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[wargamesrawsum]

Mass effect 4 if set within the constraints of Me321 Would have to take place after the war because to get to the new galaxy with krogen still alive the genophage would have to be cured.

[Guanxii]

Depends how long such a journey would take which would be entirely down to the writers now that we have completely entered the realm of science fantasy. If the Krogan are alive which appears to be the case then the genophage has been overcome either through a cure or due to biological resilience. I wouldn't be surprised if a new genophage was required to control birth rates again after even mere months of uncontrolled reproduction.

[Ajensis]

Mass effect 4 if set within the constraints of Me321 Would have to take place after the war because to get to the new galaxy with krogen still alive the genophage would have to be cured.

 

I'm not sure I follow. The genophage didn't make the krogan infertile or unable to reproduce, they just reproduce in much fewer numbers. Also, if we assume they use cryo-sleep or maybe a worm-hole shortcut thing to get to Andromeda, it's not like the krogan in ME4 have to be descendants of generations of Ark-travelling krogans. And even without cryo-sleep, krogan live for almost a millenium anyway I'm having trouble coming up with even the faintest idea of how the genophage is related to having krogans in Andromeda.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Krogan can live for nearly 2000 years. The Patriarch on Omega was a veteren of the Rachni War and Wrex was alive during the Krogan Rebellions, albeit very young. They can survive the trip if the only obstacle is time. 

[wargamesrawsum]

But it would be pointless to make a colony of krogen who bound or doomed to just die off anyway (because of reproduction rates) that wouldn't make much sense so I'm saying this would have to be after a cure or i guess before they were infected.

[wargamesrawsum]

I'm not sure I follow. The genophage didn't make the krogan infertile or unable to reproduce, they just reproduce in much fewer numbers. Also, if we assume they use cryo-sleep or maybe a worm-hole shortcut thing to get to Andromeda, it's not like the krogan in ME4 have to be descendants of generations of Ark-travelling krogans. And even without cryo-sleep, krogan live for almost a millenium anyway I'm having trouble coming up with even the faintest idea of how the genophage is related to having krogans in Andromeda.

Yes but cyro-sleep wasnt mention through the series except on ilois and eden prime so you could assume that only the protheans had the tech.

[Ajensis]

But it would be pointless to make a colony of krogen who bound or doomed to just die off anyway (because of reproduction rates) that wouldn't make much sense so I'm saying this would have to be after a cure or i guess before they were infected.

 

Then the writers simply insert some 'We persuaded clan X and Y to offer their most fertile females'. We hear that krogan clans fight over the females that have the most success in carrying children into the world alive.

 

Yes but cyro-sleep wasnt mention through the series except on ilois and eden prime so you could assume that only the protheans had the tech.

 

I think you're thinking of stasis here? You've probably walked past cryo-pods on the Normandy dozens of times, e.g. on your way to talk to Garrus in ME2. And at least one codex entry describes them as being used when you travel through a system we never see it in cutscenes, but they're clearly there in the lore and in the design of the Normandy.

[Sleeper_Tyrant]

If the Krogans are indeed making a new colony, it could mean that they're more stable and less prone to kill each other. It's stated in the trilogy that their doom is the state of mind that the genophage killed them, not the genophage per se.

And if they're cured it would be too much of a risk for the other species. I mean, 1000 babies a year per female? That would get ugly real fast.

[Ajensis]

If the Krogans are indeed making a new colony, it could mean that they're more stable and less prone to kill each other. It's stated in the trilogy that their doom is the state of mind that the genophage killed them, not the genophage per se.

And if they're cured it would be too much of a risk for the other species. I mean, 1000 babies a year per female? That would get ugly real fast.

 

Maybe the entire Pathfinder objective is to get the remaining (genophage-cured) krogan to Andromeda after the Reaper war. They don't want to be restricted in where they can colonise and the Milky Way don't want another Krogan Rebellion, so giving them an entire galaxy should keep everyone happy for at least a couple of centuries

[MegaIllusiveMan]

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But on a serious note, I'd like to rewrite your post in a more comprehensible manner. (I didn't understand most of your post, but when re-writing I can actually come with a answer that keeps on the Thread) (No offense, really.)

 

"Mass effect 4 if set within the constraints of Me321 Would have to take place after the war because to get to the new galaxy with krogen still alive the genophage would have to be cured"

 

If Mass Effect 4 is set within the constraints of ME 1, 2 or 3 it would have to take place after the war, because to go to the new galaxy with Krogan still alive, The Genophage would have to be cured.

 

 Answer: It depends on many factors, OP... See, the Krogan are a slow dying race, but they can keep on going and going for lots of years more, even without reproduction.

