Australia's 'Extreme' Copyright Bill Could Ban Anti-Copyright Thoughts
#26
Posté 04 mai 2015 - 09:14
#27
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 01:58
Lol, good luck enforcing it you crazy drunken Ozzies.
Given that discussions of copyright rarely take place on boards dedicated to it, so what are they going to do? Ban every board and block every site which discusses it? Pfffffffffffffffffft. good luck getting that through the court system, the service providers will drag it through the court system for years before anything is done. Then the sites will simply pop up elsewhere or people use proxy servers to circumvent it.
You can't shut down the sites which aren't in the jurisdiction of the Australian judicial system, so what are they actually attempting to achieve? If anything it should have been obvious that shutting down torrent and streaming sites has been like a game of whack a mole.
But Godspeed you crazy bastards, I like a good giggle.
Yeah, while we laugh they're restricting our freedoms. Just at the beginning of the year we were just fine, and I wasn't worried about anything. Then we all laughed when this new copyright bill was proposed thinking nothing would ever come of it. 3 months later we've laws legalizing unwarrented spying and the detainment of journalist informants, and data retention centres granting the government greater powers of surveilence, and now they're talking about restrictions on VPNs and thought crimes. Meanwhile, there was precedent setting case against a telco provider, so now the hollywood vultures have opened the door for a three strikes "education" program. It's not horrible or anything at the moment, but you know copyright holders are predators by nature and are going to look for ways to bring on the speculative invoicing, At the fast rate things are happening right now, we'll be half way to nazi germany before the next election.
#28
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:09
Australia is once again the world leader in neo fascism. Next in line the real red threat, the religious right and red state republicans.
- Dermain aime ceci
#29
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:10
Yeah, while we laugh they're restricting our freedoms. Just at the beginning of the year we were just fine, and I wasn't worried about anything. Then we all laughed when this new copyright bill was proposed thinking nothing would ever come of it. 3 months later we've laws legalizing unwarrented spying and the detainment of journalist informants, and data retention centres granting the government greater powers of surveilence, and now they're talking about restrictions on VPNs and thought crimes. Meanwhile, there was precedent setting case against a telco provider, so now the hollywood vultures have opened the door for a three strikes "education" program. It's not horrible or anything at the moment, but you know copyright holders are predators by nature and are going to look for ways to bring on the speculative invoicing, At the fast rate things are happening right now, we'll be half way to nazi germany before the next election.
Did you vote for Abbott at the last election?
I can't seem to find a single soul that will admit for voting for the LNP..
I voted greens and independants
#30
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:20
Is this now an Abbott bashing thread?

Aussies, how the f*ck did you give this man the reins to your country?
- Dermain aime ceci
#31
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:27
Fun times to be a voter in Australia.
- Dio Demon aime ceci
#32
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:28
Yeah, while we laugh they're restricting our freedoms. Just at the beginning of the year we were just fine, and I wasn't worried about anything. Then we all laughed when this new copyright bill was proposed thinking nothing would ever come of it. 3 months later we've laws legalizing unwarrented spying and the detainment of journalist informants, and data retention centres granting the government greater powers of surveilence, and now they're talking about restrictions on VPNs and thought crimes. Meanwhile, there was precedent setting case against a telco provider, so now the hollywood vultures have opened the door for a three strikes "education" program. It's not horrible or anything at the moment, but you know copyright holders are predators by nature and are going to look for ways to bring on the speculative invoicing, At the fast rate things are happening right now, we'll be half way to nazi germany before the next election.
Looks like hollywoods ordering another helping of DDOS and Hack Leaks for itself. They just can't get enough of those, it seems.
Australia is once again the world leader in neo fascism. Next in line the real red threat, the religious right and red state republicans.
Nah, the left leaning politicians would want the same policy. Only they'd say it was to better enforce anti-cyber bullying or some BS involving white privilege and misogyny fighting.
#33
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:29
Did you vote for Abbott at the last election?
I can't seem to find a single soul that will admit for voting for the LNP..
I voted greends and independants
Greens are worse... they are bloody crazy!
Abbott is a safer choice! Though sadly independents is basically a dummy vote... we really need more viable parties other than the two we currently have.
Labour is incompetent, Abbott is retarded and the Greens don't live on planet Earth.
Fun times to be a voter in Australia.
I vote for the Crusty Party... because no one can do worse than those three.
#34
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:32
Is this now an Abbott bashing thread?
Aussies, how the f*ck did you give this man the reins to your country?
I am not an aussie so I don't know. However...

