGate is insanely irrelevant to anything and everything that is going on in the industry, which means it garners my attention only as a punchline.
How about bloggers and Journos consistently painting gamers in a bad light for the last 5-7 years? That doesn't bother you? I'm pretty sure Golfing mags or the boxing press couldn't get away with degrading sports fans for long...so why in the f*ck does the gaming press see fit to do it? Don't they have anything better to do? Keep in mind their attacks started long before precious Zoe Quinn became their patron saint. That's why it all blew up. Gamers were sick of it.
They are not to become anything more than a trending joke, disappearing as soon as the joke stops being as funny. They've squandered their integrity and their chance to become any of the things I'm sure they had wanted to be starting out due to blatant lack of professionalism. Mostly because they came in with an axe to grind (not always a cardinal sin in journalism) and then went out to not just report on those who violated the ethics of the industry's journalism, but to also judge and demonize them.I think that's what they're to become a legit watchdog for ethics violations. At least the websites they targeted has changed their ethics policies and for a while Gamergate has been begging for people to have a dialogue although it's kinda hard to do that, when your opponent brands you as sexist terrorists.
They are not to become anything more than a trending joke, disappearing as soon as the joke stops being as funny. They've squandered their integrity and their chance to become any of the things I'm sure they had wanted to be starting out due to blatant lack of professionalism. Mostly because they came in with an axe to grind (not always a cardinal sin in journalism) and then went out to not just report on those who violated the ethics of the industry's journalism, but to also judge and demonize them.
THAT'S their problem, at least as a brand. It's not a fact-chancing debate, it's a series of attacks at this point, now on both/all sides. All the facts in the world can't restore their credibility because being an effective watchdog group means MUCH more than always having a credible source. That's what GamerGate failed to realize at even their earliest stages and will continue to be mired in until the Internet forgets about them here shortly.
It's always been a war of attacks. Journalists threw the first molotov cocktail with their 11 article blitz about how anyone who uses the term gamer is morally wrong and mentally stunted. That was the tone set for any sort of discussion, and that was the tone that continued throughout the unfolding shitstorm.
And I don't think they'll disappear once it stops being funny. After all, Game Journalism is a joke that's stopped being funny after the whole mountain dew interview and calling anyone who didn't like a game "overly privileged" or having an "entitlement problem", and it's still alive and kicking after all these years.
Guest_TrillClinton_*
Am I the only gamer left who doesn't care about Gamergate?
I can't lie i followed it closely and I was very active at the beginning because I thought there was something there. Until it became more about "BTFO SJW ON TWITTER","Ebin twitter celeb maymays" and just the handling of it became terrible.
I really cannot stand both sides now.
Gamergate top kek
Bomb Threats even topper kek
I agree with old man Jim. Regardless of the legtimacy the group's intentions the shitposting, /pol/, trolls, and paid anti shills have made the moniker infamous to your average person. Like Tea Party infamous. Though i wouldn't say the group's actions are insanely irrelevant, since Law & Order SVU's dedicated episode Intimidation Game was the best hour long comedy i've seen in years.I couldn't give two rips about the entire situation, either originally or currently.
Yes, you can't trust journalism to be impartial, fair and above corruption or reproach. That's endemic to ALL forms of journalism and has been since news travelled by how fast someone could run to the nearest settlement. Video game journalism has incentives, favors, cronyism and outright money switching hands, just like all other forms of journalism. If GamerGate wanted to be a legitimate watch dog organization for the industry, that would be one thing, but they don't - they want to target and attack those who violate the ethics of the profession, which is tantamount to a witch hunt, legitimate or not.
Meanwhile, their current crusade against the feminist/Tumblr/SJW/whatever-you-want-to-call-them is innane and borderline professional anthrax. Any association with these individuals or the brand name of GG now has metric tons worth of baggage and implication that make it useless for accomplishing anything of value outside of the Internet circle jerk that is already witness to the spectacle (and who long ago chosen their side). It's an epic joke to think even the best executed and intended plans of anyone bearing this monicker now will amount to reasonable responses. You'd have better luck adding ISIS to the United Nations than you would get anyone in the video game journalism or development arena to sit down openly and have a dialogue with anyone from GamerGate.
So regardless of their intentions and regardless of the fallacies of their opponents, GamerGate is insanely irrelevant to anything and everything that is going on in the industry, which means it garners my attention only as a punchline.
It doesn't bother me in the least. Do you know why? Because just like golfers are the only ones reading golfing magazines, gamers (by and large) are the only ones to read sites like Kotaku, or RPS, or IGN. And these types of articles obviously achieve their goal - generate tons of ad traffic.How about bloggers and Journos consistently painting gamers in a bad light for the last 5-7 years? That doesn't bother you? I'm pretty sure Golfing mags or the boxing press couldn't get away with degrading sports fans for long...so why in the f*ck does the gaming press see fit to do it? Don't they have anything better to do? Keep in mind their attacks started long before precious Zoe Quinn became their patron saint. That's why it all blew up. Gamers were sick of it.
I agree with old man Jim. Regardless of the legtimacy the group's intentions the shitposting, /pol/, trolls, and paid anti shills have made the moniker infamous to your average person. Like Tea Party infamous. Though i wouldn't say the group's actions are insanely irrelevant, since Law & Order SVU's dedicated episode Intimidation Game was the best hour long comedy i've seen in years.