 Basically, The decision to not cure the Genophage don't kill the Krogan right away. And even if they ARE extinct and if the game is set in another galaxy, one Krogan could survive(His life span hasn't ended, etc, etc...) and it could have minor dialogue changes if Shepard did or didn't cure the Genophage.

[Oldren Shepard]

Yes but cyro-sleep wasnt mention through the series except on ilois and eden prime so you could assume that only the protheans had the tech.

if the leaks are true they're going to use a wormhole, because is fast... and if the society manage to master the gravity i don't see the difficulty of creating a gravity pod to slow the time of the person inside the pod, like being near a black hole.

[Oldren Shepard]

in the multiplayer maybe in the main plot ...not probably

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[BraveVesperia]

Perhaps the humans, salarians and other short-lived species are in stasis pods, while the krogan and asari navigate, maintain the pods and look after the ship. Wouldn't that be an interesting trust exercise!

[Undead Han]

If they go to Andromeda the old-fashioned way rather than by wormhole, I'd guess the whole crew would probably be in cryosleep. They'd probably use a VI or an AI to monitor and maintain the ship.

[Majestic Jazz]

I'm not sure I follow. The genophage didn't make the krogan infertile or unable to reproduce, they just reproduce in much fewer numbers. Also, if we assume they use cryo-sleep or maybe a worm-hole shortcut thing to get to Andromeda, it's not like the krogan in ME4 have to be descendants of generations of Ark-travelling krogans. And even without cryo-sleep, krogan live for almost a millenium anyway I'm having trouble coming up with even the faintest idea of how the genophage is related to having krogans in Andromeda.

The point is that Bioware does not want to establish a canon for the trilogy and the Krogan are in ME4 which means the genophage has to at least be addressed in some way. How they got there isnt the question, but their biology is the main question. Will the Krogan in ME4 be cured or still fighting the genophage? How dows Bioware answer this?

[Sanunes]

The point is that Bioware does not want to establish a canon for the trilogy and the Krogan are in ME4 which means the genophage has to at least be addressed in some way. How they got there isnt the question, but their biology is the main question. Will the Krogan in ME4 be cured or still fighting the genophage? How dows Bioware answer this?

 

Why do they have to address it? If they are going to have Krogan in the next game they can simply have them there and not talk about the cure or lack thereof, for we don't know how long they plan on making the trip if the rumours are true.

[goishen]

Plus, I don't really think you know how fast krogan metabolism is.  They had to update the genophage the first time because they were adapting.  Who's to say that they can't adapt again?  With cryo-sleep your body is not dead.  It's just slowed down.  So why can't they wake up and start popping out babies?

 

Also, your point about protheans only having the technology is a tad off the rails.  The protheans may have had the best technology for that, but certainly not the only technology.

[Nitrocuban]

Headbutting.

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[MrFob]

Headbutting.

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If you can be a Krogan in ME Next, I would want to be able to go though the entire game, just with headbutting. Headbutt should be a dialogue option in every single conversation for a Krogan.

[N7Jamaican]

It doesn't mean genophage would have to be cured, it could have been sabotaged as well.  However, if the leak is to be true -- who would want a Krogan for a squadmate if the protagonist is Human knowing Shepard F**KED over the Krogan?

[Nitrocuban]

If you can be a Krogan in ME Next, I would want to be able to go though the entire game, just with headbutting. Headbutt should be a dialogue option in every single conversation for a Krogan.

Headbutting should be the Paragon option and "eat him cause he's a fool" the Renegade option.

Cmon Biower, make it happen!

[Majestic Jazz]

Why do they have to address it? If they are going to have Krogan in the next game they can simply have them there and not talk about the cure or lack thereof, for we don't know how long they plan on making the trip if the rumours are true.

Why? Because it was an important part of the their pressence in the ME trilogy. It was also a key element to their personality and cultural make up. Just remember the many dialog options that discussed this on Tuchunka in ME2. For Bioware not to address this would be borderline retcon.

[Sanunes]

Why? Because it was an important part of the their pressence in the ME trilogy. It was also a key element to their personality and cultural make up. Just remember the many dialog options that discussed this on Tuchunka in ME2. For Bioware not to address this would be borderline retcon.

 

It doesn't mean that being cured or not cured will have that level of impact yet and even though it might be an important aspect of the Krogan part of the storyline. It might not even be handled in a way that people would like for it could reduce the amount of dialogue you would hear on the subject anyway, like how the past of the Inquisitor is done in Dragon Age: Inquisition, there are only a handful of times the race of the Inquisitor is really brought into the game.  Or the situations could be diluted to fit the two possible outcomes like how they needed to account for every interaction with a squad member that might have died in a previous Mass Effect game.

[SpacePirateRegis]

I'd feel a tad bit over-powered playing as a Krogan!  Probably only in multiplayer.