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#76
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I'd give it all to my DA:O crew based on the banter alone.



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 Morrigan over Solas -- both are very knowledgeable about magic, but Morrigan does not have boundaries against practicing them all like Solas does.

 

 

 

 

It doesn't make sense one is an elven god who lives for...  how much 10 millenia, more? 
he still posses his original body and his original soul, even Flemeth could not manage to do anything, and beside while Flemeth,Morrigan,Yavana are shamlen who can only be momentary hosts for Mythal,Solas is the true Fen harel, and Mythal who is his friend do not use her power against him,but for him,i believe that Solas of the end of DAI is even beyond the Archdemon's League and is the most powerful character of the franchise, even for his knowledge,.
He will start to walk the dark path and show the true power of the dread wolf,people have not seen of what Solas is truly capable of.

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Also, Morrigan does indeed have self-imposed boundaries.

 

She outright says, while she doesn't view the art itself being evil, she herself does not practice blood magic as a personal decision.

 

Good girl.



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1) Morrigan, but only when she's going against weakened Solas.
2) Vivienne, hands down. Wynne might have age and experience, but she, and her spirit, lean heavily towards healing and defense. Vivienne's KE abilities would make it a flop sided fight.
3) Cassandra. Seeker > Templar
4) Blackwall, but just barely. If Loghain was a bit younger I'd probably swing the fight the other way.
5) Sten(Arishok). I doubt he got that position with his excellent conversational skills.
6) Leliana. More experience and training.
7) Cole, or as Zevran would says, "Who-? ARGGGGHHHH!"

8) Varric. Berserker strength doesn't do much good after you've taken a bolt to the face.
9) This one is a toss up for me. Anders has Justice/Vengeance, and possibly additional GW training on top of what the Circle provided, but being raised in Tevinter probably gave Dorian a lot of knowledge on how best to combat a mage and spirits and demons.

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1) Morrigan, Cause Morrigan
2) Vivienne. Wynne is extremely boring, and Irritating when she isn't boring
3) Hmm tough one, I don't really like either of them that much tbh, But Alistair I guess.
4) Loghain, Because he's the greatest character in the series and he sacrificed his men to save the rest of his army, Blackwall didn't save his men because he's a dirty coward and then finally decided to save one of them after all the others had been executed already, which caused a bit of a political mess for the Inquisition, one that could have been much huger if his identity had been discovered sooner.
5) Sten, IB doesn't even hold a candle to Sten's awesomeness.
6) Sera, Because Leli Sue is a naive, insane writers pet.
7) Zevran, because he is rediculously awesome.
9) Don't really like either, Going with Oghren though since he doesn't have an annoying self important ego like Varric does.
10) Dorian, Because he hasn't started any wars or commited terror attacks and isn't completely insane and idiotic.
 



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I do not know why, but sometimes i have the impression that Morrigan of DAO is more powerful than Morrigan of DAI,she was constantly in danger during the blight, forced to fight and use her ability steadily, and she was also more power-hungry.
In DAI she is stuck between being Celine babysitter,Kieran's mother (optional),and with the garden at Skyhold, she came alongside the Inquisitor and was in danger just few times , the well is not even mandatory 
(i do not consider as valid the power-up that are not mandatory). 
Her knowledge may be improved, but being more powerful is also a matter of training against powerful foe,even for mages.
I have also the impression that even Alistair is more weak than he was in DAO(especially if he is King too much years spent drinking tea with the fereldan nobility,aside from that little adventure of the comics)
The only one that do not give to me this impression is Leliana, is obvious that she was constantly into the action, working for the Divine, she was even in some mission in DAII doing the dirty work for the Divine.


