... bsn-elite-pro tunnel vision confirmed with additional javelinitus. ...
I don't consider it a very elite-pro move to equip geth scanner or shoot with a javelin.
I just like to play with geth scanner.
You did read the "Seriously"-part of my post, did you?
I don't consider it a very elite-pro move to equip geth scanner or shoot with a javelin.
I just like to play with geth scanner.
You did read the "Seriously"-part of my post, did you?
Yes, but your "seriously" part feels like a footnote to the apparently not so serious part. I.e. the message of your "seriously" part is pretty much lost due to uneven proportions.
If that 50% boost to synthetics applies to the damage done to the player too, it's gonna die!
Take a chill pill.
Take a chill pill.
With those examples you are not "expecting" but you are forcing the others to either change their ways or to play the game on your own terms. I just want ot point out that with almost all kits there is an interaction between players that results in willing/unwilling adjustments, it is not unique to sabotage.
I'm not quite sure I'm explaining the distinction I'm trying to make very well... let's say I'm using a GE and there's a AA on the team; yes I may foul up their warp/throw combo as I've got full chain overload on the GE - unless I change kit or stay as far away from the AA as possible it's going to happen. The AA may decide to use throw twice to trigger both the tech burst and biotic explosion, they might not... either way, its absolutely fine, it's up to them what they do.
Now, more like the sabotage situation we're talking about, lets say I'm using a Justicar and there's an AA on the team - should I expect the AA to use warp or throw to detonate my reaves? Should I come on BSN and complain about idiotic PuGs not detonating my primed targets? It's not up to me to dictate that the AA should have been detonating my targets is it? Again, it's up to them what they do.
I hope that at least explains where I'm coming from.
I appreciate it but its obvious they don't want to pay attention to what they are responding to. I've already stated I'm not hacking enemies directly in front of them (In which case firing on it would be more understandable) but that I'm targeting units in the back, and then i see people ignoring all the enemies in front of them, to target the hacked unit in the back, which is just idiotic.
You're expecting random people, who you've no experience with and not necessarily even any synergy (by the very nature of Pick Up Groups), not to shoot an easy target, and hacked units are easy targets, irrespective as to how far away it is... that's a little, well, let's say naïve, don't you think?
My AA loves it when someone tech primes. She gets 2 detonations in a row for 2 Throws! How could anyone rightly complain about it? Throw twice.
It's not rocket medicine.
The last time I had someone spec'd into Hack in a match I saw something incredibly funny. Just happened to be Geth > White-Haz. The QFI was up above the ladder and not moving much. I was beating the stuffing out of the mooks in the stairwell on the way to beat the stuffing out of the LZ jerks. I paused by the QFI and down in the courtyard is a lone Prime. Hacked. Walking toward the back where someone was murdering a couple of troopers. Which were way dead before the Prime even made the corner. The QFI didn't shoot at the Prime (ya know - the lone one) or anything else like the LZ minions closing on them. They were watching their handy work down in the courtyard do absolutely nothing. I went full metal GI on the Prime and moved along.
Synergistic, man. Synergistic.
yeah no that's silly lol. I guess they arent used to hacking and wanted to see what would happen.
I'm not quite sure I'm explaining the distinction I'm trying to make very well... let's say I'm using a GE and there's a AA on the team; yes I may foul up their warp/throw combo as I've got full chain overload on the GE - unless I change kit or stay as far away from the AA as possible it's going to happen. The AA may decide to use throw twice to trigger both the tech burst and biotic explosion, they might not... either way, its absolutely fine, it's up to them what they do.
Now, more like the sabotage situation we're talking about, lets say I'm using a Justicar and there's an AA on the team - should I expect the AA to use warp or throw to detonate my reaves? Should I come on BSN and complain about idiotic PuGs not detonating my primed targets? It's not up to me to dictate that the AA should have been detonating my targets is it? Again, it's up to them what they do.
I hope that at least explains where I'm coming from.
You're expecting random people, who you've no experience with and not necessarily even any synergy (by the very nature of Pick Up Groups), not to shoot an easy target, and hacked units are easy targets, irrespective as to how far away it is... that's a little, well, let's say naïve, don't you think?
I suppose it is, which kills my faith in humanity a little more. Seriously, somebody who's never even PLAYED a shooter before would understand how to prioritize targets better than that.
Revenant is best gun
Seriously, somebody who's never even PLAYED a shooter before would understand how to prioritize targets better than that.
I think that's why you're seeing what you are in games these days. Hacked enemies aren't as popular as they once were. Nowadays most probably assume that any sabotaged targets are primed for TV. Hence -> shoot/spam powers at that glowing orange dude. Plus there are a lot of newish players that might not be totally familiar with it.
I think that's why you're seeing what you are in games these days. Hacked enemies aren't as popular as they once were. Nowadays most probably assume that any sabotaged targets are primed for TV. Hence -> shoot/spam powers at that glowing orange dude. Plus there are a lot of newish players that might not be totally familiar with it.
Yeah but then that implies that they think I'm trying to put TV on some distant useless enemy for no particular reason.
