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Setting of ME4: Rachni Wars, First Contact War... and other ME games suggestions


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Hello everyone,

 

I've been very excited about the premise of a new ME game, as everyone else. I've seen many concerns about when should it take place as another action-RPG game. I got some ideas I haven't seen posted much, so I wanted to share them here.

 

First, in my opinion no ME games should take place after the events of ME3, as it would require to set one of the endings as canon, or even worse, make a totally different experience depending on your ME3 choice! However, there are endless possibilities on times before ME3. These are my favourites (again, for an action-RPG like the current trilogy). Sure, you know how their main events end, but there are many secondary/top secret events that happen along them.

 

1.- Rachni Wars: it allows to expand a lot on the Rachni faction, as well as having no human characters. The player could be from one of the Citadel Council species -Turian, Salarian or Asari- and fight against the Rachni as either a regular soldier, a fleet commander, an Spectre... The player could even be a Krogan soldier, eager to fight, but eventually being genophage'd. This could allow some serious emotional conflicts: the reveal of having been a tool, the excessively war-like attitude of your warlords (willing to rebel against your allies), the doom of the genophage. Even Wrex could appear, or at least as a newborn baby (I'm not sure about the timeline here, but Wrex was already a millenium old in ME1 if I recall correctly).

 

2.- First Contact War: allows the player to be a human, and experience times quite close to those of ME1. The aesthetics could be similar to those ME1, which could be a very welcome service to the original ME1 fans. Also, the end of the war is a quite peaceful one, which could set a more soft mood after all those years of war.

 

3.- Between ME1 and ME2 (or since the entry of humans in Citadel space): there are many possible stories that were happening while Shepard was investigating Saren, and even before he was assigned to the Normandy SR1. Spectres from the Council species solving things across the galaxy, Justicars fighting injustice, mercenary gangs messing around... Why not take one of these still-only-hinted subuniverses and make a story out of it? We could even play as Zaeed and experience his pre-Shepard adventures from his point of view.

 

4.- Prothean Cycle: this one has also been proposed. It could be quite interesting to know more about their empire, the other species that existed with them, their own war against the Reapers... We could even see some primitives! (Salarians licking their own eyes...)

 

Those are my favourite ideas for an action-RPG. However, there are many types of games that could look very interesting if set on the ME universe. For example, I would love to see an RTS (or a turn-based one) focused on the spacefleet combat of ME. There are a lot of entries about spaceships on the Codex which explain how they work and fight. Wouldn't it be awesome to command one of the Alliance fleets against the Turian ones or the Batarian's?

 

I hope this proves useful for the devs to take ideas from. Please share your opinions!



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Wow! Didn't know about that video, thank you!

 

I'm glad to hear there will be a lot of exploration, it is one of my most favourite things to do in the whole trilogy, specially on ME1. I'm eager to drive the Mako again (yes, I did enjoy it on ME1). Also, I really liked that prototype render when a full day passed on a planet. Now I would love to be able to land on some extreme planets, such as a Venus-like one.

 

About the setting, well, I'm intrigued on what did they come up with. Can't wait to see more details on that!



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Wow! Didn't know about that video, thank you!

 

I'm glad to hear there will be a lot of exploration, it is one of my most favourite things to do in the whole trilogy, specially on ME1. I'm eager to drive the Mako again (yes, I did enjoy it on ME1). Also, I really liked that prototype render when a full day passed on a planet. Now I would love to be able to land on some extreme planets, such as a Venus-like one.

 

About the setting, well, I'm intrigued on what did they come up with. Can't wait to see more details on that!

 

I just fear it will end up like DA:I with 90% side quest (mainly dumb fetch quests) and only 10% story which is written poorly with very little re-playability options.

 

And I hope the Mako moves faster than the mounts on DA:I.

 

And as they are taking away the cannon on the MAko I am worried they will limit the uses of the MAko



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I say its ok to go forth into the future ok not to see Tali or any others, no one lives forever. But!!!! your decisions as Shepard should matter, because we killed Reapers! Didn't they try to make everyone extinct? and we survived. And its the future, all your effort has no influence means basically its MASS EFFECT 1 (reboot) to me.


