It has to, read better.
You gave an advice and I simply gave an opposite one.
Simply, don't waste your time in Routine/Threat. Struggle in Perillious, even being dead all the time, to get more exp/gold.
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I'm guessing english is not your first language, so I'm trying to suss out what you are saying as best as I can. What you are suggesting sounds like leeching, and you will spend more time getting kicked than making any real progress.
What you are suggesting sounds like leeching, and you will spend more time getting kicked than making any real progress.
Maybe on PS4. On PC, barely happened to me so far.
(And yep, English is actually my third language, but you got the point).
Maybe on PS4. On PC, barely happened to me so far.
(And yep, English is actually my third language, but you got the point).
It has to be fun playing with you 
But then,people can get those much needed killstreaks,so it is win-win situation.
Well the new DLC is great - the new map is great and love to finally have dragons. But it's already become pretty clear to me after about 10+ threatening dragon runs (and most of those I put up the call) that they reward diddly-squat (not even any notable gold to cover the cost of chests/mats). What Bioware seem to be saying is, unless you're doing Perilous then there really isn't any point at all at doing dragon runs - just not worth the mats and the time for the outcome.
I gotta say this is disappointing as I mainly PUG and I find Perilous, even though I am maxed on out gear, can be a real pain with PUGs. I'm stuck in the rut like many other 'threatening' players, where I'd probably benefit most from the new gear to progress more confidently into Perilous. We don't all have 100+ promotions and been exploiting bugs the last few months to become OP. Seems it is the latter playerbase that gets to show off the new shinies.
Dunno what the answer is - I'm not necessarily wanting rewards on a plate, but I'm sensing the drop rate for ubers on threatening (if they even can drop?) is so unrealistic that it would almost be pointless. 
Grinding is fine, but not when there is a serious mat cost involved with every attempt.
Is there meant to be other new loot in the game, via chests? I've heard mention of flame inquisition weapons. I've spent over 40k gold on chests and got nothing, so gave up there too. Maybe patched in later. But, you know, would actually be good to know all this stuff Bioware :-/
Well the new DLC is great - the new map is great and love to finally have dragons. But it's already become pretty clear to me after about 10+ threatening dragon runs (and most of those I put up the call) that they reward diddly-squat. What Bioware seem to be saying is, unless you're doing Perilous then there really isn't any point at all at doing dragon runs - just not worth the mats and the time for the outcome.
I gotta say this is disappointing as I mainly PUG and I find Perilous, even though I am maxed on out gear, can be a real pain with PUGs. I'm stuck in the rut like many other 'threatening' players, where I'd probably benefit most from the new gear to progress into Perilous. We don't all have 100+ promotions and been exploiting bugs the last few months to become OP. Seems it is the latter playerbase that gets to show off the new shinies.
Dunno what the answer is - I'm not necessarily wanting rewards on a plate, but I'm sensing the drop rate for ubers on threatening (if they even can drop?) is so unrealistic that it would almost be pointless.
Is there meant to be other new loot in the game, via chests? I've heard mention of flame inquisition weapons. I've spent over 40k gold on chests and got nothing, so gave up there too. Maybe patched in later. But, you know, would actually be good to know all this stuff Bioware :-/
My very first dragon run (didn't know what the heck i was doing either, luckily had a good group that carried me lol), and on perilous to boot (on my 18 duelist), and i had the purple dragon dagger drop, i couldn't believe it, i've not had very good luck with the rng the entire time i've played this game. And previously i'd also not had good luck with dagger drops (nicest daggers i have are 2 of the Walking Death ? daggers i think they're called). This dragon dagger is like 80 more dps than those. Woot!
I just realized that I've actually been getting no drops from dragons.
So after hours of dragoning I haven't been getting gold or loot.
I first assumed that the equipment i got after you leave the instance was dragon loot, however then people were saying what colour item they got even before we went to that screen.... I thought,,,, Mine doesn't show me cards or gold as soon you kill the dragon... Turns out they were just chest drops from the treasure rooms.
So basically 100s of mats wasted.
I just realized that I've actually been getting no drops from dragons.
So after hours of dragoning I haven't been getting gold or loot.
I first assumed that the equipment i got after you leave the instance was dragon loot, however then people were saying what colour item they got even before we went to that screen.... I thought,,,, Mine doesn't show me cards or gold as soon you kill the dragon... Turns out they were just chest drops from the treasure rooms.
So basically 100s of mats wasted.
Yeah, join the club. It's happening to a lot of people.
I get loot about 50 percent of the time. Nothing worthwhile yet.
Yeah, join the club. It's happening to a lot of people.
I get loot about 50 percent of the time. Nothing worthwhile yet.
Yeah,I am in the same boat.Not that I played a lot of times,though (time is so precious these days)
I just realized that I've actually been getting no drops from dragons.
So after hours of dragoning I haven't been getting gold or loot.
I first assumed that the equipment i got after you leave the instance was dragon loot, however then people were saying what colour item they got even before we went to that screen.... I thought,,,, Mine doesn't show me cards or gold as soon you kill the dragon... Turns out they were just chest drops from the treasure rooms.
So basically 100s of mats wasted.
hm, so the Bow of the Dragon I got (which showed together with a highland dirk in the post-end-screen) wasn't actual Dragon-Loot
so:
Hi, I'm Dekibra and I don't get any Dragon loot either
Looting dragon items imo is less time intensive than gathering gold and hoping for the equivalent from a chest. This isn't a bad thing in itself imo as it'll relieve the stress of RNG for newer players.