1- If it's in my way, I shoot it
2- If I can see it, it's in my way
So why can't you see all the other enemies in front of you?
So why can't you see all the other enemies in front of you?
I see 4, 5, sometimes 20 moves ahead.
My AA loves it when someone tech primes. She gets 2 detonations in a row for 2 Throws! How could anyone rightly complain about it? Throw twice.
It's not rocket medicine.
Some tech primers are unfortunately so fast, that throwing detonator twice won´t help. If you happen to fall in game with more tech users and/or Paladin it´s impossible to push biotic explosion through. For mooks there isn´t much room for multiple explosions until it´s dead. On bosses, single Paladin will make things go like this: warp-snape freeze-throw-cryo explosion-incinerate-throw-fire explosion-snap freeze-throw-cryo explosion-target dead(or warp expired).
But... those are old grievances, what´s been done has been done.
I think someone needs to create an enemy status flow chart, so we know when it's safe to attack.
Some tech primers are unfortunately so fast, that throwing detonator twice won´t help. If you happen to fall in game with more tech users and/or Paladin it´s impossible to push biotic explosion through. For mooks there isn´t much room for multiple explosions until it´s dead. On bosses, single Paladin will make things go like this: warp-snape freeze-throw-cryo explosion-incinerate-throw-fire explosion-snap freeze-throw-cryo explosion-target dead(or warp expired).
But... those are old grievances, what´s been done has been done.
Is that bad? Does it matter what TYPE of explosions you are getting?
Really?
Sounds like a Kindergarten problem.
If Tech was priming that fast I would be content to spam Throw the entire match.
Yeah but then that implies that they think I'm trying to put TV on some distant useless enemy for no particular reason.
Nah you're over-thinking it; they're probably not even considering why you sabotaged that particular unit. Easy target > shoot it.
The game's not really hard enough to force teamwork so you rarely get it, especially with randoms.
I'm not quite sure I'm explaining the distinction I'm trying to make very well... let's say I'm using a GE and there's a AA on the team; yes I may foul up their warp/throw combo as I've got full chain overload on the GE - unless I change kit or stay as far away from the AA as possible it's going to happen. The AA may decide to use throw twice to trigger both the tech burst and biotic explosion, they might not... either way, its absolutely fine, it's up to them what they do.
Now, more like the sabotage situation we're talking about, lets say I'm using a Justicar and there's an AA on the team - should I expect the AA to use warp or throw to detonate my reaves? Should I come on BSN and complain about idiotic PuGs not detonating my primed targets? It's not up to me to dictate that the AA should have been detonating my targets is it? Again, it's up to them what they do.
I hope that at least explains where I'm coming from.
You're expecting random people, who you've no experience with and not necessarily even any synergy (by the very nature of Pick Up Groups), not to shoot an easy target, and hacked units are easy targets, irrespective as to how far away it is... that's a little, well, let's say naïve, don't you think?
I do not have any expectations about pugs, some are good some are bad. That makes them interesting: each of them is different. However, in this thread you (me) are the pug(s): don't worry about what others can or cannot do, if you can do it then do it yourself.
I do not have any expectations about pugs, some are good some are bad. That makes them interesting: each of them is different. However, in this thread you (me) are the pug(s): don't worry about what others can or cannot do, if you can do it then do it yourself.
So you're saying pugs can do whatever they want, but BSN should know better.
BSN does know better, you just disagree with our knowledge.
I'm old and blind..and if something is standing still it gets shot
I actually just had a game with a Paladin for my Asari Commando to follow around. Once he figured out that I was just spamming Throw at everything, he started spamming Snap Freeze. I don't take the radius Throw, only single target, so that it doesn't negate Primers on multiple targets.
The best part was when two Primes were standing next to each other. For each Snap Freeze he did, I did 2 Throws, one at each Prime, resulting in 2 Cryo Explosions per Snap Freeze. It was comparable to Chain Overload, maybe even better. A dozen Cryo Explosions later and we had 2 dead Primes in literally like 10 seconds.
TL;DR: L2P
So you're saying pugs can do whatever they want, but BSN should know better.
BSN does know better, you just disagree with our knowledge.
You are confusing knowledge with dogma fueled by the tunnel vison of elitist bsn players who are unable or unwilling to take the persepective of someone who does not have a maxed out manifest and cannot kill targets in split seconds.
Neither you nor any of your buddies provided the tiniest bit of evidence why shooting non-dangerous hacked unit would be beneficial to anyone (as long as there are other targets around) yet you still insist that the OP's request is silly and that you will shot anything in front of you indiscriminately. This is not "knowledge" this is pure-breed elitism and tunnel vision.
You are confusing knowledge with dogma fueled by the tunnel vison of elitist bsn players who are unable or unwilling to take the persepective of someone who does not have a maxed out manifest and cannot kill targets in split seconds.
Neither you nor any of your buddies provided the tiniest bit of evidence why shooting non-dangerous hacked unit would be beneficial to anyone (as long as there are other targets around) yet you still insist that the OP's request is silly and that you will shot anything in front of you indiscriminately. This is not "knowledge" this is pure-breed elitism and tunnel vision.
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