Lol, you're comparing it to the tea party, just take it one step further and say all Gamergaters are right wing extremists. You're half way there. This is hilarious. Hell, dispense with 'Gaters' and just say gamers, that's what the press has been doing all along. 
Okay as someone who doesn't follower Gamersgate. help me out Which is which with the pro-gg and anti-gg.
It's always been a war of attacks. Journalists threw the first molotov cocktail with their 11 article blitz about how anyone who uses the term gamer is morally wrong and mentally stunted. That was the tone set for any sort of discussion, and that was the tone that continued throughout the unfolding shitstorm.
And I don't think they'll disappear once it stops being funny. After all, Game Journalism is a joke that's stopped being funny after the whole mountain dew interview and calling anyone who didn't like a game "overly privileged" or having an "entitlement problem", and it's still alive and kicking after all these years.
Just makes me glad I never bothered to read any of the articles about it. I'm ignorant of the subject for the most part and I couldn't care less, ignorance is bliss. I'm sure both sides have some valid arguments, however it always turns into a mud slinging match.
The SJWs have no valid arguments though. All they care about is how "muh feelings" is more important than the rights and fun of others.
They are not to become anything more than a trending joke, disappearing as soon as the joke stops being as funny. They've squandered their integrity and their chance to become any of the things I'm sure they had wanted to be starting out due to blatant lack of professionalism. Mostly because they came in with an axe to grind (not always a cardinal sin in journalism) and then went out to not just report on those who violated the ethics of the industry's journalism, but to also judge and demonize them.
THAT'S their problem, at least as a brand. It's not a fact-chancing debate, it's a series of attacks at this point, now on both/all sides. All the facts in the world can't restore their credibility because being an effective watchdog group means MUCH more than always having a credible source. That's what GamerGate failed to realize at even their earliest stages and will continue to be mired in until the Internet forgets about them here shortly.
A joke for whom? Humorless SJW morons whose entire arugment consists of calling people racists/sexists/homophobes/bigots/terrorists/whatever? Sleazy "journalists" who write tabloid grade trash and think they are important for it? Lack of professionalism? When have either the SJWs or gaming press even shown the slightest bit of professionalism?
It doesn't matter what "GamerGate" tries to portay itself as. The SJWs and the "journalists" they are in bed with will still use the same line of attack because it is all they have. What matters first is showing them for what they are and stopping people from appeasing them. Let it be a witch hunt if it must. Let it be an eternal crusade.
How about bloggers and Journos consistently painting gamers in a bad light for the last 5-7 years? That doesn't bother you? I'm pretty sure Golfing mags or the boxing press couldn't get away with degrading sports fans for long...so why in the f*ck does the gaming press see fit to do it? Don't they have anything better to do? Keep in mind their attacks started long before precious Zoe Quinn became their patron saint. That's why it all blew up. Gamers were sick of it.
Okay as someone who doesn't follower Gamersgate. help me out Which is which with the pro-gg and anti-gg.
Guest_Stormheart83_*
Sick of what, exactly? The idea that there was anything untoward happening on the gaming media side with Quinn is outright lunacy. Her ex was an actual loon. It's the fact that this blew up around Quinn that makes it so hard to believe there's any legitimacy to GG.
There seems to be an eternal victim card this woman can play, or others can play on her behalf. I don't think anyone in the debate cares about her. She's irrelevant. You want to know what keeps GG alive? The press being douchebags. That's what it is imo. They simply want the clicks and the money it brings. So they keep agitating. It shows what they're role has become in the internet age
Guest_TrillClinton_*
Vidya allakbar!
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There seems to be an eternal victim card this woman can play, or others can play on her behalf. I don't think anyone in the debate cares about her. She's irrelevant. You want to know what keeps GG alive? The press being douchebags. That's what it is imo. They simply want the clicks and the money it brings. So they keep agitating. It shows what they're role has become in the internet age
Based on everything I've read about Quinn, she's not "playing" the victim card - she is a victim. Her ex is a nutter, and she's been further victimized by the clearly insane and misogynistic group of trolls that have hounded other public female figures in gaming.
The fact that it was her story that was the trigger is very much relevant to how GG is perceived. If this all started over some expose that EA had spent millions to shill for better reviews, you'd actually see more people sympathetic to the idea that GG isn't just a sham cover for a lot of troglodytes.
The "press" coverage for GG really is within the gaming sphere, and as FastJimmy points out, there are a lot of financial interests in using it as clickbait. And gaming "journalism" is largely a bunch of bloggers spewing their opinion professionally, largely being fed stories by the gaming industry they're meant to cover. It's comically crony, but GG isn't really exposing anything. If anything, they're making it far more difficult to actually expose the financial dynamics of the industry by going insane over a bunch of meaningless drama created by a clearly unstable nutter.
Outside of gaming, the only coverage for it is driven by the sheer lunacy of the alleged trolls (and I say alleged because it's not really ever clear how central they are to GG, individual theories about this aside) because what they're doing and saying is by any civilized standard insane misogynistic and often actually criminal.
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