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[MPSai]

What do you mean? Garrus has always been a conflicted and confused individual. He believes in justice and hates being tied down by the bureaucratic BS that disrupts it but I don't think he knows who he really is or wants to be yet.

And he's still MY favorite character.

Modifié par MPSai, 28 février 2010 - 06:34 .

[Bootsykk]

Goryuu wrote...

It's like he was stuck in a blender and turned into another Saren! Is there ANY way of keeping hm normal? Cause he was my favortie character in the first one. If this is the only way I can have him, I aint gonna use him...

Just remind him of what you told him to stand for in ME1 during the loyalty mission. Don't worry about gaining his loyalty; either choice you make as long as you have high paragon points will work just fine.

If you didn't give him the talk about rules being there for a reason, then you're being a little bit hypocritical. Part of the reason he might think this way is if you told him, "Go on, do things your way," and after killing Saleon saying "This is the way it should feel."

[Sesshomaru47]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

I think that there needs to be an optional means of fixing the scar or not in-game. If you can heal Shepard's scars over, then you should be able to fix Garrus too. Not all of my Shepards would. In fact not all players would. I just think the option should be there--maybe if there's a DLC that is more Garrus-oriented, it would allow for the healing of the physical scars as well as trying to deal with some of the emotional ones.

But every step forward Garrus takes he takes two back. I stopped him from getting his revenge and he was happy lardy dah with it. Then in the final mission he was all for keeping a base that had resulted in the deaths of countless thousands of humans, he didn't care...Garrus' scars won't ever heal unless he has plastic surgery.

[Internet Kraken]

MPSai wrote...



What do you mean? Garrus has always been a conflicted and confused individual. He believes in justice and hates being tied down by the bureaucratic BS that disrupts it but I don't think he knows who he really is or wants to be yet.



And he's still MY favorite character.

That's why he was one of my favorite characters in Mass Effect. It felt like what you said to him actually had an influence. I found that to be very satisfying.



But no matter what you say to him, he;s always in Omega blowing criminals brains out as a crazy vigilante. So now I don't like him anymore, since it feels like he just ignored everything I said.

[SandTrout]

Anyone considered that Garrus might either like the scars and battle damage or considers it his duty to carry them? Similar to Zaeed carrying Jessie around with him, even though the gun doesn't work any more. Garrus chooses to remember the people he failed by leaving the scars on his face and the damage to his armor.

[Little Paw]

I think it was the dev teams little joke that people complained about his graphics in ME1, so they left an obvious issue in ME2 that was annoying. Think peepulz!!!

[noobzor99]

What happened to Garrus? Some nasty ****.



I like when he says "I love this rifle."



I also think that the reason it doesn't sound like him is the voice effects work better with lower-volume lines.

[Cypher0020]

Really liked Garrus this time too. In ME1 he was like this dorky kid that kept stepping on everyone's toes



Now he's playing batman and popping mercs on an outlaw asteroid and hellbent on revenge unless you say otherwise



Poor Garrus had a moral breakdown after Shepard died apparently

[TrueHD]

It was done simply because he would have looked practically identical to his ME1 version otherwise.

[MPSai]

Internet Kraken wrote...

That's why he was one of my favorite characters in Mass Effect. It felt like what you said to him actually had an influence. I found that to be very satisfying.

But no matter what you say to him, he;s always in Omega blowing criminals brains out as a crazy vigilante. So now I don't like him anymore, since it feels like he just ignored everything I said.

I think it's in character for him. His mentor got spaced, the team was broken up, he was already disgusted with the Citadel, but he was still idealistic so he got a bit reckless. Seems like Garrus to me, it's called character development.

TrueHD wrote...

It was done simply because he would have looked practically identical to his ME1 version otherwise.

Also sometimes it's hard to tell him apart from other Turians. Why do half of them wear blue!?

Modifié par MPSai, 28 février 2010 - 06:51 .

[Brass_Buckles]

Never said I didn't like Garrus, or that he wouldn't necessarily want to keep the scar. I just said it should be an option. I think it would add to the roleplaying aspect of the game if you could have some kind of plot to decide to fix his face (or not). Actually, my current Shepard got the medbay upgrade, but never used it because it seemed really unfair to Garrus to do so.

[Varenus Luckmann]

If anything, I would've wanted to see the damaged part of his face visibly reconstructed and cyborgized. Right now he just looks like he's got some scorch marks on his jaw and a neck collar.

Modifié par Varenus Luckmann, 28 février 2010 - 06:53 .

[JedTed]

I had thought that whether or not you let Garrus kill Dr. Saleon was the deciding factor but i geuss it's what you say to him after it. In ME1 i told him to back down but later when he suggest that you just kill Saren when you catch him i agreed.



I was thinking of importing another ME1 save to see how his attitude changes if you convince him to go back to c-sec.

[RPGmom28]

I like Garrus whether he's scarred or not. He's a stabilizing element to me, always there for Shepard, always supportive. I felt really bad for him, though, when it came to the scarring- especially when he was able to laugh it off so easily, clearly using humor as a cover. If I could fix his face with the medical bay I would. It's just sad to think of someone in his prime like that having to be self-conscious the rest of his life.

