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[Capone666]

Just finished up my EXTENSIVE interview with David Gaider, leader writer for the series.

 

We spoke a lot about cut content especially in DA I, the game originally was intended to end with a "Quest for Solas' playable epilogue but through iteration it just didn't work-

 

Hundreds of things just like in the interview- here are some of the tweets during. 

 

#Biowarechat @dragonage origins originally was intended to be told retrospectively....by an old woman...MORRIGAN! @davidgaider  

#Biowarechat on Gay romances making the game sell more 

#Biowarechat on creating transgender character in the Dragon Age universe- KREM FOREVER 

 

Acknowledging the character Serendipity "Fucked up" 

 

#Biowarechat ran the idea of Krem by the transgender world during it's creation @davidgaider @dragonage 

#Biowarechat The next step is to find a transgender performer for the next trans gender character @dragonage @davidgaider


#Biowarechat DA2 happened so quickly, it started not even as a standalone game @davidgaider @dragonage 
 

#Biowarechat In DA2 look at the difference creating an established character vs prologue blank slate @davidgaider @dragonage 

#Biowarechat @davidgader on the cuts of mage specific stuff in DA2 @dragonage

#Biowarechat @davidgader on cutting some mage specific storylines in DA2, entering in the Fade @dragonage 

#Biowarechat @davidgader yelling and screaming about cuts in DA2, in retrospect- he understand now why they had to be @dragonage 

#Biowarechat @davidgaider speaks more on the decision to include the Qunari  in DA2 @dragonage 

#Biowarechat On rivalry and Friendship in DA 2 

#Biowarechat On the controversial nature of all characters in DA2 @dragonage @davidgaider 

#Biowarechat Initial story of Dragon Age Inqusition was meant to be much MUCH longer @davidgaider 

#Biowarechat @davidgaider had to take a month off after the DA2 expansion was cancelled QQ @dragonage 

#Biowarechat @davidgaider explains DAI was originally TWICE as long as it ended up being @dragonage 

#BiowareChat The ending of DAI was redone several several times @dragonage @davidgaider

#Biowarechat There is one cut in @dragonage inquisition where there is a "Quest for Solas" epilogue @davidgaider 

#Biowarechat @davidgaider same amount of content cut from DAI as DA2 @dragonage 

#Biowarechat The ball at Halamshirall went through several different iterations @dragonage inqusition @davidgader  

#Biowarechat I would have liked to have ALL characters from the @dragonage universe in DAI but it couldn't be done! @davidgader 

#Biowarechat We always wanted to make more established back races, they weren't going to make them but they got an extra year to create it

#Biowarechat 80% of the people that played DAI played humans, still appreciated the options to play any race @dragonage @Davidgader 

 

#Biowarechat on the power of choice in the @dragonage universe @davidgaider 

#Biowarechat on the creation of the @dragonage Keep in @davidgaider 

#Biowarechat on content that worked and didn't in @dragonage in @davidgaider 

#Biowarechat Doesn't want to break the fans hearts describing some ideas he had for the game @dragonage @davidgaider 

#Biowarechat I always love #Morrigan @davidgaider @dragonage 

#Biowarechat Originally worried Cassandra would be inherently unlikeable @davidgaider @dragonage 

#Biowarechat On the concept of faith in @dragonage @davidgaider 

#Biowarechat do we have gay characters an avoid the issue? Or do we explore it as something that defines their character @davidgaider #Drag

#Biowarechat HUGE changes made on Dorian @Dragonage inquistion

#Biowarechat His message to fans of the @dragonage franchise @davidgaider 

#Biowarechat @davidgaider on handing off his character Cole to @PatrickWeekes "Stay away from him you ....!" @dragonage

#Biowarechat "I've never played a @dragonage from beginning to end" @davidgaider 

#Biowarechatt EXCLUSIVE INFO on new @Bioware project....it will be cool and fun! @davidgaider @dragonage 

Finally @davidgaider speaking to the fans as he leaves @dragonage HUGE THANKS for talking to me for hours and hours 

HUGE thanks to the fans who kept him going and going and going 

[Frybread76]

I would have loved to have had a longer main story.