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The title says it all. Who'd you think would win if each companion had a one on one versus a comparable other. Some characters may be left out
1)Morrigan vs Solas ( Apostates with secrets)
2) Wynne vs Vivienne(Spent their lives in the Circle)
3) Cassandra vs Alistair (Sword and shield templar types)
4) Blackwall vs Loghain (Sword and shield champions seeking Redemption)
5)Iron Bull vs Sten (Quanari two-handed)
6)Leliana vs Sera ( lithe female archers)
7)Cole vs Zevran (Stealthy Duel Wielders)

Optional :
9)Varric vs Oghren ( Red head Dwarves adding Humour)
10) Dorian vs Anders(Wise Cracking Mages)

1) Hard to call, it depends on if Morrigan can turn into a High Dragon.
2)Vivienne(Knight Enchanter with tons of Barrier)
3) Cassandra (Seekers are super effective against Templars, and Cass' own Templar tress is superior to Alistair's) 
4) Blackwall (Blackwall cannot die. He is literally walking Guard) 
5)Iron Bull (Bull is just more powerful) 
6) Another hard to call one. Sera has Thousand Cuts, but nothing else on Leliana.
7)Cole (Spirit and a better assassin) 
8) 
9)Varric ( Bianca > Melee) 
10) Final hard to call fight. Both could reasonably take the other.


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The Warden's Party has more Wardens in it. ;)



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The title says it all. Who'd you think would win if each companion had a one on one versus a comparable other. Some characters may be left out
1)Solas. He's an elven god who probably holds vast powerful knowledge of ancient elven magic

2)Vivienne. Wynne is powerful but Viv is on another level. The knight enchanters are literally the best the circle has to offer. You don't get there from just being strong. You're the creme de la creme.

3) Cassandra. She's...a seeker with far better training and powers.

4) Blackwall. Loghain is old and black wall has proven to be a great warrior

5)Iron Bull. Remember, iron bull is supposedly a freak of nature among the qunari. He's huge with muscles and a brain

6)Leliana. She's far more calculating and technique'd than Sera

7)Cole. He's not truly human. Nuff said.

9)Oghren

10) Dorian vs Anders...it depends. Dorian wins with technique and knowledge but Anders with justice wins by sheer power.



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Aside from Morrigan I actually prefer DAI's party of companions.



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The Warden's Party has more Wardens in it. ;)

 

That'd actually be a pretty big negative in Inquisition, considering the villain's capabilities.


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This one is quite easy: one of them is Isabela's mentor. And he crossed out Hawke, Alistair, the Hero of Ferelden and Leliana from his todo list.
 
"Alright, alright, I get it, you want to Beg the Crow."
 
"w-wait uh I uh"
 
"You want the Kiss of Death. The Stabbing of the Queen. The Picking of the Lock. The Rapture of the Reaver. The Acorn Trick in the Tree Stump."
 
"well..."
 
"'Cause I sure as hell would like to ride the Bull."
 
Cut to Isabela running in slow motion, anime style, her hand reaching out, eyes half closed, tears flying, wailing "wait for meeeeee..."


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The title says it all. Who'd you think would win if each companion had a one on one versus a comparable other. Some characters may be left out
1)Morrigan vs Solas ( Apostates with secrets)
2) Wynne vs Vivienne(Spent their lives in the Circle)
3) Cassandra vs Alistair (Sword and shield templar types)
4) Blackwall vs Loghain (Sword and shield champions seeking Redemption)
5)Iron Bull vs Sten (Quanari two-handed)
6)Leliana vs Sera ( lithe female archers)
7)Cole vs Zevran (Stealthy Duel Wielders)

Optional :
9)Varric vs Oghren ( Red head Dwarves adding Humour)
10) Dorian vs Anders(Wise Cracking Mages)

1. Solas

2. Vivienne

3. Cassandra 

4. Loghain

5. Iron Bull

6. Eh

7. Cole

8 ______

9. Oghren

10. Dorian 


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1)Morrigan vs Solas ( Apostates with secrets) 
2) Wynne vs Vivienne(Spent their lives in the Circle)
3) Cassandra vs Alistair (Sword and shield templar types) 
4) Blackwall vs Loghain (Sword and shield champions seeking Redemption) 
5)Iron Bull vs Sten (Quanari two-handed) 
6)Leliana vs Sera ( lithe female archers) 
7)Cole vs Zevran (Stealthy Duel Wielders) 

Optional :
9)Varric vs Oghren ( Red head Dwarves adding Humour) 
10) Dorian vs Anders(Wise Cracking Mages) 

 

1.) Solas, easily. There is no possible way Morrigan could beat his centuries of knowledge

2.) Vivienne. Both are powerful, but when it comes down to it, Vivienne just wants it more

3.) Cassandra. As a Seeker, she could set the lyrium in Alistair's blood aflame. 

