I don't really get it, even after a lot of time playing the game.
I can nuke a spawn 3 seconds into the objective (Atlas on wave 3 for example), get a kill streak or a very solid spawn kill and the target would not switch.
I've had instances, were I nuked an Atlas and a single trooper 20 seconds or more into the objective and the target would switch to a Nemesis or something.
So it's not really the kill count or how fast you do it. Is it purely % chance? 
I've killed the last target at 0:00 but still died on Wave 11. It seems pretty random for the game to either switch or keep the target the same enemy.
You have to nuke a specific enemy(ies) with the boss.
For example, nuking an atlas on w3 with an assault trooper won't switch the target. Nuking it with a dragoon will switch it to a dragoon. Just nuking the atlas will never switch it.
You have to nuke a specific enemy(ies) with the boss.
For example, nuking an atlas on w3 with an assault trooper won't switch the target. Nuking it with a dragoon will switch it to a dragoon. Just nuking the atlas will never switch it.
That seems very undependable and very random. I don't think anyone should really try for it, and just focus on killing their target. Unless you were fast enough or the spawn was close enough, the likeliness of killing a dragoon with an Atlas is small in chance.
For my part I usually just run around indiscriminately blasting stuff with my missile launcher on Target waves and hoping for the best. NightSlasher's way probably makes more sense, though.
I believe it is the amount of points. If they are spawned together, you have the best chance when you nuke. If the spawns are separate, then you may not have enough to switch targets. That's why it's important in speedrunning to control spawns.
This is speaking for Gold. Platinum only allows for a target switch on 2 objective waves out of all factions.
Generally, if you want to switch targets, you need to kill the current target along with a unit that the objective can switch to (if you nuke Atlas with a Nemesis/Dragoon/Phantom, it will switch to one of these units). This can be done by killing both units at the same moment, typically done the easiest with a rocket.
An exception to that is Reapers wave 6, where the target will be Brute no matter what.
This is speaking for Gold. Platinum only allows for a target switch in on 2 objective waves out of all factions.
Generally, if you want to switch targets, you need to kill the current target along with a unit that the objective can switch to (if you nuke Atlas with a Nemesis/Dragoon/Phantom, it will switch to one of these units). This can be done by killing both units at the same moment, typically done the easiest with a rocket.
An exception to that is Reapers wave 6, where the target will be Brute no matter what.
I've had ravagers on wave 6 reapers. Usually after some smarty pants pug nukes the oh-so-hard-to-kill brute.
Anyway OP, this is pretty much all there is to it.
This is speaking for Gold. Platinum only allows for a target switch under very specific circumstances.
Generally, if you want to switch targets, you need to kill a unit the current target along with a unit that the objective can switch to (if you nuke Atlas with a Nemesis/Dragoon/Phantom, it will switch to one of these units). This can be done by killing both units at the same moment, typically done the easiest with a rocket.
An exception to that is Reapers wave 6, where the target will be Brute no matter what.
I only know two switches on platinum, w3 collectors, brute to a-bomb. w6 reapers, atlas to guardian or ravanger. I assume these are the once you refer to.
On topic, it`s about killing the target and a switchable unit at the same time. Has nothing to do with time or points in my experience. I have switches targets on reaper plat many times by nuking the atlas and only a guardian or ravanger, as in only those two units, still get a switch.
I've had ravagers on wave 6 reapers. Usually after some smarty pants pug nukes the oh-so-hard-to-kill brute.
Anyway OP, this is pretty much all there is to it.
Well, I've nuked Brutes before, but I've never seen it switch. Maybe they have to be nuked together with Ravagers for that to happen.
On reapers plat wave 6, you can switch an atlas to a ravager or a guardian.
On w3 coll. plat, you can switch brute to an abomb.
That's all for plat.
Well, I've nuked Brutes before, but I've never seen it switch. Maybe they have to be nuked together with Ravagers for that to happen.
Yeah they do, of course.
That seems very undependable and very random. I don't think anyone should really try for it, and just focus on killing their target. Unless you were fast enough or the spawn was close enough, the likeliness of killing a dragoon with an Atlas is small in chance.
