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Archer longshot alternative now that it is nerfed?


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iamchaossthought

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btw, I tried searching for a thread that had such info, and if you know of one I would kindly appreciate you pasting it here!

 

 

But, yeah, as the title states, I am wondering if there is an alternative now that longshot does significantly less damage.  It really kind of makes my archer build feel all wonky.


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capn233

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Promote more to make up the damage.



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DrakeHasNoFlow

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Explosive shot

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ALTBOULI

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Spike Trap is pretty powerful on the archer now and Explosive shot has also got a buff. I would still keep it personally though
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For some reason I think explosive shot is actually doing a little more damage than longshot even though it should be doing the same or a little less.  It's good now.

 

Also, try knockout bomb+leaping shot with mercy killing and flanking fire.  I'm thinking of going with explosive shot, leaping shot, knockout bomb, and spike trap.  Caltrops are also decent now too.


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DrakeHasNoFlow

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Who needs long shot, when you can caltrops.
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iamchaossthought

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For some reason I think explosive shot is actually doing a little more damage than longshot even though it should be doing the same or a little less.  It's good now.

 

Also, try knockout bomb+leaping shot with mercy killing and flanking fire.  I'm thinking of going with explosive shot, leaping shot, knockout bomb, and spike trap.  Caltrops are also decent now too.

 

Great advice.  I think I am going to give that a try.  Sounds fun and a lot more intimate than my usual sniping archer!



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Explosive shot does about 150 now

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While LS does signifigantly less, end game equipped* archers can still one shot everything, and Mark of Death the dragon.

 

ES's new buff makes it awesome though. Leaping Shot remains awesome as well.

 

Equipment:
Longshot Ring

Superb Critical Damage ring

Superb Dexterity Amulet

 

Bow of Dragon or Cruel Redemption /w + Critical Damage bonus upgrade

 

Flanking fire passive required, Height bonus optional.

Pincushion for LpS damage is nice

 

Basically, stack the bonuses and see amazing damage on everything.



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Kalas Magnus

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While LS does signifigantly less, end game equipped* archers can still one shot everything, and Mark of Death the dragon.

 

ES's new buff makes it awesome though. Leaping Shot remains awesome as well.

 

Equipment:
Longshot Ring

Superb Critical Damage ring

Superb Dexterity Amulet

 

Bow of Dragon or Cruel Redemption /w + Critical Damage bonus upgrade

 

Flanking fire passive required, Height bonus optional.

Pincushion for LpS damage is nice

 

Basically, stack the bonuses and see amazing damage on everything.

what numbers are you hitting?

 

at least he is easier to play now cuz everyone is using the lute player



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I can do over 20k with mark to dragon and my long shots do up to 2k



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I can do over 20k with mark to dragon and my long shots do up to 2k


2k long shot is about the upper limits now with the changes...
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Kalas Magnus

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2k long shot is about the upper limits now with the changes...

upper limit?

 

forget it then.

3k less damage. dang



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I am getting between 2.8 to 3k on my Longshot using the Dragon Bow (175 base damage), Longshot Ring and 20% Critical Damage Ring. It is significantly less, but it still is pretty damn powerful. I got a 41k Mark of Death on a Dragon today, though that was mostly due to Leaping Shot (virtually cooldown-free), not Longshot.

The Archer does less damage, but his min/max builds and gameplay approach are the same.



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what numbers are you hitting?

I am getting between 2.8 to 3k on my Longshot using the Dragon Bow (175 base damage), Longshot Ring and 20% Critical Damage Ring. It is significantly less, but it still is pretty damn powerful. I got a 41k Mark of Death on a Dragon today, though that was mostly due to Leaping Shot (virtually cooldown-free), not Longshot.

The Archer does less damage, but his min/max builds and gameplay approach are the same.

 

Basically what SpaceV3gan is doing, though a little higher when I'm doing crits (less without crits). I also use Fire Rune and Explosive shots if LS is on CD

 

3.5k is still my upper limit right now, but the right circumstances and build can go higher. You'll want to focus on +Dexterity passives, Flanking Fire, and that +Max Height bonus damage, in your build if you want to maximize longshot damage. On occasion sneak attack too if your cunning is low.



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The alternative to prenerf longshot, is postnerf longshot.

 

No need to really change anything or over-think it. Instead of getting 25-40 kill streaks, you may have to settle for 15-20.

 

It's still one of the strongest abilities in the game.



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Even if you can't kill with it LS is pretty great because that mean your teammate gets to have kill streaks with all the near-death enemies.



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Kalas Magnus

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The alternative to prenerf longshot, is postnerf longshot.

 

No need to really change anything or over-think it. Instead of getting 25-40 kill streaks, you may have to settle for 15-20.

 

It's still one of the strongest abilities in the game.

it is.

 

i just tried him. got 60 killstreak

 

wouldnt be surprised if someone was getting close to 80 prenerf.



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it is.

 

i just tried him. got 60 killstreak

 

wouldnt be surprised if someone was getting close to 80 prenerf.

On ferelden castle though right? Anyone can get a huge killstreak there. Got 44 with the alchemist the other day.



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Kalas Magnus

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On ferelden castle though right? Anyone can get a huge killstreak there. Got 44 with the alchemist the other day.

on perilous? thats impressive

 

or not. i dont know how good she is exactly



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on perilous? thats impressive

 

or not. i dont know how good she is exactly

Nah, threatening, but that's because I'm a scrub. I love the alchemist post nerf, poison and explode all the things.



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Nah, threatening, but that's because I'm a scrub. I love the alchemist post nerf, poison and explode all the things.

a lot of people like her. i reckon its cause of her love of mushrooms. 

 

but thats my point. I got that killstreak on perilous. hes even easier to play than pre-nerf aw.

add a good lute player and it becomes sleep mode. 



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How is it even no longer an option now? It merely got adjusted from autopilot to normality.



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a lot of people like her. i reckon its cause of her love of mushrooms. 

 

but thats my point. I got that killstreak on perilous. hes even easier to play than pre-nerf aw.

add a good lute player and it becomes sleep mode. 

The point is I don't have as many promotions as you. Also, I'd like to see a perilous archer solo from you, if you're going to claim he's as good as pre-nerf AW.



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The point is I don't have as many promotions as you. Also, I'd like to see a perilous archer solo from you, if you're going to claim he's as good as pre-nerf AW.

this game isnt aboot solo's

didnt think i needed to bring that up.

 

stand behind allies like an archer should