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Mabari Owns High Dragon The 2nd

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Before I decide what I really want to do with my DW Rogue, I wanted to ask for some advice on my ideas...

 

1. Basically, I want to make him reliant on Stealth Crits for high damage. This means insane Dexterity. Is this a viable way to go for reliable, heavy damage output?

 

2. I really want to farm Fade-Touched items for a few key abilities.including: 75% Stealth Speed Increase (Lurker Scales), +50 Stamina on Kill (Great Bear Hide), and a few others. Is the Stealth Speed really worth the effort? The Stamina restoration is necessary right now unless I decide to replace my dex amulet with a stam amulet.

 

3. Concering Armor Penetration, Attack, and Flanking bonuses... Which is the best to focus on all-around? I'm leaning towards attack and flanking with flanking having a slight lead. However, I try to ALWAYS use abilities when I can so I don't auto-attack very often unless necessary, meaning enemies will turn to face me (100% to ignore me when I flank them is broken apparently).



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Don't just go Dex. Work on getting your Crit Chance up as well. That means lots of Great Bear skins in leather slots in crafted armor.

 

2. I really want to farm Fade-Touched items for a few key abilities.including: 75% Stealth Speed Increase (Lurker Scales), +50 Stamina on Kill (Great Bear Hide), and a few others. Is the Stealth Speed really worth the effort? The Stamina restoration is necessary right now unless I decide to replace my dex amulet with a stam amulet.


If you want damage output, go for Hidden Blades. FT velvets, Ring or Plush Fustian. Stamina on kill isn't too bad either, but the slot is better spent on Hidden Blades.
 

3. Concering Armor Penetration, Attack, and Flanking bonuses... Which is the best to focus on all-around? I'm leaning towards attack and flanking with flanking having a slight lead. However, I try to ALWAYS use abilities when I can so I don't auto-attack very often unless necessary, meaning enemies will turn to face me (100% to ignore me when I flank them is broken apparently).


GhoXen's crafting priority might help:

http://forum.bioware...-and-mechanics/
 
Crafting Priority:
3% Flanking Dmg > 1.75% Attack > 3% Armor Pen > 1.75% Crit Chance = 1.75 Dexterity (rogue) >1.75 Willpower > 1.75 Magic (mage) = 1.75Strength (warrior) > > 1.75 Cunning > 3% Crit Dmg > 3% Barrier Dmg > 3% Guard Dmg
 
Flanking Damage is underrated. As a stealthy DW, you should be flanking most enemies and should be able to make the most of that flanking damage bonus.


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If you take Assassin as your specialization you can more or less forget about buffing Crit Chance and go for damage bonuses, as you will have I Was Never Here and Knife In the Shadows.

 

I also agree that Hidden Blades is a good fade touched bonus to go with.  I used 4 and 3 hits on the first daggers I made, then finally got the 5 hit kind and made a new dagger.  For Armor I just used obsidian for 3 guard on hit, but that was partly because I never seemed to pick up anything else that I thought would be better for my rogue.


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Flanking Damage is underrated. As a stealthy DW, you should be flanking most enemies and should be able to make the most of that flanking damage bonus.

 

+1 to this. Yout tank should be taunting everyone so you should always be attacking from the flanks.



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You'll want enough armor penetration to get close to 100% with passives and gear, but not more. Personally I have Ambush and the lower right passive in assassin, so that gives me a natural 75% penetration already, plus the ring makes 95%.

 

Flanking damage bonus is a decent stat (assuming you can manage to stay behind bosses always), armor penetration (if you still need some after passives), with critical damage probably being the "best" stat in my opinion.

 

Crit chance probably isn't that important since you get a lot of crits automatically as an assassin.

I guess if you're a tempest crit chance is more important.

 

As for fade touched mats... it depends on what you find. Personally I never "farmed" for that stuff and only used what I found while collecting resources normally, it's not an MMO and the game is easy enough on anything but nightmare.

In my case 5 hidden blades (nice extra damage), 5 guard on hit (survivability) and -10% stamina for abilities (since I didn't have anything better for my second dagger).


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Mabari Owns High Dragon The 2nd

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Thanks for the replies! I forgot to mention I'm level 21 and an Assassin already. Crafting priorities for flanking sounds good. The problem is I enter stealth and my allies don't attack the enemies until after I do... Which causes me to be targeted.

Also, the only reason I want those abilities is just to make a "final" set of armor and weapons. Not because I need the abilities lol.

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Thanks for the replies! I forgot to mention I'm level 21 and an Assassin already. Crafting priorities for flanking sounds good. The problem is I enter stealth and my allies don't attack the enemies until after I do... Which causes me to be targeted.

Also, the only reason I want those abilities is just to make a "final" set of armor and weapons. Not because I need the abilities lol.

I see. I thought you were starting from scratch.

 

If your allies aren't leading the charge, fix their AI. None of them should follow you. You can make your tank follow self, make the supporters defend tank or you, start the battle by controlling your tank and sending them to attack some enemy, then switch back to your rogue and off you go.



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You may also just consider hitting Tactical Cam right at the start of the fight, so you give attack orders, then wait a second to engage.

 

I think the main thing is just the AI's range threshold for engaging the enemies is lower than you might expect, so when you stealth and they stop they are too far away sometimes.