4.) Loghain. He wasn't Hero of River Dane for nothing

5.) Iron Bull. Sten is too blunt and obvious, Iron Bull could see his weaknesses

6.) Leliana. Bard training is infinitely more adaptable than what Sera has learned

7.) Zevran. Compassion is well and good, but Zebran knows what he is doing

9.) Varric - Range trumps many things

10.) Anders - Having the backing of a spirit helps immensely



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IMO a ton of people are seriously underestimating Wynne. Vivienne always struck me as more politically savvy than magically talented. And Wynne literally has a guardian angel. Combine that with the fact she was the best mage the Circle had seen in years and the fact she has twice the experience I'd put her on top of Vivienne.

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IMO a ton of people are seriously underestimating Wynne. Vivienne always struck me as more politically savvy than magically talented. And Wynne literally has a guardian angel. Combine that with the fact she was the best mage the Circle had seen in years and the fact she has twice the experience I'd put her on top of Vivienne.


The key fact that it boils down to, for me, is that Vivienne and Wynne have different strengths. Wynne has age and experience on her side, but she specializes more in healing and defense as a Spirit Healer. Vivienne, while being politically savvy, is also magically talented, and she was trained to be a Knight-Enchanter. It specializes in defense as well, but it heavily focuses on an active combat role and that would lend itself better in a 1-on-1 fight that a Spirit Healer would.

And while having a spirit on your side is a plus, that spirit is/was also the only thing keeping Wynne alive. She's gets a lot of additional spellpower when invoking its aide, but it also weakens her defense and has a chance of stunning her (whether or no you're counting Aneirin's Token mechanic into the equation) after it fades.

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Wynne more or less single-handedly held off a demonic invasion of circle "lobby" until the warden arrived.   I am positive people are underestimating her.  I mean,really, do you think whiny "oh why am I a mage, woe is me" Petra was a big help?

 

Also, Sten would clean Bull's clock.



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It doesn't make sense one is an elven god who--

 

Whose slumber just weakened him.

 

Also, Morrigan does indeed have self-imposed boundaries.

 

She outright says, while she doesn't view the art itself being evil, she herself does not practice blood magic as a personal decision.

 

Good girl.

 

The same Morrigan who says -- in Warden's Keep -- that any magic used as a means of survival is valid?

 

Yeah, no way she will turn to blood-magic if her life depends on it.



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In fairness, choosing not to practice blood magic as a personal decision doesn't preclude her leaving the option open should the need arise.



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1. Solas, though I wouldn't want to watch that fight.

2. Vivienne (Madame de Fer, anyone?)

3. Ouch. If we considered each in their prime, Alistair might come out on top. If you consider during the events of the Inquisition, Cassandra undoubtedly.

4. Oh, you mean the Loghain with his head still attached? Yeah, that one, I guess.

5. Sten, and here's why: I love Bull, I want to say the Bull, but Sten is a seasoned, regularly trained warrior with greater warrior's discipline. Bull is a savage fighter, but doesn't really keep his cool. If it came to scraps, to the tooth and claw scrambling of a fight, Sten would come out on top.

6. Leliana. Adruil doesn't scare me (wait...)

7. Cole. He has an uncanny ability to... elude. Our first encounter with Zevran was not nearly as encouraging.

 

8. Varric. A clear mind, sharp tongue, fast bow and even faster wit. He'd stay on top of a fight with our drunk nug-damning friend.

9. Are you asking DA:O Anders or DA2 Anders? Because I was thoroughly unimpressed with DA:O Anders. He was whiney, frightened and cynical and would fare badly in a fight with our Dorian. DA2 though.... that's another question entirely.