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I say its ok to go forth into the future ok not to see Tali or any others, no one lives forever. But!!!! your decisions as Shepard should matter, because we killed Reapers! Didn't they try to make everyone extinct? and we survived. And its the future, all your effort has no influence means basically its MASS EFFECT 1 (reboot) to me.

 

An excuse for another trilogy perhaps?



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To be honest, I'm still a bit torn regarding the idea of a ME4 itself. No matter how good it will be, it is very likely it will feel like wasted potential to me. If we are going to "another galaxy" or whatever, where we are basically separated from anything that made Mass Effect so great for me, which is characters (and I actually got attached to my Shepard after 3 games, no matter how much they tried to change her in 3, so it will feel kinda wrong playing as a new protagonist), then their efforts might be better spent on a new IP, and let the ME franchise end at the third game, regardless of it's faults.


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To be honest, I'm still a bit torn regarding the idea of a ME4 itself. No matter how good it will be, it is very likely it will feel like wasted potential to me. If we are going to "another galaxy" or whatever, where we are basically separated from anything that made Mass Effect so great for me, which is characters (and I actually got attached to my Shepard after 3 games, no matter how much they tried to change her in 3, so it will feel kinda wrong playing as a new protagonist), then their efforts might be better spent on a new IP, and let the ME franchise end at the third game, regardless of it's faults.

 

Tbh Cathy I think they are gonna rename the game completely and even though most will then see it as a "Spin off" BioWare will still try and pass it off as Mass Effect by loosely connecting it to the MEU.

 

Two things though which I see as a problem.

 

1. Timeline

 

It cannot and will not be set after ME3 as that would mean one of the 3 needs to become canon regarding the ending and upsetting two thirds of the gaming community after the ME3 mess up doesn't seem at all wise.

 

2. Reapers

 

Reapers harvest civilizations so simply being in another galaxy (Andromeda) does not excuse this or keep you safe which leads me too...

 

A) IF the main antagonist is again Reapers that would be redundant as that is Shepard's job to defeat them so it would be a waste of time fighting them and feel even more pointless as you with this new character cannot even ultimately defeat them.

 

B) IF the antagonist isn't something of Reaper level threat again it will feel redundant for a ME game as we are used to the galaxy being put at risk and fighting to save it while uniting all races alongside some awesome companions, so to give us any less you would not be giving us a ME game hence I think the title will change completely.



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Tbh Cathy I think they are gonna rename the game completely and even though most will then see it as a "Spin off" BioWare will still try and pass it off as Mass Effect by loosely connecting it to the MEU.

 

Two things though which I see as a problem.

 

1. Timeline

 

It cannot and will not be set after ME3 as that would mean one of the 3 needs to become canon regarding the ending and upsetting two thirds of the gaming community after the ME3 mess up doesn't seem at all wise.

 

2. Reapers

 

Reapers harvest civilizations so simply being in another galaxy (Andromeda) does not excuse this or keep you safe which leads me too...

 

A) IF the main antagonist is again Reapers that would be redundant as that is Shepard's job to defeat them so it would be a waste of time fighting them and feel even more pointless as you with this new character cannot even ultimately defeat them.

 

B) IF the antagonist isn't something of Reaper level threat again it will feel redundant for a ME game as we are used to the galaxy being put at risk and fighting to save it while uniting all races alongside some awesome companions, so to give us any less you would not be giving us a ME game hence I think the title will change completely.

1. If i understand correctly from that "ME4 Leak" it will be set in another galaxy "separated through time and space from Shepard's actions". That means they can ignore most of shepard's decision, but it does have some issues.  From what i got, we will play a character that left the Milky Way along with some companions (krogan companion has been "confirmed' apparently) to colonize Andromeda. Do these guys leave before the trilogy (While it would be easier to ignore our decisions and the state of the galaxy this way, it also seem a bit early- most races barely managed to get a grip of colonizing this galaxy and we are already moving to another one?), or after ?(Which raises the following questions: Is everyone half organic-half synthetic, or is everyone BFFs with the reapers now, or will they mention the destruction of the reapers? And how do they have the resources for such a project, when the galaxy was pretty heavily "damaged", even with high EMS?)

