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[Ariella]

I'm posting this here because it seems the most appropriate place, and I'm seriously wondering who else considered this possibility.

 

When Corypheus first reveals what he intended for the Anchor one of my first thoughts was: what happens if the only way to stop him is to beat him there? Morrigan makes a comment in a similar vein at Skyhold about being worried that Corypheus CAN become a god.

 

So, I wonder, would your Inquisitor have gone to the Black City in an attempt to stop Corypheus even knowing what happened last time someone entered there.

[Reznore57]

I'm very very curious about the Black city...but technically the place is full of Blight.

We don't know exactly what is the nature of the corruption , and it doesn't work exactly like the Blight works on Thedas.

Corypheus and the Architect (and I assume the rest of the magisters who went there) are kinda unique when it comes to darkspawn.

 

Grey wardens might be able to survive but since Cory can mindcontrol them ...

Anyway yeah I would go , and pray the Gods of Plot Armor to protect my hero.

[Sir Froggie]

Sure. If I could make a big ass lyrium bomb and set it off in the center, thus destroying the fade forever.

*stares introspectively into the sunset* Cuz that's what Bruce Willis would do.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Sure. We did go through the Omega-4 Relay and survived with flying colors, after all...

[Delphine]

Welp, it'd probably come back to bite my Inquisitor's ass, but why the hell not? I'd have tried it in at least one playthrough, just to see how it'd be.

[Char]

Sure! Curiosity might kill the Inquisitor, but so much excitement would ensue!

[JeffZero]

Would have liked to run tests on Black City.

[Ashaantha]

In-game my Inquisitor already told Morrigan at Skyhold that she would enter the Black City if she learned how to. So, that's a yes.

[Sifr]

I'm posting this here because it seems the most appropriate place, and I'm seriously wondering who else considered this possibility.

 

When Corypheus first reveals what he intended for the Anchor one of my first thoughts was: what happens if the only way to stop him is to beat him there? Morrigan makes a comment in a similar vein at Skyhold about being worried that Corypheus CAN become a god.

 

So, I wonder, would your Inquisitor have gone to the Black City in an attempt to stop Corypheus even knowing what happened last time someone entered there.

 

Honestly, I thought that is what would happen at the end of the game and was kinda disappointed that it didn't, having the final battle take place in the Fade, as the Inquisitor attempts to stop him from reaching the Black City, really wrote itself when you think about it?

 

Imagine if that we lost our companions for the final section of the fight, leaving them behind or sending them back out of the Fade to confront Corpypheus on our own. Until it's only Corypheus and the Inquisitor standing before the outside the huge doors of the Black City and duking it out once and for all, so you really got a scale of how big the stakes were?

 

Then after standing over the broken body of Corypheus, the Inquisitor looked at the huge doors, reached out curously as if to touch them, before pulling sharply back, shaking their head and turning around and walking away?

 

For such an epic game, we needed an ending that matched it.

[FemHawke FTW]

Neither one of my first two Quizzy's would do it but I have an Inquisitor in mind that wouldn't hesitate to do so. No restrictions on attaining absolute power.

[ComedicSociopathy]

Well, yes, because you know...

 

YOLO. 

[Br3admax]

Not that it would matter. If we chose not to go, someone would just push us and we'd fall into the Fade. BioWare has a story to tell, after all. 

[ModernAcademic]

I'm posting this here because it seems the most appropriate place, and I'm seriously wondering who else considered this possibility.

 

When Corypheus first reveals what he intended for the Anchor one of my first thoughts was: what happens if the only way to stop him is to beat him there? Morrigan makes a comment in a similar vein at Skyhold about being worried that Corypheus CAN become a god.

 

So, I wonder, would your Inquisitor have gone to the Black City in an attempt to stop Corypheus even knowing what happened last time someone entered there.

 

That's what I intend to explore in my fanfic. Although the Inquisitor won't face this threat alone...she'll have the help of someone who might've found out how to become immune and even reverse the taint. 

[PapaCharlie9]

This has probably been beaten to death in other threads, like the justified atheism thread, but I don't believe the Black City, or the Golden City for that matter, are actual places. Yes, I know Cory says stuff that makes it sound like a real place, albeit empty. First, consider the source. Second, I'd be disappointed in a Maker that was quite so literal minded, when the Golden City could symbolize the Maker's grace and the Black City humanity's fall, through arrogance. Symbols are incredibly powerful and durable, whereas places, as the elves have learned to their great regret, fade with the passing of time.