It's not random at all.
Atlas always switches to dragoon if you nuke them together on w3 gold/cerb (unless you kill 3 goons and deplete their budget)
Primes always switch to pyros on w10 geth gold.
Crabs always switch to scions on w10 coll. plat.
Speed doesn't matter.
It's not random at all.
Atlas always switches to dragoon if you nuke them together on w3 gold/cerb (unless you kill 3 goons and deplete their budget)
Primes always switch to pyros on w10 geth gold.
Crabs always switch to scions on w10 coll. plat.
Speed doesn't matter.
Do Dragoons even spawn with the Atlas? Or do they spawn with other enemies on other spawn points?
Do Dragoons even spawn with the Atlas? Or do they spawn with other enemies on other spawn points?
That's hard to say. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
But the switch is very dependable. If you can get those two with one nuke, the next target will be a dragoon (unless the 3 goon per wave budget is depleted, in which case it'll be a trooper).
I've had ravagers on wave 6 reapers. Usually after some smarty pants pug nukes the oh-so-hard-to-kill brute.
Anyway OP, this is pretty much all there is to it.
I don't remember seeing any target switching on Wave 6 Reapers, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. I always laugh when a PUG nukes a Brute target. Really? Save those rockets, you'll definitely need them.
Do Dragoons even spawn with the Atlas? Or do they spawn with other enemies on other spawn points?
Well, even if they do, you ain't gonna catch them all with one nuke unless they either spawn in your view, close, and you've got the launcher ready, or they get stuck behind the atlas.
Well, even if they do, you ain't gonna catch them all with one nuke unless they either spawn in your view, close, and you've got the launcher ready, or they get stuck behind the atlas.
Or you kite the Goon all the way to the Atlas, because both are completely predictable.
Wonder what actually is the cause of the target switch? There are rare times where the wrong target type spawns as well on Gold. Like a pyro target will be the first target when it was supposed to be a Prime.
Or you kite the Goon all the way to the Atlas, because both are completely predictable.
It depends on the difficulty, possibly wave, and how weak or strong the enemy you want the target switched too (how much wave budget they're worth might be what the game looks at). So yeah, I think on Gold Wave 3 objective you can switch it to an abomination, but not sure if the same can be done for wave 10?
Wonder what actually is the cause of the target switch? There are rare times where the wrong target type spawns as well on Gold. Like a pyro target will be the first target when it was supposed to be a Prime.
I speculate it's the order in which the units spawn. Let me elaborate.
How fast the units spawn literally seems to depend on how capable (possibly tied to FPS rate as well) the machine running the game is. When I watched some console gameplay videos and when my FPS tanked, spawns seemed to take like 3+ seconds to spawn all the units, while at other times, when I was playing on higher FPS, it seemed to go much faster, which brings me to the main point, which is that these units were spawning slowly, bigger and more costly units usually spawned the last.
I may very well be grasping at straws here and pulling stuff outta my ass though, because I have next to no evidence except my memory.
edit: it also doesn't explain why target switch is so rare on Platinum.
I speculate it's the order in which the units spawn. Let me elaborate.
How fast the units spawn literally seems to depend on how capable (possibly tied to FPS rate as well) the machine running the game is. When I watched some console gameplay videos and when my FPS tanked, spawns seemed to take like 3+ seconds to spawn all the units, while at other times, when I was playing on higher FPS, it seemed to go much faster, which brings me to the main point, which is that these units were spawning slowly, bigger and more costly units usually spawned the last.
I may very well be grasping at straws here and pulling stuff outta my ass though, because I have next to no evidence except my memory.
edit: it also doesn't explain why target switch is so rare on Platinum.
Well, my experience is definitely in line with that. Especially Atlases and Praetorians seem to take forever to spawn, at times.
I may very well be grasping at straws here and pulling stuff outta my ass though, because I have next to no evidence except my memory.
edit: it also doesn't explain why target switch is so rare on Platinum.
The real question is why are you keeping straws in your ass?
He likes it. Don't judge.
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