#35
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:34
Lol, good luck enforcing it you crazy drunken Ozzies.
Given that discussions of copyright rarely take place on boards dedicated to it, so what are they going to do? Ban every board and block every site which discusses it? Pfffffffffffffffffft. good luck getting that through the court system, the service providers will drag it through the court system for years before anything is done. Then the sites will simply pop up elsewhere or people use proxy servers to circumvent it.
You can't shut down the sites which aren't in the jurisdiction of the Australian judicial system, so what are they actually attempting to achieve? If anything it should have been obvious that shutting down torrent and streaming sites has been like a game of whack a mole.
But Godspeed you crazy bastards, I like a good giggle.
As a purely hypothetical legal question, it's really not hard at all to see how they'd achieve this type of situation. It would be akin to freezing assets. You'd get an ex parte order on the basis that some website is in breach of the law, and then you could draft in a reverse onus into the law to have the shut-down order lifted.
The jurisdiction point is not necessarily fatal. The hypothetical legislation could entitle a court to order ISPs to ban access to a website (or URL) identified to host such content. Since the ISPs are in Australia, the order would be effective against them on penalty of civil contempt.
It's not hard to imagine some form of this type of law that could be effective - it would just be draconian, and one would imagine a lot of moneyed interests (like the aforementioned ISPs who would have to be made subject to it) would strenuously object.
#36
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:36
So when can we expect the Great Australian Exodus to begin?
#37
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:43
So when can we expect the Great Australian Exodus to begin?
Australians as a whole are too fecking lazy to protest when their rights are eroded.
Apathy seems to be a big thing here.
#38
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:46
Australians as a whole are too fecking lazy to protest when their rights are eroded.
Apathy seems to be a big thing here.
We kinda have no options to do so... we can't vote for a better party because none exist that can make a difference or they're the Gun Party, Weed Party, Sex Party, etc and I doubt they understand how to run a country.
#39
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:54
I can't believe centre-left "keep the bastards honest" thinking fell away for the kind of nuttery that the Greens provide.
#40
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:55
Is this now an Abbott bashing thread?
Aussies, how the f*ck did you give this man the reins to your country?
C'mon guys, give Tony a break. I mean sure, this bill would give American entertainment cartels the ability to define the limits of free speech in Australia, but I'm sure it was a mistake. No head of state can be the suppository of all wisdom.
- A Crusty Knight Of Colour aime ceci
#41
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 02:58
C'mon guys, give Tony a break. I mean sure, this bill would give American entertainment cartels the ability to define the limits of free speech in Australia, but I'm sure it was a mistake. No head of state can be the suppository of all wisdom.
Abbott needs a suppository of wisdom shoved up his ass.
I want the Australian Democrats back.
I can't believe centre-left "keep the bastards honest" thinking fell away for the kind of nuttery that the Greens provide.
Pfft honesty is so last century. We all want people whispering sweet nothings in our ear as the violently **** us from behind.
- A Crusty Knight Of Colour aime ceci
#42
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 03:00
- Dio Demon aime ceci
#43
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 03:01
I don't think australia is in charge of australias future guys...
#44
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 03:01
That said it's not all bad under Abbott. If he never became PM, we wouldn't have the Tony Abbott Taunt Pack in AoE2.
I think that actually made his hellish term as PM worth it.
69: STOP THE BOATS!
- A Crusty Knight Of Colour aime ceci
#45
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 03:27
I don't think australia is in charge of australias future guys...
At the moment the LNP is doing the bidding of the IPA and people like Murdoch
#46
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 03:28
We kinda have no options to do so... we can't vote for a better party because none exist that can make a difference or they're the Gun Party, Weed Party, Sex Party, etc and I doubt they understand how to run a country.
I would not mind the insanity of one of those parties trying to run things. It would be "unique"
Do you honestly think the LNP or ALP know how to run things? They are both puppets of whatever people get them into power and back them, and usually run whatever agenda their masters want.
No such thing as an honest politician anywhere on this planet.
#47
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 03:44
Is this now an Abbott bashing thread?
Aussies, how the f*ck did you give this man the reins to your country?
From what I understand he ran his campaign by going "Hey guys, the former prime minster got us in debt! Vote for me instead of them".
Sadly for Aussies, it worked.
We kinda have no options to do so... we can't vote for a better party because none exist that can make a difference or they're the Gun Party, Weed Party, Sex Party, etc and I doubt they understand how to run a country.
My Australian friends voted for them.
#48
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 04:17
I don't understand Australian politics. How is voting done when the wildlife kills everybody on the way to the polls?
#49
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 04:20
Topkek politicians, you ****** muppets.
Whatever, I'm not staying in this **** hole
#50
Posté 05 mai 2015 - 04:22
I don't understand Australian politics. How is voting done when the wildlife kills everybody on the way to the polls?
Smart people stay back and survive as well as get fined while stupid people die and some of them vote.





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