I think the weapon wall was something that was the most discouraging thing about the MP in the past; often you'd see many players sporting the best weapons and relatively new players end up playing with one of these (the damage disparately is just too huge) :
(with lesser fire rune socketed)
New players wont be able to loot dragons, infact they're more likely to get pissed off because they can't craft any armours/upgrades for their characters because it's all being spent on Dragon fights.
The Mat Paywall is too steep on the easier difficulties if they aren't getting anything decent in return.
Don't get me wrong, I love the new map but this is the wrong way to go about it when you are servicing a community of new and old.
I still have plenty of mats, but to find out I've just been wasting them due to a bug has f'd me off..
....unless you're doing Perilous then there really isn't any point at all at doing dragon run...
What happened to playing games just for fun?
Today's carrot chasing gaming makes me
New players wont be able to loot dragons, infact they're more likely to get pissed off because they can't craft any armours/upgrades for their characters because it's all being spent on Dragon fights.
The Mat Paywall is too steep on the easier difficulties if they aren't getting anything decent in return.
Don't get me wrong, I love the new map but this is the wrong way to go about it when you are servicing a community of new and old.
I still have plenty of mats, but to find out I've just been wasting them due to a bug has f'd me off..
What bug? 
Not getting a loot?
Yeah I don't get loot most of the time either. I just figured it was RNG. It didn't think it was an actual bug
I just realized that I've actually been getting no drops from dragons.
So after hours of dragoning I haven't been getting gold or loot.
I first assumed that the equipment i got after you leave the instance was dragon loot, however then people were saying what colour item they got even before we went to that screen.... I thought,,,, Mine doesn't show me cards or gold as soon you kill the dragon... Turns out they were just chest drops from the treasure rooms.
So basically 100s of mats wasted.
Something's wrong if you're seeing neither after killing the dragon. You get the event gold after it dies regardless of whether or not you get a drop, same as you would when you clear a normal wave 5, then after that comes the item drop, just before you go to the cutscene and results.
New players wont be able to loot dragons, infact they're more likely to get pissed off because they can't craft any armours/upgrades for their characters because it's all being spent on Dragon fights.
...
Only played around a dozen pug perilous matches but helped carry half of the matches to complete it. Basically soloed one of the matches with my AW for one of the matches. Enter enough perilous matches and you'll see enough veterans to help the group out.
New players wont be able to loot dragons, infact they're more likely to get pissed off because they can't craft any armours/upgrades for their characters because it's all being spent on Dragon fights.
The Mat Paywall is too steep on the easier difficulties if they aren't getting anything decent in return.
Don't get me wrong, I love the new map but this is the wrong way to go about it when you are servicing a community of new and old.
I still have plenty of mats, but to find out I've just been wasting them due to a bug has f'd me off..
Yup. There is no reason to use the dragon call unless you are in perilous. The low possibility of reward doesn't justify the mat cost in routine/threating. I guess they could scale the mat cost down for lower difficulties.
Yup. There is no reason to use the dragon call unless you are in perilous. The low possibility of reward doesn't justify the mat cost in routine/threating. I guess they could scale the mat cost down for lower difficulties.
There's no reason to use the dragon's call in perilous right now either, at least not for me and several other people.
We aren't getting loot for the kills.
Something's wrong if you're seeing neither after killing the dragon. You get the event gold after it dies regardless of whether or not you get a drop, same as you would when you clear a normal wave 5, then after that comes the item drop, just before you go to the cutscene and results.
Yep... I'm getting no loot or gold and so is a lot of people on PS4 and PS3 it seems.... Probably something server side.
There's no reason to use the dragon's call in perilous right now either, at least not for me and several other people.
We aren't getting loot for the kills.
Yep, currently we've just been pissing away hard earned mats for nothing,
hm, so the Bow of the Dragon I got (which showed together with a highland dirk in the post-end-screen) wasn't actual Dragon-Loot
so:
Hi, I'm Dekibra and I don't get any Dragon loot either
Dragon loot is shown to you at the end screen just like treasure room loot. So don't be silly, Bow of the Dragon is an item that comes from the dragon, so you definitely did get dragon loot.
I got nothing off all my runs yesterday, got a purple out of a chest but it was one of those stupid level 10 2handers that I have picked up 20 times in the last few days
hm, so the Bow of the Dragon I got (which showed together with a highland dirk in the post-end-screen) wasn't actual Dragon-Loot
so:
Hi, I'm Dekibra and I don't get any Dragon loot either
Bow of the dragon is Dragon loot. There's multiple versions
My very first dragon run (didn't know what the heck i was doing either, luckily had a good group that carried me lol), and on perilous to boot (on my 18 duelist), and i had the purple dragon dagger drop, i couldn't believe it, i've not had very good luck with the rng the entire time i've played this game.
More independent reports of Dragon Loot. Keep in mind if you're not lucky yet, that's only a matter of time. You can complain if you want, but it doesn't change the fact that the loot is dropping, and can drop for people everywhere.
Yes end game players will often get loot before most people do, because they play more. Personaly I've gone 10-20 games with nothing, and then get 2 pieces in the next 5 games. It is chance and a grind, but the chance is much much much better than opening chests.
So call out your waaaaambulence if you want about QQ'ing over no drops, but there's no denying they happen. Whether it really is the 1/10 chance stated, I don't know, but definitely better than 1/10000 chance for sulevin's blade from the store chest.
I think Bioware really messed up with this new loot mechanic. As others have said, playing the dragon on routine/threatening is pointless (will not get anything good out of it). Opening chests is pointless (the chances of these items dropping is ridiculously low). The only way to farm these items is to have a dedicated team running this map over and over and over.. and then over and over again.
You can't really pug it and expect to get these items anytime soon (too few players). Basically, you need friends or else you're screwed.
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