[PapaCharlie9]

What do you think Cole meant then when he commented on the City remembering its fall? I was a bit surprised when he said it as I got closer to the water in the Fade.

Do you have a quote? I never take Cole to Adamant, so never heard it.

 

But I found this on the Cole dialogue wiki:

 

• Dorian: Did he actually walk into the Black City? Is that true?
• Cole: Betrayal, blurred at the edges, like a faded painting. Too long ago, so much confusion.
• Dorian: I'll... take that as a "maybe."
• Cole: There were people trying to kill me. That makes it harder.

[Ariella]

For me it was never a question of a big knock down drag out at the gates. It's more of a question of: if it really is possible, and the only way to stop Corypheus to to get there first and take the throne, even with the risk of potentially releasing something worse than the Blight. 

 

I know it would scare the crap out of me personally. Becoming that responsible for people, for the bloody universe potentially. Why would anyone want that kind of burden?

[PapaCharlie9]

Yes I heard that convo with Dorian. I thought that was interesting too.

 

I took Cole and Solas into the Fade with Varric. When you get near the City Cole says:

 

"They still remember when they were higher, before it woke up and everything fell"

Very interesting. That could be read as evidence of an actual City ... but ...

 

I also found this:

 

http://dragonage.wik...ure_in_the_Fade

 

Summary: "They" may refer to the floating rocks in the Fade.

 

Still not clear to me who or what "it" was that woke up.

[Carmen_Willow]

This has probably been beaten to death in other threads, like the justified atheism thread, but I don't believe the Black City, or the Golden City for that matter, are actual places. Yes, I know Cory says stuff that makes it sound like a real place, albeit empty. First, consider the source. Second, I'd be disappointed in a Maker that was quite so literal minded, when the Golden City could symbolize the Maker's grace and the Black City humanity's fall, through arrogance. Symbols are incredibly powerful and durable, whereas places, as the elves have learned to their great regret, fade with the passing of time.

This is a world in which magic exists, so why wouldn't the Black City be real?  However, I tend to agree with the hypothesis that the Black City is in actuality Arlathan, and that somehow it became corrupted by the taint. Oh, that's right and this is a world with the taint, and darkspawn. The Black City doesn't have to be religious. It may have become a religious symbol and legend over time, but a lot of legends have their beginnings in real events.

[Andromelek]

I think that rather than become a god Corypheus would free the Forgotten Ones (is possible that they are the ones who ever live de on the Black City/Banalhan) as for the Inquisitor, maybe Solas would try to stop Corypheus himself before to allow that from happening, Anaris was not really happy with Solas on the myth and I doubt that Geldauran can be someone that you would like to know.

[TK514]

If given my choice now, knowing what we do about Solas and the elves, I would not only go there myself, I'd take Corypheus with me and help him get settled in.

I feel certain we're going to need all the allies we can get when Solas screws everything up again.

[Ariella]

This has probably been beaten to death in other threads, like the justified atheism thread, but I don't believe the Black City, or the Golden City for that matter, are actual places. Yes, I know Cory says stuff that makes it sound like a real place, albeit empty. First, consider the source. Second, I'd be disappointed in a Maker that was quite so literal minded, when the Golden City could symbolize the Maker's grace and the Black City humanity's fall, through arrogance. Symbols are incredibly powerful and durable, whereas places, as the elves have learned to their great regret, fade with the passing of time.

 

I'm not sure how the Black City's existence is a question. The city existed before Andraste. It's a constant for anyone who enters the Fade, elf, human or Qunari. And when you enter the Fade physically, it is there. Yes, Corypheus says he's been there, but the magisters' entrance into the Fade predates the Maker cult as well. You see it when you enter the Fade physically at Adamant. Even Morrigan speaks of the fact that Corypheus might be able to gain what he seeks if he enters the city, and you cannot tell me that SHE is an Andrastian. And then there's Solas' reaction to it if you take him into the Fade. He reaches out to the city and says it's "...close enough to touch" with a great deal of longing. Considering elven legend that the gods were imprisoned in the Eternal City at the heart of the Beyond. The Chantry appropriating the City isn't any different than actions taken here in the real world. 

 

The question is not if it exists, the question is what is it really? Is it a prison? The seat of the gods or the Maker, or something else entirely.

 

And yes, the Fade can be manipulated, but the Black City is a constant to everyone. Second, when one enters the Fade physically, I doubt one would be able to manipulate it to such an extent that one could drop an entire city out of whole cloth.