[Lukas Trevelyan]

It's kinda sad that the game went through so much cut content (as implied). Though it is understandable, redoing the main quests several times must've seriously exhausted the resources :s

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Why was the main story made so short then? It's one of the more common complaints.

[Toasted Llama]

Why was the main story made so short then? It's one of the more common complaints.

You DO realize that these companies still have to make profit, right? When there's no more budget you've gotta wrap things up.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

You DO realize that these companies still have to make profit, right? When there's no more budget you've gotta wrap things up.

 

But they obviously had a lot of resources for this one. I feel like the allocation of them for sidequests compared main plot seems more heavily slanted towards sidequests compared to previous installments.

[LightningPoodle]

You DO realize that these companies still have to make profit, right? When there's no more budget you've gotta wrap things up.

 

Then they should have cut the fetch quests that do nothing for the overall story.

[nightscrawl]

Thanks for this mini summary. Looking forward to the full interviews.

[Chuvvy]

You DO realize that these companies still have to make profit, right? When there's no more budget you've gotta wrap things up.

 

Should've cut some of the hub areas in favor of the story. Places like the emerald graves, emprise du lion, fallow mire, storm coast, and exalted plains have almost no story content in them and could easily be removed in favor of an expanded main quest.

[AresKeith]

But they obviously had a lot of resources for this one. I feel like the allocation of them for sidequests compared main plot seems more heavily slanted towards sidequests compared to previous installments.

 

They probably strained the resources when they kept going through content that gets cut

[LightningPoodle]

Should've cut someone of the hub areas in favor of the story. Places like the emerald graves, emprise du lion, fallow mire, storm coast, and exalted plains have almost no story content in them and could easily be removed in favor of a better story.

 

I fear that, after announcing that the world was going to be this huge interactive thing, and that every area was massive and interesting and you can go do all these different things, that they felt when the time came, that was what they had to deliver on. Honestly, I wouldn't have cared if the didn't fulfill on that promise so long as the story I got to play was enjoyable, rich, memorable and all around replayable. (I know many people have played several different characters and that people have enjoyed the game; I won't deny that, but to me, I am struggling to even make it past Haven now that I have completed the game once already - The story just does not interest me, whereas I can pick up any other Dragon Age or Mass Effect game and just replay them again and again, without complaint.)

[LightningPoodle]

They probably strained the resources when they kept going through content that gets cut

 

Then that must have been a terrible decision when starting the project. Expecting to be able to do everything they wanted and just starting it without getting anything solid down. I would have gotten the story set in stone first, then added all the other areas and fetch quests that aren't relevant but just add more to the game. Seems like the logical way to do it, otherwise this happens and the story you want to tell can't be told because there's no money left to do it.

[Chuvvy]

I fear that, after announcing that the world was going to be this huge interactive thing, and that every area was massive and interesting and you can go do all these different things, that they felt when the time came, that was what they had to deliver on. Honestly, I wouldn't have cared if the didn't fulfill on that promise so long as the story I got to play was enjoyable, rich, memorable and all around replayable. (I know many people have played several different characters and that people have enjoyed the game; I won't deny that, but to me, I am struggling to even make it past Haven now that I have completed the game once already - The story just does not interest me, whereas I can pick up any other Dragon Age or Mass Effect game and just replay them again and again, without complaint.)

 

At the very least BW seems aware of the areas they need to improve on. They admitted in the Kotaku interview that the story was very weak, and more or less peaked at the battle at Haven. With luck in DA4 we'll get the best that DAO, DA2, and DAI had to offer. There are things that each game does well that the others fail at.

[turuzzusapatuttu]

Then they should have cut the fetch quests that do nothing for the overall story.

