Right, because the story about the Magisters breaking into the Golden City in the Fade was purely Chantry propaganda that they used to justify their hatred of mages....oh wait.
And that's a miss understanding by onlooker who don't understand what they were looking at. Yes, the Magisters did go into the golden city but it was well already blight. The magisters did not start the blight...The reopened it to the new world. The blight was stated by the elven gods and sealed by the dread wolf.
Old gods= elven gods.
Remember, it was a elven god who got us to put to put an old god in Kieran in the first place.
No, I'm pretty sure Morrigan was the one who performed Dark Ritual. And while she's deemed by Kieran to be Flemeth's "inheritor", nothing suggests that she herself is Old God.
Also - why is it that you cherry-pick the lore? What about the Forgotten Ones?
Sera's card looks nothing like Adruil's vallaslin. The only connection people see is the bow, while it's not even the same, NOR consistent in presentation.
And some how it's lined up the same way were no other image is like that in the game?
And that's a miss understanding by onlooker who don't understand what they were looking at. Yes, the Magisters did go into the golden city but it was well already blight. The magisters did not start the blight...The reopened it to the new world. The blight was stated by the elven gods and sealed by the dread wolf.
You are awfully sure of yourself considering there is literally no proof to back up your assertions.
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Gaider also confirmed it in one of interviews if I remember correctly - he said that the Architect is the same kind of creature Corypheus is..
And yet the people who run the wiki refuse to believe it
EDIT: Nevermind, apparently they finally updated his page.
I'm definitely going to capitulate here and give it up to anyone who is expert in a field that I am not...say like graphic art. You say two dimensional bows can only have so many varieties, and I will concede.
That being said, I'm pretty good with plot devices. Dialogue and codex choices were designed to make us curious about Sera's connection to the fade, old gods, etc could be a red herring (intentionally laid out by the designers) or it could be a portent ("yet i hope they do not point to me"--paraphraise Shakespeare when Desdemonia is about to bite it).
Blower's writers are pretty consistent across the series. They had to have planned some of the information out in advance.
If you are going to hire voice-over actors and bother to write and direct them (BTW good casting on whoever you cast Bioware), the undercurrent of Cole's voices dialogue becomes more important.
The breadcrumbs that point to Sera being different (or boringly ironic) kind of hit you over the head.
I concur, the whole thing could be a giant red herring, but Bioware introduced it into dialogue, so even people like me who tend not to read the codex's have to start wondering...what is he talking about?
Did I come up with the theory? Nope, I'm not that bright, but it was heavy handed enough that even I was like...what's up with Sera...a google later...eh, yeah, I can buy into the possibility.
It's really kind of fun since the cannon is in constant motion. What is catering to a fan base? What makes a good game? How can we sell this product to everyone and make most happy?
As fans if we think we "figured" something out and Bioware is like...yeah...we planned that, but no more...they can redact what we've never seen.
It's entirely possible they don't care too much about what we think, because we do all their advertising for them.
Hey I write fanfiction...there's no money in it...and before fanficition I never wrote a word without a paycheck.
We eat it up. We love/hate it. We advertise it. We think on it, but in the end...
Who leads the story? The fans? Bioware? Or do they look to us and go...hey that's pretty good idea. We should borrow that idea from fan X overthere. I know if I were a story editor, I would.
Fans can never write what Bioware can. They write the cannon, and can make revelations in the story. We can't. We can just make our peers think.
Isn't that what makes the whole formula kinda fun?
No, I'm pretty sure Morrigan was the one who performed dark ritual. And while she's deemed by Kieran to be Flemeth's inheritor, nothing suggests that she herself is Old God.
Christ.....
Do I have the spell it out for you?
Who do you think Morrigan learn the ritual from. she flat out tells you she learnt it Flemeth. it was the entire reason Flemeth had Morrigan join the quest.
What you think it means if someone older then the tevintor beliefs and the maker knows how to put an old god in a child?
Sorry, but there is a huge elven connection to the old gods. And with use learning what a god is in dai and jaws of hakkon, it's clear the old gods are elven.
I think Sera is Sera. Despite it being a popular fan theory, there aren't any actual in game indications that Sera is anything other than an alienage elf.
Also as TheRevanchist pointed out, having Sera be an Old God would be a bit much. You've already got the Dread Wolf and Urthemiel hanging around. If Sera is now a supernatural being as well, it starts to get a little silly. It would undercut the Solas reveal.
On that note the one downside of the Solas reveal is that probably every elf companion we ever have in the series from this point on will probably have fans running wild with old god theories.
Old gods= elven gods.
Remember, it was a elven god who got us to put to put an old god in Kieran in the first place.
I don't think there's enough evidence to even assume the Old Gods == Elven Gods.
My own take is that the Old Gods pre-date the elven civilization. And seeing as the Elven Gods may or may not even be "gods", I find it hard to believe that the Old Gods and the Elven Gods are one and the same.
The only thing that makes sense to me in this Sera == Elven God is that supposedly, the ancient elves killed each other and everything went to sh*t. Seeing as Sera is annoying as hell, the only similarity I can see between her and Andruil, is that people around her wanted her dead. I know I wanted her dead.
And some how it's lined up the same way were no other image is like that in the game?
They're NOT lined up and you have to be blind to not see that.
