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[andy6915]

The badassery thing is partly what draws my city elf to Zevran every time. She likes a husband who is actually a really competent fighter like herself, and one who somewhat shared her fighting style. She doesn't have to worry about his throat getting easily slit if she ends up in a situation where she needs rescued (like Fort Drakon if you're captured at Howe's home). Best part of all is that he's the same way, his favorite kind of lover is the kind that has impressive fighting ability. And him being an elf means having an elven child is actually possible. With parents like that, I pity any poor bastard who tries starting a fight with any kid they make.

[MisterJB]

You are clearly applying a double standard that is coloured by your bised view.

 

Eleanor never tells her daugther to not be a warrior but simply that she is not at her prettiest when she just finished a melee (which is probably true and applies equally to a man) and that it wasn't her battle prowess that enamored Bryce and you claim that she has stopped fighting alltogether, that she pretended to be weak (which has no basis whatsoever, especially considering WoT 2 claims she and Bryce destroyed over a dozen of Orlesian warships together) to win Bryce and wants her daughter to be weak despite the fact she never even suggests such,

 

On the other hand, we have no idea what Adaia did to make Cyrion fall in love with her (as far as we know, it was the softer arts as well) but you automatically assume it was because she was a fighter. And worse, we actually have Cyrion asking the City Elf to not reveal their training; which is more than Eleanor did; but you apply a completely different reasoning than you did to the Couslands.

[springacres]

Eleanor never tells her daugther to not be a warrior but simply that she is not at her prettiest when she just finished a melee (which is probably true and applies equally to a man) and that it wasn't her battle prowess that enamored Bryce and you claim that she has stopped fighting alltogether, that she pretended to be weak (which has no basis whatsoever, especially considering WoT 2 claims she and Bryce destroyed over a dozen of Orlesian warships together) to win Bryce and wants her daughter to be weak despite the fact she never even suggests such,

I haven't read WoT2 yet (don't even have the first volume TBH) but I have to agree with MisterJB here.  I also have no information on how Adaia won Cyrion's heart beyond what happens in the City Elf Origin.

 

However, I definitely agree that Adaia was badass.  Human nobles are allowed to wield swords, bows, and daggers.  City elves?  Not so much.  Teaching your son/daughter how to fight with weapons your race isn't even supposed to have... now THAT'S badass.

[MisterJB]

 

It would have made for perfect sense for Adaia to be a companion in "Leliana's Song". She is already there and she has the skills. It would have been more memorable than that warrior whose name I can't recall.

The only problem would have been her class.

[andy6915]

 

 

It would have made for perfect sense for Adaia to be a companion in "Leliana's Song". She is already there and she has the skills. It would have been more memorable than that warrior whose name I can't recall.

The only problem would have been her class.

 

 

I made a city elf that actually was supposed to look like her Leliana's Song look. I personally think they made her look really bad with the makeup choice, but I still made her look good. It was also the first time I ever made a dark skinned elf. All in all, I really liked how my attempt make a family resemblance turned out. I probably should have tried to make her look a little more like her father too, but I guess it is constantly stated how you take more after your mother than your father.

[MouseHopper]

It seems that Elinor Cousland was still pretty badass, even if she did give some of it up temporarily on behalf of her husband.  When it came push cames to shove down at the end she was right there sword in hand, and gave it everything she had.  I admired her tremendously.  However, I agree with the OP hands down that Adaia Tabris must have been the most badass mom simply based on the lack of available weaponry and supplies.  She still managed to battle and teach her daughter some major skills and abilities.  Sounds like she had a whole lot of heart.  We have to assume that both of these women were creatures of their environment and times.  I am able to forgive Ms. Cousland for her remarks as a sign of the times and society in which she lived.  Ms Tabris lived in a completely different society and life style,  In my opinion hers was considerably more realistic.

[Kynare]

Welcome to DA politics. Eleanor was the daughter of a bann. She was expected to hold up her responsibility as nobility, and that's exactly what she did. Warden Cousland was also expected to do the same, hence the constant suggestions towards Howe's children. They're both strong, just in different ways.

[Melca36]

This is ridiculous. Why does there have to be such competition? They can be both badass. Or do you hate everything human you can't deal with that?

[Illegitimus]

Let's bear in mind that Elinor and Adaia were both doing their jobs.  Elinor wasn't retiring to do embroidery when she put down her blade. She was becoming the second in command of the largest fiefdom in Ferelden, and played an important enough role there that she was going on vacation when her second child was placed in charge just to avoid undermining the kids authority just by being there.  Adaia was continuing her life of crime because she was married to a somewhat elderly city elf who nobody was going to hire to unload cargo on the docks.  They were both doing what they needed to do to support their families.  Their families just had rather different needs.