 

Fetch quests do something, in fact. They are there to entertain casual gamers.

 

They should have done less fetch quests and focus more on the main story.

 

I'm sure they'll learn from this and do better in the next game.

[AresKeith]

Then that must have been a terrible decision when starting the project. Expecting to be able to do everything they wanted and just starting it without getting anything solid down. I would have gotten the story set in stone first, then added all the other areas and fetch quests that aren't relevant but just add more to the game. Seems like the logical way to do it, otherwise this happens and the story you want to tell can't be told because there's no money left to do it.

 

The overall story was set in stone, trying to set it in-game along with other things is where content gets cut or reworked 

[LightningPoodle]

The overall story was set in stone, trying to set it in-game along with other things is where content gets cut or reworked

That's what I meant. Instead of diverting lots of money and resources into other areas that aren't critical, they could have gotten more hands and thrown more resources into the story aspect of the game. Once that's done, then set out to implement everything else. If they run out of resources, then they can cut back on that stuff, leaving the story largely intact. Why sacrifice elements of a great story to accomodate something that isn't necessary? Boggles my mind.

[JadeDragon]

The main story should have been the main focus. Id rather they finished the main story first then worked all the other quest after around the main story. priority should have been main story, companion quest, then zone and fetch quest last.

[LightningPoodle]

Fetch quests do something, in fact. They are there to entertain casual gamers.

Fair enough. With a large game like this, fetch quests are useful, whether that be brief entertainment or for those who can't play hours on end, allowing them to get some sense of accomplishment.

[AresKeith]

That's what I meant. Instead of diverting lots of money and resources into other areas that aren't critical, they could have gotten more hands and thrown more resources into the story aspect of the game. Once that's done, then set out to implement everything else. If they run out of resources, then they can cut back on that stuff, leaving the story largely intact. Why sacrifice elements of a great story to accomodate something that isn't necessary? Boggles my mind.

 

They have to divert the resources to multiple areas of the game, that's how all video games do it. Jugding by how they intended the story to go longer means that it did have a lot of resources 

[Adanu]

Might have had a main story worth a damn if they had cut out all the MMO crap and stuck with actual storytelling.

 

The way the mage-templar story was handled was a complete travesty.

[Toasted Llama]

But they obviously had a lot of resources for this one. I feel like the allocation of them for sidequests compared main plot seems more heavily slanted towards sidequests compared to previous installments.

 

Then they should have cut the fetch quests that do nothing for the overall story.

 

Should've cut some of the hub areas in favor of the story. Places like the emerald graves, emprise du lion, fallow mire, storm coast, and exalted plains have almost no story content in them and could easily be removed in favor of an expanded main quest.

I hope you all ALSO realize that fetch quests and filler content are a TON easier (and faster?) to create in the dozens than the main storyline. The main quests/storyline have to push through a higher standard than side content, so for every 5-10 fetchquests you get maybe 2-3 main quests.

You're going to have to severely limit the areas, fetch quests and what not to get a notable difference in main quest/storyline.

And one of Bioware's problems in previous games has been too small, too few and too linear areas. They were probably too cautious to take down several areas.

[Eivion]

Would love some detail on the cut content. I'm not really surprised there was intent for a lot more. I love DAi, but found it slightly frustrating as you could feel quite a bit of it was likely streamlined both story and gameplay wise.

[AresKeith]

Might have had a main story worth a damn if they had cut out all the MMO crap and stuck with actual storytelling.

 

The way the mage-templar story was handled was a complete travesty.

 

I disagree with that

[Mihura]

So the content cut was almost the same in DA 2... damn it must be a lot. It is gonna to be funny if they sell that Solas quest as a DLC, ah well.

[AresKeith]

So the content cut was almost the same in DA 2... damn it must be a lot. It is gonna to be funny if they sell that Solas quest as a DLC, ah well.

 

They probably will make a Solas DLC with the content, it sounds like something they wanted to do