 

2 As for the antagonist, I guess I wouldn't mind a story with lower stakes, like they did in DA2 :)



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1. If i understand correctly from that "ME4 Leak" it will be set in another galaxy "separated through time and space from Shepard's actions". That means they can ignore most of shepard's decision, but it does have some issues.  From what i got, we will play a character that left the Milky Way along with some companions (krogan companion has been "confirmed' apparently) to colonize Andromeda. Do these guys leave before the trilogy (While it would be easier to ignore our decisions and the state of the galaxy this way, it also seem a bit early- most races barely managed to get a grip of colonizing this galaxy and we are already moving to another one?), or after ?(Which raises the following questions: Is everyone half organic-half synthetic, or is everyone BFFs with the reapers now, or will they mention the destruction of the reapers? And how do they have the resources for such a project, when the galaxy was pretty heavily "damaged", even with high EMS?)

 

2 As for the antagonist, I guess I wouldn't mind a story with lower stakes, like they did in DA2 :)

 

1. Exactly. The consistency is seriously at risk here. I think the simple "We are in another galaxy so rules don't apply" tactic is weak as hell and makes no sense as so long there is Mass relay then Reapers where there and as far as we know Reapers were everywhere as it was never stated that they were active only in the milky way as they resided in "Dark space" which is between the galaxies, meaning no matter what galaxy you are in Reapers had access to it. And setting off before is next to impossible as Human's had only been recognized by the council for the last 20 years or so and there best ship "The Normandy" comes from joint Turian and Human design. They could not surpass this on their own and as for help from Krogan, they were only known for fighting and breeding quick. Technology was never their forte lol.

 

2.I guess if the story is written well it could last for one game but knowing BioWare they are likely to try do a continuation after it. I just fear with the focus on "exploration" which is the same thing they said about DA:I, that we will receive a repeat performance of DA:I but in space which will suck tbh.


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1. Exactly. The consistency is seriously at risk here. I think the simple "We are in another galaxy so rules don't apply" tactic is weak as hell and makes no sense as so long there is Mass relay then Reapers where there and as far as we know Reapers were everywhere as it was never stated that they were active only in the milky way as they resided in "Dark space" which is between the galaxies, meaning no matter what galaxy you are in Reapers had access to it. And setting off before is next to impossible as Human's had only been recognized by the council for the last 20 years or so and there best ship "The Normandy" comes from joint Turian and Human design. They could not surpass this on their own and as for help from Krogan, they were only known for fighting and breeding quick. Technology was never their forte lol.

 

2.I guess if the story is written well it could last for one game but knowing BioWare they are likely to try do a continuation after it. I just fear with the focus on "exploration" which is the same thing they said about DA:I, that we will receive a repeat performance of DA:I but in space which will suck tbh.

Yeah. Like I said: their efforts would have been better spent on a new IP. What's done is done, for better or for worse. At this point they'll just make my nostalgia resurface.



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Yeah. Like I said: their efforts would have been better spent on a new IP. What's done is done, for better or for worse. At this point they'll just make my nostalgia resurface.

 

Agreed a new IP would have been better done than something that could mess with an already established franchise or potentially upset two thirds of the fans.

 

A side story of the normandy crew while Shepard was dead and undergoing the Lazarus project for two years would have been a better idea.

 

Garrus with his merc crew going up against the local thugs and crime bosses.

Tali traveling her Quarian team going up against the Geth and doing missions gatering intel and research.

Wrex battling to become leader of Tuchanka

Kaidan/Ashley doing secret Alliance missions.

 

The game could have been broken up switching from each character's storyline covering events they did.