Not being able to get him new armor is silly. I think Cerberus would be good for it.

[Rodriguer2000]

garrus was always a rebel he just didnt really show it in me 1 if you talk to him he say how he would be willing to sacrifice hostages to get a criminal(dr heart) who remembers that?

[Internet Kraken]

MPSai wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...



That's why he was one of my favorite characters in Mass Effect. It felt like what you said to him actually had an influence. I found that to be very satisfying.



But no matter what you say to him, he;s always in Omega blowing criminals brains out as a crazy vigilante. So now I don't like him anymore, since it feels like he just ignored everything I said.

I think it's in character for him. His mentor got spaced, the team was broken up, he was already disgusted with the Citadel, but he was still idealistic so he got a bit reckless. Seems like Garrus to me, it's called character development.

Yeah, it's in character for Garrus if you played as a renegade. But I played as a Paragon,from what he said it sounded like he going to go back to C-Sec and make a legitimate effort this time to do things right. Instead he gave up in two months.Like he didn't even try and just found it easier to blow criminals brains out rather than arrest them.



I wouldn't mind Garrus doing this if he had a decent explanation. If he could explain why he went back on what he said, I might be start to like him again. Instead he has one sentence about bureaucratic bull**** and that's his entire excuse. No option to ever bring it up. It's far more important for Garrus to calibrate the engines and tell me stories about implied sex.

[Kayback]

No I agree.



You can fix Shepard, so why not fix him?



And one thing I loved from ME 1 was the ability to change my team mates armour, so we look like, you know, a team! The switch his uniform colour button works, but you can't fix the big hole in his armour? How is that sensible?



KBK

[Rodriguer2000]

Kayback wrote...

No I agree.

You can fix Shepard, so why not fix him?

And one thing I loved from ME 1 was the ability to change my team mates armour, so we look like, you know, a team! The switch his uniform colour button works, but you can't fix the big hole in his armour? How is that sensible?

KBK

i also hate how miranda was always wearing that outfit i mean seriously do you really think that outfit can withstand that many shots?I would pefer to have been able to get armor for everyone 

[RPGmom28]

Rodriguer2000 wrote...

Kayback wrote...

No I agree.

You can fix Shepard, so why not fix him?

And one thing I loved from ME 1 was the ability to change my team mates armour, so we look like, you know, a team! The switch his uniform colour button works, but you can't fix the big hole in his armour? How is that sensible?

KBK

i also hate how miranda was always wearing that outfit i mean seriously do you really think that outfit can withstand that many shots?I would pefer to have been able to get armor for everyone 

Totally agree about Miranda!  It's like, I get it, she's a female.  Now how about some non-silly actual protective armor?  Not interested in seeing her assets encased in rubber.  

[Rodriguer2000]

RPGmom28 wrote...

Rodriguer2000 wrote...

Kayback wrote...

No I agree.

You can fix Shepard, so why not fix him?

And one thing I loved from ME 1 was the ability to change my team mates armour, so we look like, you know, a team! The switch his uniform colour button works, but you can't fix the big hole in his armour? How is that sensible?

KBK

i also hate how miranda was always wearing that outfit i mean seriously do you really think that outfit can withstand that many shots?I would pefer to have been able to get armor for everyone 

Totally agree about Miranda!  It's like, I get it, she's a female.  Now how about some non-silly actual protective armor?  Not interested in seeing her assets encased in rubber.  

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lol yeah i mean ashley  wore armor and she didnt look bad they could have done it with miranda

[Kayback]

'Cos Spandex is bullet proof!



I agree 100%. I HATE games that make latex body paint equivalent to level VII Terminator armour. If I wanna look at boobies, I'll go to a porn site. I want a team of tough as nails, kicks ass Space Marines. Let me put them in armour damnit!

[Massadonious1]

His alt uniform should at least fix his armor.



But, keep the scars. Chicks dig scars.

[Mnemnosyne]

I agree that the armor really should be fixed, it's silly to have a hole in his armor forevermore.



I expect that it might be possible to mod his appearance back to the original un-blown up appearance you get when he first takes off his helmet, but I personally wouldn't know where to even begin looking.



As for Miranda (and other characters too, for that matter), I agree, I liked how in ME1 everyone wore proper armor on missions. I like her outfit, really I do, but it hurts my head when I see her on one of the missions where she's in a vacuum...with exposed skin. Can we keep the casual outfits to non-combat areas, damnit?

[Skilled Seeker]

Miranda uses her assets to her advantage. At least thats her reason for wearing her sleezy outfit, to distract the opposition.

[NebulaY]

Massadonious1 wrote...

But, keep the scars. Chicks dig scars.

but only krogan chicks...


but btt:

even in ME1 he tells you he wanted c-control to fire upon the ship of doc "heart" even though there were several hostages on board...hostages being tortured but hostages never the less.

in ME2 he just got a little more pragmatic.
after complaining being restrained in ME1 he now had the chance to do his way for 2 years and realized that you had to leave a bit from yourself behind when walking down that road.
only after talking to him a bit you realize how well he hides his emotions from himself to function as "archangel".
he sacrifizes part of himself to be this renegade ^^