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#51
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I don't understand Australian politics. How is voting done when the wildlife kills everybody on the way to the polls?

Same way as Washington State, absentee ballots.



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Topkek politicians, you ****** muppets. 

 

Whatever, I'm not staying in this **** hole

Just don't go here. No murderous wildlife but it sucks here.



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I'm just waiting for the /k/ountry to be formed and I'll move there.

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I really feel bad for you people. 

 

If the U.S. ever gets someone like Abbot elected to the Presidency the world is doomed.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure we're all that far from getting someone like Abbott elected.  Or somebody WORSE than Abbott.



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Unfortunately, I'm not sure we're all that far from getting someone like Abbott elected.  Or somebody WORSE than Abbott.

In the US elections the presidential candidates are Hillary "Warmonger and Scam Artist" Clinton and Rand "I'm like my father but worse in every way" Paul. Yeah, you're screwed.
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In the US elections the presidential candidates are Hillary "Warmonger and Scam Artist" Clinton and Rand "I'm like my father but worse in every way" Paul. Yeah, you're screwed.

 

There are others.

 

One of the more amusing ones is a retired doctor who has the catch phrase "I don't want to be a politician", which I find odd because he's running to become a politician. Then there's Carly Fiorina who almost laid my uncle off multiple times when she was Layoff Queen (CEO) of HP. 


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There are others.

 

One of the more amusing ones is a retired doctor who has the catch phrase "I don't want to be a politician", which I find odd because he's running to become a politician. Then there's Carly Fiorina who almost laid my uncle off multiple times when she was Layoff Queen (CEO) of HP. 

I love those "I'm for small government/less government so I want to join the government" types.  At this point, I'm resigned to either protest votes for third-party candidates, or holding my nose and voting for the person who seems least likely to do things I disagree with.



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Same here in Scotland.



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There are others.

 

One of the more amusing ones is a retired doctor who has the catch phrase "I don't want to be a politician", which I find odd because he's running to become a politician. Then there's Carly Fiorina who almost laid my uncle off multiple times when she was Layoff Queen (CEO) of HP. 

 

Don't forget "Thirsty" Marco Rubio, Ted "Your world is on fire!" Cruz, and Mike "The Huckster" Huckabee: author of the best selling book "God, Guns, Grits, and Gravy" 

 

Yeah we're f*cked. 


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this seems appropriate.


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As a purely hypothetical legal question, it's really not hard at all to see how they'd achieve this type of situation. It would be akin to freezing assets. You'd get an ex parte order on the basis that some website is in breach of the law, and then you could draft in a reverse onus into the law to have the shut-down order lifted. 
 
The jurisdiction point is not necessarily fatal. The hypothetical legislation could entitle a court to order ISPs to ban access to a website (or URL) identified to host such content. Since the ISPs are in Australia, the order would be effective against them on penalty of civil contempt. 
 
It's not hard to imagine some form of this type of law that could be effective - it would just be draconian, and one would imagine a lot of moneyed interests (like the aforementioned ISPs who would have to be made subject to it) would strenuously object.


And every time it's done it has to be pushed through the legal system to get the ISP providers to enact it. It took them a year to enact the judgement on blocking several torrent and streaming sites here in the UK. Copyright law already has an inverse onus inherent in its legislation, copyright claims must be proved to be false by the accused, an inverse onus dies nothing as it already exists in the legislation. What you're claiming is an inverse onus of an inverse onus. How's that going to work?

ISP bandsalready exist, and they've failed at every turn given that people simply use proxies. While taking on the ISP providers has proved to be an abject failure, given the legal system is not going to put undue burdens on a defendant to satisfy the governments agenda, regardless of the billions ISP providers can throw at the case to keep it indefinitely locked in litigation. The judicial system and government are two entirely separate spheres. So unless, we're talking about a dictatorship you hypothetical situation falls flat on its face.

It's not hard to imagine, but science fiction does not match reality. It took years to shut down pirate bay and they had every major copyright holder and government support gunning for it, and it still failed when they simply created a new site, and another 20 sites popped up in its absence.

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I love those "I'm for small government/less government so I want to join the government" types.  At this point, I'm resigned to either protest votes for third-party candidates, or holding my nose and voting for the person who seems least likely to do things I disagree with.


To be fair, there's no better place to disassemble the government from than within.

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To be fair, there's no better place to disassemble the government from than within.

 

Well until you become a member of a political party and then you are more or less forced to tow the party line.   It's a fool's game.



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Vote for me and i will fukup the world faster than you can blink.

then we can get that cool Mad Max word we always wanted.


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Vote for me and i will fukup the world faster than you can blink.

then we can get that cool Mad Max word we always wanted.

 

haha...  I don't like the remake



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Awe ****** on. look at there little faces.