Here, let me use magic of Photoshop to make it clear:
You are awfully sure of yourself considering there is literally no proof to back up your assertions.
...except for :
Elven lore
the land past the elviouns that are in the fade.(which we walked into in dai.)
the fact the elves of old made these pockets in the fade.
all the lore about the abyss and how it can make th elven gods go made.
and the the sealing of the forgotten ones and elven gods.
And the fact the blight was found to be older then the tevinter empire being that we found it in a dwarven thag older then human civilization.
Sorry but we have a lot of proof.
Christ.....
Do I have the spell it out for you?
Who do you think Morrigan learn the ritual from. she flat out tells you she learnt it Flemeth. it was the entire reason Flemeth had Morrigan join the quest.
What you think it means if someone older then the tevintor beliefs and the maker knows how to put an old god in a child?
Sorry, but there is a huge elven connection to the old gods. And with use learning what a god is in dai and jaws of hakkon, it's clear the old gods are elven.
What Flemeth taught Morrigan would mean nothing if Morrigan didn't perform ritual herself. End of story.
I don't think there's enough evidence to even assume the Old Gods == Elven Gods.
My own take is that the Old Gods pre-date the elven civilization. And seeing as the Elven Gods may or may not even be "gods", I find it hard to believe that the Old Gods and the Elven Gods are one and the same.
yes there is.
the land past the elviouns that are in the fade.(which we walked into in dai.)
the fact the elves of old made these pockets in the fade.
all the lore about the abyss and how it can make th elven gods go made.
and the the sealing of the forgotten ones and elven gods.
And the fact the blight was found to be older then the tevinter empire being that we found it in a dwarven thag older then human civilization.
And how can a being the predate the belief of the maker know how to deal with an old god and then absobe it into there being?
They're NOT lined up and you have to be blind to not see that.
Here, let me use magic of Photoshop to make it clear:
Ok , there not 1:1. it still extremely similar with no other image in the lore like it.
I'm definitely going to capitulate here and give it up to anyone who is expert in a field that I am not...say like graphic art. You say two dimensional bows can only have so many varieties, and I will concede.
That being said, I'm pretty good with plot devices. Dialogue and codex choices were designed to make us curious about Sera's connection to the fade, old gods, etc could be a red herring (intentionally laid out by the designers) or it could be a portent ("yet i hope they do not point to me"--paraphraise Shakespeare when Desdemonia is about to bite it).
The only thing that it proves is what I mentioned before - that Sera is an elf, and no matter how against she is to being 'elfy' she can't entirely cut away herself from her elven heritage.
I'm also pretty good with plot devices, considering I have experience in constructing those myself - but I just don't see things the way you do. I will say this for the 3rd time but it bears repeating - finding clues is one thing, reading too much into stuff is another.
Also - while finding clues is fun, over-complicating things is not, be it from writers or fan perspectives. Didn't people learn that through LOST?
Ok , there not 1:1. it still extremely similar with no other image in the lore like it.
Now you're just grasping at straws.
Right, because the story about the Magisters breaking into the Golden City in the Fade was purely Chantry propaganda that they used to justify their hatred of mages....oh wait.
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Did you miss Corypheus or something? He's living proof that the Chantry wasn't wrong in that seven magisters breached the Fade to reach what they believed was a Golden City.
What Flemeth taught Morrigan would mean nothing if Morrigan didn't perform ritual herself. End of story.
You're look at the wrong detail. The important detail is no Morrigan performing it or not. It's that Flemeth knew about the ritual and taught it to Morrigan. The fact the Flemeth, who is Mythat a god older then the concept of the maker and tevintor, knows how to manipulate an old god into a child. How can the old gods not be related to the elven god when an elven god know how to manipulate them?
The same way being able to summon a demon doesn't make the summoner a demon.
Oh, man. Sera as an elven god. You people are killing me with the zero evidence crackpot theories.
This is how they make me feel.
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Did you miss Corypheus or something? He's living proof that the Chantry wasn't wrong in that seven magisters breached the Fade to reach what they believed was a Golden City.
That's exactly what I meant. i was refuting him with sarcasm lol.
The same way being able to summon a demon doesn't make the summoner a demon.
*face palm...
A summoner does not take said demon put them in there being and remain unchanged... Add the point was about knowledge. Mythal had to of known, met and manipulated them before for her to be able to do it twice to the same god in the series. That would mean she had to know the so called "old gods" before the fall the the ancent elves.
Sandal's an Elven God, Sera is an Elven God, ancient Dragons are Elven Gods, the Black City is a reflection of Arlathan, Bartrand's Folly is proof the Blight pre-dates Tevinter even though we have no proof Red Lyrium was there before the First Blight, after all Kal Sharok's dwarves are Tained by Blight and thats how they survived. That can't be a coincidence. Kal Sharok must be in on it!
Oh, man. Sera as an elven god. You people are killing me with the zero evidence crackpot theories.
And with the crazy ass ships depicting randomly picked characters as gay/bisexual/whatever just because of one cutscene.
I have no vested interest in this theory - as Sera and/or the elven gods don't interest me.
But the images do have similarities. Doesn't make it true - but discounting it in the name of Skepticism TM isn't the highest sign of thinking either in my opinion.
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