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9. Are you asking DA:O Anders or DA2 Anders? Because I was thoroughly unimpressed with DA:O Anders. He was whiney, frightened and cynical and would fare badly in a fight with our Dorian. DA2 though.... that's another question entirely.

 

Awakening Anders is also kind of a coward. He is very approving if you leave him behind at Vigil's Keep to go help the city of Amaranthine, and makes some kind of smartass comment when you're about to go off to fight. I don't often give Oghren credit, but at least he's a stalwart companion.



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1) Solas - If Morrigan Drinks from the Well of Mythal it would be a tie. But it would be close and leaning toward Solas.
2) Wynne > Vivienne
3) Cassandra > Alistair (Cassandra's a dragon hunter)
4) Loghaine > Black Wall
5) Iron Bull and Sten/Arishok Tie (Close)
6) Leliana > Sera
7) Cole > Zevran
9) Varric > Oghren
10) Dorian (Dorian is a prodigy. One of the best mage that Tevinter has ever produced. Anders kept running away from the Circle. He has Justice sure but Justice is Unpredictable and more or a liability in a fight)


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Simple, Warden & Co wins on each count. No contest here either.

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I'm bored, I'll bite. Although I believe the Warden can actually take out all of them in single combat with the exception of Solas lol.
 
1. Solas - No contest. Even after Morrigan takes the dragon form, she still couldn't hold out against Corphyneus' dragon. It will take a really long while for Morrigan to match up Flemeth's power (and even then, I'm not sure if the battle vs Flemeth in DAO is a clear indicator of her true ability). Plus, it was hinted that Solas will be much more powerful after he shakes off his long hangover err slumber... and what if he regains another orb?! BBQ.
 
2. Wynne - she doesn't even need any snowy wyvern potion to keep her magical bossoms. And with the Spirit of Faith, she pretty much can't really die?! First enchanter? Pffft... Wynne is an archmage, and could have easily been a First Enchanter if she wants to. Also... wisdom and experience.
 
3. Close contest. If it's DAO Alistair, then Cass would win hands down. The non-party companions are badly implemented in DAI (come on, look at Hawke's stats!), so I don't think that's a good indicator of Alistair's combat ability in DAI. Plus he beats Sten the Arishok in a single combat.
 
4. Another close contest. If it's pure combat ability, these two are on par. Loghain has more experience, but I believe his advantage lies more on wit and skills in leading his charge, while Blackwall wins out on pure strength... If it's a single duel between both, I think Blackwall has the slight edge.
 
5. Sten the Arishok. Just because Bull is awesome, doesn't mean Sten is crap... (and why does the majority not like Sten anyway). Iron Bull chucks too much potions and hurts himself too much before doing anything remotely useful, and all the while the non-specialised Sten will hack Bull away with his butterfly sword :P. That aside, I think everyone is underestimating Sten the Arishok... I also remember that the DA2 Arishok is a tough b****** to take down when dueling him as a warrior... And Bull is yeapppp... a warrior. Other than that, I doubt they voted Sten as the new Arishok because he could make the toughest choices, or because he is hornless, or because he became a veteran of the Fifth Blight. He had been part of the Antaam all his life, and it's all about combat in there as opposed to the Ben-Hassrath.
 
6. Leliana. Sera doesn't have the cunning and wit of Leliana even if they are both just as good with arrows.
 
7. Tough choice. Zevran is a skilled and experienced assassin, while Cole was said to be slashing his knives around without really knowing how to use them properly. Although he can just make Zevran forgets, and proceeds to beat the elf up >.> My vote goes to Cole.
 
8.???
 
9. Bianca. I doubt Oghren will get anywhere close to Varric with Bianca at his arms.
 
10. Anders if he is Vengeance Anders (as opposed to DAA Anders). Dorian may be gifted, but Anders' DA2 Vengeace ability wreaks real havoc... I doubt Dorian's undead army can overcome it.
 
Inquisition: 4
Origins: 4
Draw: 1
 
*I guess I am sooo "bias" -_-;;*
 
That bonus duel between Zev and Bull - Bull wins cos he makes the ground shakesss...