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How to have fun playing the Talon Merc without being a CTM-spamming a$$hole?


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Swan Killer

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I've played this guy about twice since its release, and I'd like to complete my melee CPs, so I've decided to give this guy another whirl.

I'm not really against using Cain Trip Mines with moderation, but I'm against abuisng the hell out of it, that just kills the fun.

So how would you play this kit without focusing on the mines? What weapons, builds work on him? 



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Dalakaar

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Keybind stealing scumbag can go die in a fire.


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acicm2

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well I would use a power amp with him and spam trip mines...oh...


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DaemionMoadrin

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Yeah, hate to tell you... but the arrows don't seem to count as melee damage, despite generating melee kills. I had the same idea and my challenge points didn't increase at all after three games with the Talon Merc.


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Graal + Omni-blade, Concussive Arrows for Ragdolling Phantoms... screw optimum build, dance you twitchy space ninja b*tch, DANCE!


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Stand in the box of shame on Rio with mines on each wall and just stand there.

 

Oh wait, that's just what some BotB was doing in a pug I was in yesterday.  Don't do that.

 

Don't be that guy.


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Deerber

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Play another kit... :P


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NuclearTech76

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Any charge based weapon and ap arrows are fun. Graal and GPS are best IMO. Argent had a good arrow based build. Kishock is also lol on him.
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Stand in the box of shame on Rio with mines on each wall and just stand there.

 

Oh wait, that's just what some BotB was doing in a pug I was in yesterday.  Don't do that.

 

Don't be that guy.

 

I knew that pug logic was too good to be made up.



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EnemySpinach

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Conc + Cain

Throw a mine behind them. Concussive them into it.

Efficient? Not as much as Cain Spam, no. Stylish? GEEZ, YES!



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MajorStupidity

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1. Graal + omni-blade

2. melee spec

3. strength enhancer + power amp

4. ???

5. Profit

 

I personally spec out of CTMs in favor of both arrow types.


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#12
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World famous Robin Hood build.  :lol:


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#13
Swan Killer

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World famous Robin Hood build.  :lol:

 

Cain Trip Mine the **** out of the map, and give free credits to the poor PUGs? :)


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Excella Gionne

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Never played him on PC, and never will. I don't have the patience to redo my kebinds.


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DemiserofD

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If the only keybinding you change is medigel to facilitate reload canceling, you can substitute an arrow power for it with a GPS or Graal. 

For me, with him, the key is playing on a big level where you can control the spawns. The arrows auto-home in even if you're not targeting the enemy as long as they're fairly close, so on a level like london or condor you can take out enemies from halfway across the map. Combine that with cryo ammo to keep them at that distance and against certain enemies, like geth, you can go an entire game without getting shot once. On the other hand, if you let them get close it can be an incredible pain. I had a game recently with this insanely annoying sexbot on giant; when she wasn't there, the enemies would spawn on the other side of the map, and all die coming down the ramp. Seriously, one at a time in a daisy chain, it was beautiful. And then she, the bosh'tet, would run into them, make phantoms spawn behind us, and get everyone killed. 

*Deep breaths.*

The two enemies he has the most trouble with are phantoms and praetorians, as phantoms will dance around your arrows indefinitely while praetorians will just be straight up immune to 90% of your damage until they're close enough to land. The GPS deals with the phantoms(stagger, then follow up with arrows), but the only real solution to praetorians is to run up to them, get them to land, and then pound them to death. Fortunately you do a lot of damage.

Oh, and take a grenade capacity mod. I used to take melee bonus gear, but eventually I realized that it's better for your DPS to not have to run for grenades at a bad moment. Plus, it gives you the capability to spam mines in situations where you might otherwise use a missile anyway. It's just convenient.


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The two enemies he has the most trouble with are phantoms and praetorians, as phantoms will dance around your arrows indefinitely while praetorians will just be straight up immune to 90% of your damage until they're close enough to land. The GPS deals with the phantoms(stagger, then follow up with arrows), but the only real solution to praetorians is to run up to them, get them to land, and then pound them to death. Fortunately you do a lot of damage.
 

Concussive arrows wreck phantoms.



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DemiserofD

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Concussive arrows wreck phantoms.

Unfortunately they suck at everything else. Given the choice, I'd rather be amazing at damage vs 95% of enemies than vs 5% of them. Or if they got damage bonuses vs chilled enemies, like concussive shot, or something. They really could have done something with that. I kinda wish they'd made concussive arrows a biotic power, then switched the Talon Merc and the Paladin. Because the Paladin is kinda techy for a sentinel. And the Talon is kinda...weird...for an engineer.



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World famous Robin Hood build.  :lol:

 

Which I invented....


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Unfortunately they suck at everything else. Given the choice, I'd rather be amazing at damage vs 95% of enemies than vs 5% of them. Or if they got damage bonuses vs chilled enemies, like concussive shot, or something. They really could have done something with that. I kinda wish they'd made concussive arrows a biotic power, then switched the Talon Merc and the Paladin. Because the Paladin is kinda techy for a sentinel. And the Talon is kinda...weird...for an engineer.

I skip CTMs so I get both :D



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Which I invented....

 

LOL,  that **** was hilarious.


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Excella Gionne

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LOL,  that **** was hilarious.

I have my eyes set on something much bigger...



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Salarian Jesus

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Cain mine spam is awesome. In moderation. The other ways, I just can't enjoy.



#23
Swan Killer

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So I tried it tonight.

NEVER AGAIN AM I TOUCHING THIS PIECE OF ****** ****.

RAGErageRAGERAGEEEE!!!

Makes me want to open a mother******* retirement thread!!!

LOUD NOISES!!!!

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Dalakaar

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Oops



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Which I invented....

 

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its like 2012 all over again.


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